I think you might consider the categories in which Harvard is currently rated last. And not just among the ivies. |
Parents of kids who can't get into Ivies. Ivy is Ivy. Any IVY before non-Ivy other than MIT, Stanford, and Cal Tech. |
No that is laughable. Lots of kids turn down ivies for other schools. What planet are you on? |
4% acceptance rate, nah |
It varies from person to person and is subjective. What a ridiculous question, seriously. |
+1000 |
OMG. Y'all with this my-kid-is-at-an-ivy stuff know your kid actually goes to George Mason. Or even NOVA, lol. |
Depends entirely on the major. Industries don't think the way parents and kids do about status. I wish more people really believed/understood that. For example, if you're talking about most areas of engineering, Georgia Tech and Purdue are way better than the Ivies. Chemical Engineering? University of Delaware is #2 in the country. If I had just answered that I think UD is better than low Ivies, people here would snicker and look down on me I fear. But the truth is it is way way better than the Ivies in this.
So I just find this exercise a little artificial. The way people are thinking about universities isn't really how it works. It's just that we have such a hard time walking away from the concept of prestige. |
LOL. Pretty sure Duke straight up wins the overall cross-admit battle with half the ivies by a sizable margin, meaning kids (and their parents) are preferring Duke over ivies when given the choice. Chicago also does decently against at least the lower ivies. You sound like someone who went to Cornell haha |
x10000 THANK YOU. |
I don't know about "better than" but there's obviously a lot of college which are "as good as" - and I'd include Georgetown in that list, partly because they were offered a spot on the Ivy League and turned it down. |
OP I think your list was spot on. Stanford, MIt, Duke, Caltech. There can be strong arguments for Northwestern, Chicago, Hopkins, maybe Berkeley in-state |
And still not as well-regarded as other engineering schools. |
Most kids who are given the choice choose UCLA, Cal, and Michigan over Cornell. |
What form of imbecile uses a term like “lower ivy”? Utterly idiotic ratings clown |