Accused of AI usage. Anyway to prove /disprove?

[Anonymous]

If they write in the Google version of word it will track each letter types and any copy and paste of text. Serves as a good audit trail.

[Anonymous]

Kids should create all essays/school work as a Google Doc, which will create a record of the work being done. They can then use that record to "show" the creation of the work, independant of AI.

[Anonymous]

College instructor: if I have a student who I suspect used AI, I will ask him to stay with me and outline their essay and try to recreate as much of it as they can by hand.

If they can remember none of it or defend the essay verbally, AI wrote it in every case

[Anonymous]

It is a serious accusation.

If the teacher can’t back it up with more than “I know it when I see it,” that’s a problem.

But the PP’s suggestion of having hard evidence of real work is a good one. The kids I know keep backup versions of drafts as they evolve. Or, as observed, there ought to be notes, search history, etc.

I think at the end of the day a lot depends on your knowledge of your own child. Some kids pretty much never lie; others embrace a more fluid version of truthfulness. Where is yours on that gradient?

I’d also suggest that your response be in tune with what’s at issue here. If the kid is getting a zero on a small project that won’t kill their grade, that’s one thing. If the teacher is escalating, talking about “permanent record” and all that, it is quite another.

I do think that if you believe your child, it’s your job to go to bat for them. But if they can’t even convince you, the material they give you to work with is unlikely to convince anybody else either.

[Anonymous]

OP here - just was not to thank you all for the input.

No a single bit of snark. So so nice!

Haven’t had chance yet to look into this - I posted my inquiry the moment I got the email from the teacher.

Thank you for giving food for thought!

[Anonymous]

Keep us posted!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I'm more inclined to believe his teacher. AI usage is rampant, whether because kids are lazy and think they can get away with it or because otherwise motivated kids get behind the eight ball and panic. At this point AI is so formulaic, it's pretty easy to recognize.

Completely agree. Especially if you are familiar with the author’s prior work.

Op, have you read the work in question? Do you think it aligns with your child’s writing style?

[Anonymous]

Pull up the doc history. Everything online has drafts saved so you can go back to a prior version.

Possibly a good chance that’s what the teacher did and saw this perfect piece was accomplished in one sitting which indicates a copy/paste from ai

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Junior’s teacher said dc “made unfortunate decision to use AI” for writing assignment.

DC insists did not use.

How can one determine the truth?

I copied & pasted the text into google but nothing came up.

Enter the text into ChatGPT and ask it if it wrote it.

[Anonymous]

We should advocate for the integration of AI in educational settings, as there is no merit in persisting with the monotonous tasks of managing grammar, structuring paragraphs, and so on. The focus should instead be on the substance and thematic choices made by the student in composing the paper. Students ought to present and discuss their papers to demonstrate comprehension and effectively communicate the material. The antiquated stance of penalizing students for using AI must be abandoned. Rather, the use of AI should be encouraged. It is inevitable that, in the near future, proficiency in AI utilization will become a criterion for assessment, based on the quality of input provided to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kid is a junior. Academic dishonesty will ruin their chances of high school. I would tell her to prove it or stop slandering my child.

I had quite a few college classmates expelled for plagiarism so it’s best he learns some real consequences now. BTW- those students didn’t get their tuition money back. A very costly lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We should advocate for the integration of AI in educational settings, as there is no merit in persisting with the monotonous tasks of managing grammar, structuring paragraphs, and so on. The focus should instead be on the substance and thematic choices made by the student in composing the paper. Students ought to present and discuss their papers to demonstrate comprehension and effectively communicate the material. The antiquated stance of penalizing students for using AI must be abandoned. Rather, the use of AI should be encouraged. It is inevitable that, in the near future, proficiency in AI utilization will become a criterion for assessment, based on the quality of input provided to it.

This was written by AI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We should advocate for the integration of AI in educational settings, as there is no merit in persisting with the monotonous tasks of managing grammar, structuring paragraphs, and so on. The focus should instead be on the substance and thematic choices made by the student in composing the paper. Students ought to present and discuss their papers to demonstrate comprehension and effectively communicate the material. The antiquated stance of penalizing students for using AI must be abandoned. Rather, the use of AI should be encouraged. It is inevitable that, in the near future, proficiency in AI utilization will become a criterion for assessment, based on the quality of input provided to it.

This was written by AI.

+1 a perfect example of how easy it is to spot.

[Anonymous]

My teen often prints out a copy of a draft and marks it up with scratch outs, arrows to rearrange etc. and later goes in and edits doc. would that look like cheating to someone looking at version history?

[Anonymous]

You need to read his essay. You know his writing style, correct?

My college kid has autism and anything that’s not technical writing always reads a little off, for lack of a better descriptor. When he was doing his essays, the year Chat GPT burst onto the scene, I worried people might think they were done with the help of AI. I am very familiar with his style, and all his non-technical work is like that, despite much improvement over the years.