New York Mag saying young women should marry older men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol at all the old-woman cope on this subject. It’s a no-brainer that older men and younger women are a great match—that’s why it’s been done that way since the beginning of time.

But of course, the 40-something millionaire is the only man deemed acceptable as a partner for the divorced, 40-something woman. So, of course, she shames younger women for dating older men. After all, left to his own devices, of course the 40-something millionaire prefers the hot and easygoing 20-something over the bitter and “empowered” divorcée.

I prefer men at any age to have basic reading comprehension, a skill you evidently lack.

The author was 23 and her husband ten years older when they married four years ago. No one is over 40.

PP here. I referred to the 40-somethings since that fits the DCUM demo best (especially when divorced and with kids -- gee, I wonder why men would prefer lots of sex with a young, hot woman over dealing with that kind of baggage).

But sure, I'll clarify: the thirty-something women will be just as threatened and will attempt to shame the 20-somethings as much as the forty-somethings do.

[Anonymous]

My mom and my sister both married somewhat older men and have never been financially self-supporting. The idea that this is some kind of undiscovered life hack that women should be focusing on is bizarre. That's actually just not widely appealing. I married someone my own age, in my 20s, and had time to have kids.

And this idea that your husband will be *more* involved with the kids if he's older -- I have never seen it play out that way. The reason you marry and have kids with the younger, financially-dependent woman is so you don't have to do that stuff. That is part of your value prop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol at all the old-woman cope on this subject. It’s a no-brainer that older men and younger women are a great match—that’s why it’s been done that way since the beginning of time.

But of course, the 40-something millionaire is the only man deemed acceptable as a partner for the divorced, 40-something woman. So, of course, she shames younger women for dating older men. After all, left to his own devices, of course the 40-something millionaire prefers the hot and easygoing 20-something over the bitter and “empowered” divorcée.

Except it’s not really normal, and the vast majority of men marry someone around their same age. Why? Because young women are largely not interested in dating older, especially when they have any other options. The only exception is when someone essentially goes the “mail order bride” route, which most men, successful or not, don’t want to do. The vast, vast majority of men, rich and otherwise, marry women their same age. https://twitter.com/datepsych/status/1773480865684713776

Well said and interesting how the PP who is so argumentative about older women being “triggered” doesn’t want to address these facts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol at all the old-woman cope on this subject. It’s a no-brainer that older men and younger women are a great match—that’s why it’s been done that way since the beginning of time.

But of course, the 40-something millionaire is the only man deemed acceptable as a partner for the divorced, 40-something woman. So, of course, she shames younger women for dating older men. After all, left to his own devices, of course the 40-something millionaire prefers the hot and easygoing 20-something over the bitter and “empowered” divorcée.

I prefer men at any age to have basic reading comprehension, a skill you evidently lack.

The author was 23 and her husband ten years older when they married four years ago. No one is over 40.

PP here. I referred to the 40-somethings since that fits the DCUM demo best (especially when divorced and with kids -- gee, I wonder why men would prefer lots of sex with a young, hot woman over dealing with that kind of baggage).

But sure, I'll clarify: the thirty-something women will be just as threatened and will attempt to shame the 20-somethings as much as the forty-somethings do.

You’re ignoring a much larger, much more relevant group of women: twenty somethings who are grossed out by older men hitting on them.

[Anonymous]

American women can be incredibly sheltered and naive. Women around the world have been marrying older men with wealth and status. In fact it is the norm. I am Pakistani American and in my culture, women ONLY marry men if they are either older and have established careers and financially successful. In modern times, women do marry men 1-2 years closer to their age as long as they are financially successful. But historically, there is always an 8-10 year age gap between brides and grooms because it is well understood that men take longer to mature and that a woman's youth and fertility is fleeting. A beautiful 25 year old marrying an established and successful 35 year old man is the golden ticket to marriage success.

The man will always be more established and provide stability and financial security to his wife and children. The woman will always be younger and more fertile, beauty being naturally appreciated by the men.

In America this trend of marrying guys your own age and not thinking about money has created a social disaster. Women are now expected to work AND raise babies while the men play video games all day long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:American women can be incredibly sheltered and naive. Women around the world have been marrying older men with wealth and status. In fact it is the norm. I am Pakistani American and in my culture, women ONLY marry men if they are either older and have established careers and financially successful. In modern times, women do marry men 1-2 years closer to their age as long as they are financially successful. But historically, there is always an 8-10 year age gap between brides and grooms because it is well understood that men take longer to mature and that a woman's youth and fertility is fleeting. A beautiful 25 year old marrying an established and successful 35 year old man is the golden ticket to marriage success.

The man will always be more established and provide stability and financial security to his wife and children. The woman will always be younger and more fertile, beauty being naturally appreciated by the men.

In America this trend of marrying guys your own age and not thinking about money has created a social disaster. Women are now expected to work AND raise babies while the men play video games all day long.

JFC, everyone is aware that in cultures where women have low status and limited ability to earn money of their own, they marry older. At the really extreme end, we have child brides getting sold by their fathers. That doesn't mean it's aspirational. And I actually like working, and my husband works as well. But look, you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:American women can be incredibly sheltered and naive. Women around the world have been marrying older men with wealth and status. In fact it is the norm. I am Pakistani American and in my culture, women ONLY marry men if they are either older and have established careers and financially successful. In modern times, women do marry men 1-2 years closer to their age as long as they are financially successful. But historically, there is always an 8-10 year age gap between brides and grooms because it is well understood that men take longer to mature and that a woman's youth and fertility is fleeting. A beautiful 25 year old marrying an established and successful 35 year old man is the golden ticket to marriage success.

The man will always be more established and provide stability and financial security to his wife and children. The woman will always be younger and more fertile, beauty being naturally appreciated by the men.

In America this trend of marrying guys your own age and not thinking about money has created a social disaster. Women are now expected to work AND raise babies while the men play video games all day long.

Yeah, because Pakistan is a model of treating women well and women just wish they could be treated the same way. Please. Western women are well aware of the compromises and hardships women have to accept when they live in oppressive societies with very few rights. That is not something Pakistani women are freely choosing from a plethora of options for their life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:American women can be incredibly sheltered and naive. Women around the world have been marrying older men with wealth and status. In fact it is the norm. I am Pakistani American and in my culture, women ONLY marry men if they are either older and have established careers and financially successful. In modern times, women do marry men 1-2 years closer to their age as long as they are financially successful. But historically, there is always an 8-10 year age gap between brides and grooms because it is well understood that men take longer to mature and that a woman's youth and fertility is fleeting. A beautiful 25 year old marrying an established and successful 35 year old man is the golden ticket to marriage success.

The man will always be more established and provide stability and financial security to his wife and children. The woman will always be younger and more fertile, beauty being naturally appreciated by the men.

In America this trend of marrying guys your own age and not thinking about money has created a social disaster. Women are now expected to work AND raise babies while the men play video games all day long.

How ethnocentric of you to think that your culture is superior, particularly when you immigrated here. I didn’t move to Pakistan and I am not interested in adopting your culture in the slightest.

Personally, I prefer the freedoms of being a “sheltered and naive” American woman to being a Pakistani woman forced into a gilded cage by a misogynistic society that doesn’t value me as a person.

[Anonymous]

This is depressing. It reads like it was written by a middle school girl. Whomever said in the comments she found a parent figure who also fcuks her was spot on. That’s what her stupid Lolita reference is all about.

[Anonymous]

I thought this was interesting. My only daughter is 15 now, and I can’t really imagine giving her this advice in another few years.
I really think the author gave up a lot more than she sees or than she is willing to admit.
Those years in your twenties before you get married, the “Friends” years, are difficult, but they are a lot of fun. Creating a home and a life with your husband is a great way to start off your marriage, rather than just entering into the other person’s pre-built life. And I get her complaints about women doing all of the work, but it’s an ego boost to have a man think you are amazing because you put a scented candle and a tablecloth in his apartment, bought a colander to drain the pasta, and turned on the radio.

It also seems like she is missing out on having girlfriends. She mentions these friends that she talks to, but I imagine these are more likely strangers posting on the internet or people she sees in a large group rather than close friends. It’s odd that she went to the library alone all of the time, and even more unusual that she went to parties, on her college campus, at 19-20 years old, without another girl.

It’s like she entered middle age, with all of the pluses and minuses, at the age of 23.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American women can be incredibly sheltered and naive. Women around the world have been marrying older men with wealth and status. In fact it is the norm. I am Pakistani American and in my culture, women ONLY marry men if they are either older and have established careers and financially successful. In modern times, women do marry men 1-2 years closer to their age as long as they are financially successful. But historically, there is always an 8-10 year age gap between brides and grooms because it is well understood that men take longer to mature and that a woman's youth and fertility is fleeting. A beautiful 25 year old marrying an established and successful 35 year old man is the golden ticket to marriage success.

The man will always be more established and provide stability and financial security to his wife and children. The woman will always be younger and more fertile, beauty being naturally appreciated by the men.

In America this trend of marrying guys your own age and not thinking about money has created a social disaster. Women are now expected to work AND raise babies while the men play video games all day long.

How ethnocentric of you to think that your culture is superior, particularly when you immigrated here. I didn’t move to Pakistan and I am not interested in adopting your culture in the slightest.

Personally, I prefer the freedoms of being a “sheltered and naive” American woman to being a Pakistani woman forced into a gilded cage by a misogynistic society that doesn’t value me as a person.

DCUM true colors on full display here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was interesting. My only daughter is 15 now, and I can’t really imagine giving her this advice in another few years.
I really think the author gave up a lot more than she sees or than she is willing to admit.
Those years in your twenties before you get married, the “Friends” years, are difficult, but they are a lot of fun. Creating a home and a life with your husband is a great way to start off your marriage, rather than just entering into the other person’s pre-built life. And I get her complaints about women doing all of the work, but it’s an ego boost to have a man think you are amazing because you put a scented candle and a tablecloth in his apartment, bought a colander to drain the pasta, and turned on the radio.

It also seems like she is missing out on having girlfriends. She mentions these friends that she talks to, but I imagine these are more likely strangers posting on the internet or people she sees in a large group rather than close friends. It’s odd that she went to the library alone all of the time, and even more unusual that she went to parties, on her college campus, at 19-20 years old, without another girl.

It’s like she entered middle age, with all of the pluses and minuses, at the age of 23.

Yeah. Let’s be honest, a lot of these women go after older men because they themselves have “low mate value”, to put it in technical terms. They’re either socially maladjusted or not super attractive, and the only thing they have to offer is their youth. This means nothing to their fellow 20 something’s, and they’re competing against the most attractive/socially skilled women in their age group for the desirable men. MUCH easier and more realistic to go after the older demographic who will be thrilled that any 20 something has looked their way, and hardly even notice a flaw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was interesting. My only daughter is 15 now, and I can’t really imagine giving her this advice in another few years.
I really think the author gave up a lot more than she sees or than she is willing to admit.
Those years in your twenties before you get married, the “Friends” years, are difficult, but they are a lot of fun. Creating a home and a life with your husband is a great way to start off your marriage, rather than just entering into the other person’s pre-built life. And I get her complaints about women doing all of the work, but it’s an ego boost to have a man think you are amazing because you put a scented candle and a tablecloth in his apartment, bought a colander to drain the pasta, and turned on the radio.

It also seems like she is missing out on having girlfriends. She mentions these friends that she talks to, but I imagine these are more likely strangers posting on the internet or people she sees in a large group rather than close friends. It’s odd that she went to the library alone all of the time, and even more unusual that she went to parties, on her college campus, at 19-20 years old, without another girl.

It’s like she entered middle age, with all of the pluses and minuses, at the age of 23.

Yeah. Let’s be honest, a lot of these women go after older men because they themselves have “low mate value”, to put it in technical terms. They’re either socially maladjusted or not super attractive, and the only thing they have to offer is their youth. This means nothing to their fellow 20 something’s, and they’re competing against the most attractive/socially skilled women in their age group for the desirable men. MUCH easier and more realistic to go after the older demographic who will be thrilled that any 20 something has looked their way, and hardly even notice a flaw.

Bingo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American women can be incredibly sheltered and naive. Women around the world have been marrying older men with wealth and status. In fact it is the norm. I am Pakistani American and in my culture, women ONLY marry men if they are either older and have established careers and financially successful. In modern times, women do marry men 1-2 years closer to their age as long as they are financially successful. But historically, there is always an 8-10 year age gap between brides and grooms because it is well understood that men take longer to mature and that a woman's youth and fertility is fleeting. A beautiful 25 year old marrying an established and successful 35 year old man is the golden ticket to marriage success.

The man will always be more established and provide stability and financial security to his wife and children. The woman will always be younger and more fertile, beauty being naturally appreciated by the men.

In America this trend of marrying guys your own age and not thinking about money has created a social disaster. Women are now expected to work AND raise babies while the men play video games all day long.

How ethnocentric of you to think that your culture is superior, particularly when you immigrated here. I didn’t move to Pakistan and I am not interested in adopting your culture in the slightest.

Personally, I prefer the freedoms of being a “sheltered and naive” American woman to being a Pakistani woman forced into a gilded cage by a misogynistic society that doesn’t value me as a person.

DCUM true colors on full display here

Yes, I’m proudly American and don’t take too kindly to immigrants telling me that I must adopt the cultural traits of the sh-t holes they left. Maybe they should try assimilating into the culture they chose to move to instead.

America love it or leave it.

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

I mean it’s Pakistan, not exactly a haven for women.