Accused of AI usage. Anyway to prove /disprove?

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Anonymous wrote:I work in a strategy field and use AI daily for work. I’ve found that if I ask ChatGPT to “rewrite for clarity and/or simplicity,” I get usable content. I will also add an example ofmy own writing style and will ask it to copy my style.

Here’s ChatGPT’s written for “clarity” example:


We should support using AI in schools to help with tasks like grammar and organizing essays. Instead of just focusing on those details, students should concentrate on the main ideas and themes in their writing. They should present their work and talk about it to show they understand the material. Instead of punishing students for using AI, we should encourage it. Soon, being good at using AI will be important for grading, based on how well students use it to improve their work.

Boring. There will be nothing worth reading because it’s all so stiff.

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Anonymous wrote:Junior’s teacher said dc “made unfortunate decision to use AI” for writing assignment.

DC insists did not use.

How can one determine the truth?

I copied & pasted the text into google but nothing came up.

AI text doesn't match existing content. It's respun.

Ask your kid to summarize and explain their essay to you, and write notes, from memory. Record the convo to show the teacher.

The child is a junior… the teacher should do this, not mom.

All the teachers, including so-called college professors, coming on here saying the solution is to demand the kids rewrite their papers or outlines from memory are completely out of touch. In a million years, I could never rewrite an outline or paper that I had spent days and days on from memory. Both my college kids have ADHD, they have to spend twice as long outputting excellent papers as regular students do. And when they're fininished, they can barely tell you what they wrote--certainly not from memory. It takes hous for them to fill in very detailed outlines, then turn them into well-written papers, which they write and re-write over and over. And yes, both of them will write a sentence, then write into Chat GPT or run it through Grammarly, with a prompt that says: fix this for me.

If your child writes an entire paper and then can't describe its contents, that is a real problem. No one is asking for a page by page summary, but you need to be able to defend your "own" ideas.

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All the teachers, including so-called college professors, coming on here saying the solution is to demand the kids rewrite their papers or outlines from memory are completely out of touch. In a million years, I could never rewrite an outline or paper that I had spent days and days on from memory. Both my college kids have ADHD, they have to spend twice as long outputting excellent papers as regular students do. And when they're fininished, they can barely tell you what they wrote--certainly not from memory. It takes hous for them to fill in very detailed outlines, then turn them into well-written papers, which they write and re-write over and over. And yes, both of them will write a sentence, then write into Chat GPT or run it through Grammarly, with a prompt that says: fix this for me.

If they have the outlines and notes then the vast majority of teachers will take that as adequate evidence. Although, in my classes, running your sentence through Chat GPT or Grammarly is cheating, so they should make sure that it's ok with their teachers/professors before relying on that.

And agree with the poster who noted that, if you really can't talk about your paper after you've finished it, something has gone quite wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Why Aren't school teaching students how to use ai for their essays and work?

Because we're trying to teach students how to *think.* It's much more useful for the learning process to have students struggle through their own thoughts and come up with their own prose, even if the output is less polished.

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Does anyone have their child get in trouble for cutting and pasting content? The teacher claimed my child was cheating based on google docs history of them cutting and pasting from the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have their child get in trouble for cutting and pasting content? The teacher claimed my child was cheating based on google docs history of them cutting and pasting from the internet.

To clarify, it was a website reference, but the teacher said it was not cited, so they got a failed grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have their child get in trouble for cutting and pasting content? The teacher claimed my child was cheating based on google docs history of them cutting and pasting from the internet.

Yes, they put it into their ai scanner and it came up positive but it wasn't as I was there when they wrote it. I did multiple other ai and all said it wasn't. Nightmare.

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Google free AI detector and run it through several. False positives are common, but if you consistently get results that say a large portion of his essay was likely written by AI, it probably was.