What schools are better than the lower Ivies?

[Anonymous]

All the Ivies except HYP are lower Ivies. Each of the schools you put in your lower Ivy grouping are better than the other non-HYPs in various ways:

Brown is considered impossibly hard to get into and is the first-choice school of countless high-stats kids.

Dartmouth is the SLAC antidote to the large size of the other schools: getting into Dartmouth is like getting into Amherst or Williams — like a hole in one.

Cornell is ideal for someone who wants Greek life, unlike any other Ivy, and has amazing engineering and other unique options like the hotel school, not to mention Ithaca is gorges.

I’m sorry, but Penn and Columbia just aren’t that compelling vs. Brown-Dartmouth-Cornell once you start considering these factors and assuming that living in an intensely urban environment is not specifically an objective.

[Anonymous]

Depending on the field, various other T25 schools can dominate (even easily) the lower and even the upper Ivies. Engg is one obvious area. But so are many other STEM and non-STEM fields. Some of this is more relevant at the grad school level. But it can also be relevant for undergrads.

State schools that can dominate lower Ivies: Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, UVA and possibly others.

Private: Duke, JHU, Northwestern and possibly others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the SLACs.

Is that a joke? I hope so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from Stanford, MIT, Duke, Caltech, which schools do you consider better than the "lower ivies" (Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell)?

How is T10 (Brown) "lower?" Also, what a weird question overall. It's a sports conference.

This year is the first year Brown has been T10, it’s typically T15. Given its lack of academic strength I suspect it’ll drop back out of the T10 next year.

You have got to be kidding me. Brown lacks academic strength?

It really does when you start looking at the best departments for subjects you want to study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the SLACs.

Is that a joke? I hope so.

I don't favor SLACs, but their pedagogical strengths cannot be beat.

[Anonymous]

I would consider Yale a lower ivy these days.

The only elite ivies are Princeton, Harvard, and Penn. The rest blend in with the T30 which is fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a disease, this way of thinking

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the SLACs.

Is that a joke? I hope so.

If we are talking about undergraduate education, then nearly all of the LACs are better than the Ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the SLACs.

Is that a joke? I hope so.

If we are talking about undergraduate education, then nearly all of the LACs are better than the Ivies.

Most of us consider them more or less irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Worthless troll post

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the Ivies except HYP are lower Ivies. Each of the schools you put in your lower Ivy grouping are better than the other non-HYPs in various ways:

Brown is considered impossibly hard to get into and is the first-choice school of countless high-stats kids.

Dartmouth is the SLAC antidote to the large size of the other schools: getting into Dartmouth is like getting into Amherst or Williams — like a hole in one.

Cornell is ideal for someone who wants Greek life, unlike any other Ivy, and has amazing engineering and other unique options like the hotel school, not to mention Ithaca is gorges.

I’m sorry, but Penn and Columbia just aren’t that compelling vs. Brown-Dartmouth-Cornell once you start considering these factors and assuming that living in an intensely urban environment is not specifically an objective.

This is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a disease, this way of thinking

+1

It really is a disease. Toxic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Better for whom? By what metric?

That so many people who claim to value an elite education would (again and again) fail to ask this question before jumping straight into ordinal rankings seems a terrible indictment of an elite education.

[Anonymous]

Chicago, Berkeley, Northwestern, JHU, Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why? There is no one rating of all schools

+1 Can't answer unless you know the major (e.g. Cornell is the top Ivy for Engineering)

Yes Cornell is even #12 for CS last I saw right below UMDCP.