White Lotus

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I agree about the teenage girls. In what world would a teen girl keep it a secret from her BFF that she’s hooking up with an older dude on vacation. And why would it make her BFF upset. Unless the one friend has a crush on the other?? Also, now that I think about it aren’t these girls probably 16? And she’s hooking up with an adult employee. I guess he could be a teen and this is a summer job but he didn’t look like it.

I had also wondered why the family wasn’t in an bigger suite. doesn’t make sense. And if it is just a convenient plot line to cram them all together, that seems like sloppy writing.

I do love this series though!

Because there is a huge class divide between the girls. The friend isn’t as wealthy/privileged. The wealthy teen kind of views her friend as her pet that she brought on vacation. The friend goes along, but there are hints that she resents her. The wealthy teen is controlling. The friend is also hooking up with someone who isn’t at al wealthy (a waiter or something), which probably factors into her fear of being judged. But it’s also an escape for her from the over-the-top tone deafness of the wealthy family.

I grew up blue collar with some friends who were children of white collar. They weren’t over the top wealthy at all, but I was that friend. And I remember how I felt at times, not to mention their complete lack of awareness of how other people lived. But they tend to treat people as pets. That part of the show is brilliant. I actually think the newlywed story line is too blatant. It would be better if it were more subtle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm really loving this show. Just watched the 3rd episode.

- I couldn't quite figure out why Steve Zahn was cast in this role the first couple episodes. But when his character went off the deep end in response to the news about his dad, I got it. Really enjoying where that character is going after feeling ambivalent at first.

- I really love how layered so many of the interactions are. You'll hear characters describe them several different ways and they are all true. Like when Connie Britton's character had that conversation with the newlywed bride, and the girl winds up devastated because of the confrontation, but later Connie mentions it to her family that she found it really gratifying to talk to someone who admired her. The confrontation aspect was nothing to her. Stuff like that is so true to life and the show demonstrates it really deftly.

- The boat scene tonight was so great and one of the first truly laugh out loud funny bits on the show. My DH and I were talking about how most happy couples would be upset about the situation at first, but then because it was so over the top ridiculous, it would instantly become one of your favorite stories to tell as a couple. "Remember on our honeymoon when we tried to have that romantic dinner at sea and instead that insane rich lady made us attend her mom's funeral? That was hilarious!" We would tell this story at dinner parties for decades because it's amazing. But the fact that this couple is just uncomfortable and awkward the whole time, and the guy so angry it's all he can think about, demonstrates what a bad match they are and in particular how self-involved and high strung the guy is.

- Olivia is so gratingly annoying. Paula doesn't annoy me as much -- I think there is more going on with her and her politics/smugness is grounded in something more real than Olivia's desire to stick it to her rich, successful mom.

- I am confused, though, as to why that family is sharing a one bedroom suite (albeit a huge, gorgeous one) necessitating the girls sharing the pullout and the son sleeping on a cot. It just seems like they could afford, at a minimum, a 2 bedroom suite. Or one suite and one regular room. I'm trying to figure out if there's going to be some explanation for it (like the mom is cheap and that's part of deal, or they did it on purpose for some other reason), or if it was just a convenient plot device to force a bunch of conflict in the family. I find it very distracting, though.

We just talked about that last night. Especially because the mom expected to do work on the trip.

[Anonymous]

I must have missed the part where the friend wasn’t as rich as the other. I didn’t realize that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, I agree about the teenage girls. In what world would a teen girl keep it a secret from her BFF that she’s hooking up with an older dude on vacation. And why would it make her BFF upset. Unless the one friend has a crush on the other?? Also, now that I think about it aren’t these girls probably 16? And she’s hooking up with an adult employee. I guess he could be a teen and this is a summer job but he didn’t look like it.

I had also wondered why the family wasn’t in an bigger suite. doesn’t make sense. And if it is just a convenient plot line to cram them all together, that seems like sloppy writing.

I do love this series though!

They’re sophomores in college. They said so in the first episode.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I agree about the teenage girls. In what world would a teen girl keep it a secret from her BFF that she’s hooking up with an older dude on vacation. And why would it make her BFF upset. Unless the one friend has a crush on the other?? Also, now that I think about it aren’t these girls probably 16? And she’s hooking up with an adult employee. I guess he could be a teen and this is a summer job but he didn’t look like it.

I had also wondered why the family wasn’t in an bigger suite. doesn’t make sense. And if it is just a convenient plot line to cram them all together, that seems like sloppy writing.

I do love this series though!

They’re sophomores in college. They said so in the first episode.

Really? I could have sworn when they were talking to the honeymoon woman (she was in the pool and they were in lounge chairs) she asked them if they were in high school and they said yes and then asked what grade and they said juniors. I have no idea why I remember this completely wrong scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I agree about the teenage girls. In what world would a teen girl keep it a secret from her BFF that she’s hooking up with an older dude on vacation. And why would it make her BFF upset. Unless the one friend has a crush on the other?? Also, now that I think about it aren’t these girls probably 16? And she’s hooking up with an adult employee. I guess he could be a teen and this is a summer job but he didn’t look like it.

I had also wondered why the family wasn’t in an bigger suite. doesn’t make sense. And if it is just a convenient plot line to cram them all together, that seems like sloppy writing.

I do love this series though!

Because there is a huge class divide between the girls. The friend isn’t as wealthy/privileged. The wealthy teen kind of views her friend as her pet that she brought on vacation. The friend goes along, but there are hints that she resents her. The wealthy teen is controlling. The friend is also hooking up with someone who isn’t at al wealthy (a waiter or something), which probably factors into her fear of being judged. But it’s also an escape for her from the over-the-top tone deafness of the wealthy family.

I grew up blue collar with some friends who were children of white collar. They weren’t over the top wealthy at all, but I was that friend. And I remember how I felt at times, not to mention their complete lack of awareness of how other people lived. But they tend to treat people as pets. That part of the show is brilliant. I actually think the newlywed story line is too blatant. It would be better if it were more subtle.

I think also the daughter is in love with her friend, and the friend is trying to hold onto the benefits that brings while also going and having fun.

I love this show so much. Jennifer Coolidge is a national treasure. Armand - I am enjoying the heck out of watching him. I think Rachel is up to something devious and I can't wait to see her square off with Molly Shannon. Steve Zahn being the weepy creepy guy at the bar! It's all so perfect.

[Anonymous]

This article sheds some light on the friendship of the girls.

***If you've watched episodes 1-3 there are no spoilers here.

https://countryhighlights.com/health/olivia-is-the-most-quietly-terrifying-part-of-hbos-the-white-lotus/

[Anonymous]

Needs more scenes of Alexandra Daddario in lingerie

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I agree about the teenage girls. In what world would a teen girl keep it a secret from her BFF that she’s hooking up with an older dude on vacation. And why would it make her BFF upset. Unless the one friend has a crush on the other?? Also, now that I think about it aren’t these girls probably 16? And she’s hooking up with an adult employee. I guess he could be a teen and this is a summer job but he didn’t look like it.

I had also wondered why the family wasn’t in an bigger suite. doesn’t make sense. And if it is just a convenient plot line to cram them all together, that seems like sloppy writing.

I do love this series though!

They’re sophomores in college. They said so in the first episode.

Really? I could have sworn when they were talking to the honeymoon woman (she was in the pool and they were in lounge chairs) she asked them if they were in high school and they said yes and then asked what grade and they said juniors. I have no idea why I remember this completely wrong scenario.

I recall both which I feel established the girls as liars. They also told the mom that they were doing witchcraft when they were smoking weed and lie that they didn’t make the brother leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP, I agree about the teenage girls. In what world would a teen girl keep it a secret from her BFF that she’s hooking up with an older dude on vacation. And why would it make her BFF upset. Unless the one friend has a crush on the other?? Also, now that I think about it aren’t these girls probably 16? And she’s hooking up with an adult employee. I guess he could be a teen and this is a summer job but he didn’t look like it.

I had also wondered why the family wasn’t in an bigger suite. doesn’t make sense. And if it is just a convenient plot line to cram them all together, that seems like sloppy writing.

I do love this series though!

Because there is a huge class divide between the girls. The friend isn’t as wealthy/privileged. The wealthy teen kind of views her friend as her pet that she brought on vacation. The friend goes along, but there are hints that she resents her. The wealthy teen is controlling. The friend is also hooking up with someone who isn’t at al wealthy (a waiter or something), which probably factors into her fear of being judged. But it’s also an escape for her from the over-the-top tone deafness of the wealthy family.

I grew up blue collar with some friends who were children of white collar. They weren’t over the top wealthy at all, but I was that friend. And I remember how I felt at times, not to mention their complete lack of awareness of how other people lived. But they tend to treat people as pets. That part of the show is brilliant. I actually think the newlywed story line is too blatant. It would be better if it were more subtle.

NP. Ohhh…I assumed they were both wealthy, and the white girl was a lesbian and she was upset her friend hooked up with the waiter because she had romantic feelings for her. 😆

[Anonymous]

The third episode was hilarious. I chuckled through it all- the boy furious about his screens being ruined, the dad getting hammered and then slamming his fists against his chest in order to seduce his wife (??!), the scene aboard the chartered sunset boat…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Needs more scenes of Alexandra Daddario in lingerie

Really? I hate that I'm about to body shame but in her bikini scenes she looks like a 12 year old child. I know, I'm going to Hell.

[Anonymous]

Love this show.

Any theories on who is dead and who is responsible?

I think the hotel manager is going to lose it and kill someone. The honeymooning wife is going to leave her husband and that's why he is so mad at the airport in episode 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Needs more scenes of Alexandra Daddario in lingerie

Really? I hate that I'm about to body shame but in her bikini scenes she looks like a 12 year old child. I know, I'm going to Hell.

If this is what you think a 12 year old looks like, I suggest that you reset your meter:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love this show.

Any theories on who is dead and who is responsible?

I think the hotel manager is going to lose it and kill someone. The honeymooning wife is going to leave her husband and that's why he is so mad at the airport in episode 1.

From the opening scene I just assumed that it was the honeymooning wife. But now you have me wondering.... You're right, maybe it's not her.