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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the terminated/resigned FCV coaches bringing all the United North teams over? There’s the growth.

They are certainly trying to convince families/players to follow them over to Revolution. But that's complicated by the fact that several of the FCV United teams have families/players who left Revolution previously and don't want to go back. That leads to conversations among parents about why they feel that way. Some of those reasons will understandably give FCV parents pause. So then they're torn between FCV coaches telling them "it's going to be just like it was before when we were FCV but better!" and parents who left Revolution telling them "I'd have to be crazy to take my son/daughter back there again". Quite the dilemma and not a decision that any parent is going to enjoy making.

VRSC family here. Older child's team disbanded since its a new club and the players clearly weren't happy at their previous clubs and weren't super competitive (they played soccer for fun and there was a HUGE variety in skills on that team - but overall a great group of kids). Its true that the talent, at least on the older girls side, isn't quite there yet. BUT, the boys side is pretty strong (and growing) and its too soon to tell how they are developing the younger kids out of academy into travel soccer. I would give it at least another two years before I made the claim that its a weak or strong club. Especially with all of the movement with local clubs happening these days.

[Anonymous]

Good insight so far. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren’t the terminated/resigned FCV coaches bringing all the United North teams over? There’s the growth.

They are certainly trying to convince families/players to follow them over to Revolution. But that's complicated by the fact that several of the FCV United teams have families/players who left Revolution previously and don't want to go back. That leads to conversations among parents about why they feel that way. Some of those reasons will understandably give FCV parents pause. So then they're torn between FCV coaches telling them "it's going to be just like it was before when we were FCV but better!" and parents who left Revolution telling them "I'd have to be crazy to take my son/daughter back there again". Quite the dilemma and not a decision that any parent is going to enjoy making.

VRSC family here. Older child's team disbanded since its a new club and the players clearly weren't happy at their previous clubs and weren't super competitive (they played soccer for fun and there was a HUGE variety in skills on that team - but overall a great group of kids). Its true that the talent, at least on the older girls side, isn't quite there yet. BUT, the boys side is pretty strong (and growing) and its too soon to tell how they are developing the younger kids out of academy into travel soccer. I would give it at least another two years before I made the claim that its a weak or strong club. Especially with all of the movement with local clubs happening these days.

My son plays there and the coaching and his team is really good. We came from a mega club and the atmosphere is MUCH nicer than what we came from. I think a lot of people who come to VRSC are in similar boats. The coaching is way better and they do different drills for training sessions. The TD and some of the older coaching staff will come and watch the games sometimes, so you feel like they are actually interested in the teams performance. The facility is super nice too. They use the bottom of the stadium's classrooms for things like game tape reviews which never happened once at our old club.

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The 2009 boys teams are nice. The other ages for both boys and girls are ok at best. If you wanna take a risk banking on their younger teams coming through their bambinos and academy program you can try.

[Anonymous]

It depends. As a retired soccer parent and avid believer that history repeats itself; I can’t see VRSC having that sportsplex much longer for my sole belief alone. Any one on this thread old enough to remember when FC Virginia and the Evergreen Hammers called that sportsplex their home? Then Barca Academy came and called it home their home. Now VRSC calls it home.

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Anonymous wrote:It depends. As a retired soccer parent and avid believer that history repeats itself; I can’t see VRSC having that sportsplex much longer for my sole belief alone. Any one on this thread old enough to remember when FC Virginia and the Evergreen Hammers called that sportsplex their home? Then Barca Academy came and called it home their home. Now VRSC calls it home.

The difference is VRSC owns it now.

[Anonymous]

OP here. More insight is still wanted please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends. As a retired soccer parent and avid believer that history repeats itself; I can’t see VRSC having that sportsplex much longer for my sole belief alone. Any one on this thread old enough to remember when FC Virginia and the Evergreen Hammers called that sportsplex their home? Then Barca Academy came and called it home their home. Now VRSC calls it home.

The difference is VRSC owns it now.

They have to generate enough revenue to service the debt. The also now have a bloated coaching staff courtesy of FCV and the expense of their fake academy.

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As someone stated earlier, the teams are made up of kids that couldn't make top teams at other local clubs so they join VRSC as a top team player. It is not known to be made up of top talent, but they got deep pockets. They booted Barca and took their place as a club with nice stuff, but no talent.

[Anonymous]

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They have to generate enough revenue to service the debt. The also now have a bloated coaching staff courtesy of FCV and the expense of their fake academy.

They are experiencing rapid growth and have been since they started in 2018. It's naive to think they would lose the Sportsplex. Right now around 25 boys teams, 12 girls. Now that they have GA and a bunch of the younger FCV teams have already moved over for the spring the girls side will likely be 30+ teams in the fall.

DD has been there for 3 years and loves it. Strong family feel on but varies by team. NE gets bashed a lot on this forum but is great to interact with, kids love him. I'm sure the culture will change a lot on the girls side with GA coming in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They have to generate enough revenue to service the debt. The also now have a bloated coaching staff courtesy of FCV and the expense of their fake academy.

They are experiencing rapid growth and have been since they started in 2018. It's naive to think they would lose the Sportsplex. Right now around 25 boys teams, 12 girls. Now that they have GA and a bunch of the younger FCV teams have already moved over for the spring the girls side will likely be 30+ teams in the fall.

DD has been there for 3 years and loves it. Strong family feel on but varies by team. NE gets bashed a lot on this forum but is great to interact with, kids love him. I'm sure the culture will change a lot on the girls side with GA coming in.

Kids will leave rather than accept the third or fourth team. Adding GA probably means losing the current bottom team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone stated earlier, the teams are made up of kids that couldn't make top teams at other local clubs so they join VRSC as a top team player. It is not known to be made up of top talent, but they got deep pockets. They booted Barca and took their place as a club with nice stuff, but no talent.

I don’t know much about VRSC but this makes a lot of sense. My son was on a second team last year that struggled to win against other clubs’ second teams, but they still managed to beat VRSC’s second team. This was at a younger age group.

[Anonymous]

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Kids will leave rather than accept the third or fourth team. Adding GA probably means losing the current bottom team.

PP here. It is a unique situation where you're adding a new first team that will be full of new players. Maybe 1-2, but mostly 0 current VRSC players at the older ages could make a GA team. The alternative is to leave a bottom VRSC team full of friends to go play on a new club's bottom team. Having been there for a few years while the club has been small, there really isn't a 1st vs 2nd team culture there. But that will change in the coming years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Kids will leave rather than accept the third or fourth team. Adding GA probably means losing the current bottom team.

PP here. It is a unique situation where you're adding a new first team that will be full of new players. Maybe 1-2, but mostly 0 current VRSC players at the older ages could make a GA team. The alternative is to leave a bottom VRSC team full of friends to go play on a new club's bottom team. Having been there for a few years while the club has been small, there really isn't a 1st vs 2nd team culture there. But that will change in the coming years.

GA will attract kids aiming for GA. They will leave if they don't make top teams. Kids on current top teams seeing the focus shift to the new top teams will leave if they can do better elsewhere. This happens everywhere when a TD gets hired and brings a staff and players with them

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The current girls that are on the 'top team' (and in most cases, they only have one team) won't hold a candle to incoming GA kids. It's going to get really interesting really fast.

I'm interested to see how the younger girls teams handle new teams magically forming beneath them from the FCV exodus. The talent on these new lower teams is likely going to surpass the top teams in their current state.