No part of the lifestyle the posters on the past 3 pages are describing (3 kids 5 and under in 5 different activities per week and w/ a nanny and preschool) sounds fun at all to me.
I want to actually spend time w/ my kids. I want my kids to have time w/ me just focusing on them 1:1. I want to get to know my kids as people and not just shuttle them around to one activity after another (or have a nanny do it). I want to have a life where we (my spouse and kids and I) can relax and enjoy each other's company and not every waking minute is spent engaged in some "elite sport", working, or driving to/from work or elite sport. That does not sound enjoyable at all. Think about what is best for your kids and you and your spouse, OP. Do you envision a lifestyle where everyone is always stressed, always going from one thing to the next? Or do you envision a lifestyle where you have a nice family dinner at home most nights and read your kids stories and put them to bed on time and talk about their day and sit on the couch cuddling with them? I think only you can decide what it is that works best for you and your family. Hopefully whatever you choose will also work for your kids as well. |
I’m one of the pps with 3 kids. It is not so easy have one on one time with kids when you have three. I did not shuffle my kids to five different activities. Sports daily was when kids were older. When my kids were in preschool, we went to the park, stroller walks, to the zoo, nature center, museums, etc. |
Pp again. My kids did play soccer and tennis but it was not 5x per week, more like once per week and Dh did that since those were his sports. He loved playing with the boys. |
I’d argue you can still have a career and live a low stress life. A lot depends on kids’ activities and especially the number of kids. For many of us 2 to 3 wouldn’t be manageable. Even without a job I can’t imagine the logistics for three kids. OP go for it if you absolutely love kids and chaos. |
It doesn't have to be. We have two kids and both work. They're both competitive athletes who travel. Our social lives include friends with kids our kids are friends with as well as other friends. We travel for weekends with friends, we both have hobbies (mine is relatively time-consuming) and we spend a lot of time together as a family. |
NP, but if your kids are 5 and under, you can quietly take a seat. |
As someone who played water polo in college, I'm dying laughing imagining PP's four-year old taking water polo lessons. Lady, you're nuts. |
+1 |
If you have kids in travel sports you are probably not having dinner together every night - regardless of whether you have 2 or 3 children. If your spouse has a big job and gets home at 7 or 7:30 (as my husband does) you are not having family dinner together until your kids are in middle school. Another child does not make “getting to know” your children and family dinners impossible. Your argument is dumb. Go away. You don’t belong in this forum anyway. |
We have family dinner Friday-Sunday but my kids go to bed at 8 so it is not realistic. I am so sick of reading this stupid stuff from people who pretended that when you have three kids you can’t know them. |
I know a family (not in the DC area) that is similar - 3 kids, mom is a physician and dad is a big 4 consultant. Here is how they make it work:
- Mom is only on service 5 days per month plus 2 holidays/year. She teaches the rest of the time. - Dad is WFH when not traveling. - Mom's parents live nearby and watch the kids when mom is on service and dad is traveling. - The kids (none of which are school age yet) go to daycare on campus of mom's work. Mom has told me they will probably need a nanny soon because the oldest starts K in the fall not on campus and her dad is beginning to have health problems that make watching all 3 kids challenging. Nanny would care for the baby during the day and do pickup for the older two kids. |
My "argument" is not an argument. It's an explanation of what kind of lifestyle I want. I do not want the always stressed out running around from one thing to the next lifestyle. I have 2 kids in upper elementary. They do not play travel sports (that would change everything and I'm glad that they do not want to do that. If they wanted to play at that level, we would allow it but it would be a major change.) I didn't say dinner together every night...I think of it more like is family dinner a goal for you? If it is, maybe don't have 3 kids because it'll be harder to achieve that goal the more kids you have as they get older. And why are you telling me to go away and that I "don't belong in this forum?" Only people w/ 3 kids belong in this forum? Only people who want the hectic lifestyle belong? I suspect you react so strongly to my post because you see in it that not everyone is "super busy and stressed" just because they have kids and careers. That it is in fact possible to have a more relaxed, enjoyable lifestyle where you actually have conversations w/ each other and are not always rushing from one thing to the next. I suspect you seem so hostile toward me because there is some part of you that is unfulfilled w/ your go-go-go always busy life. |
No not a good career. You can have a job though. You have to decide what trade-offs are worth it. |
I am PP writing from my lived experience as a kid who grew up one of 3 kids. My parents both worked demanding jobs. They are not emotionally close to me or my siblings as adults because they never did have enough time for us when we were kids. They didn't give us enough attention. We were always treated as a pack of kids, not as individuals. I'm not saying every family w/ 3 kids and 2 working parents is the same, of course. But it is just practically speaking a lot harder to spend time and give attention to your kids the more kids you have, especially when you and your spouse are also working a demanding job. It just is a practical matter. Time is finite. There is no practical way that a parent w/ 3 kids can give each kid as much attention as a parent w/ 2 or 1 kids can. So, I'm not saying you personally won't be able to "know your kids" just because you have 3. But it is a lot less likely that each kid will get the attention they need the more kids you have and that is nothing personal against you it's just a fact. I wish my parents had scaled back their careers and had more time for me as a kid. I wish I had a close relationship w/ them. I wish I felt seen and heard and understood in my family growing up. But that was not their priority. Their priority was working first, family unit second, individual kids last/never. |
And I am tired of reading stuff from people who pretend that you have just as much time/attention for each kid when you have 3 kids as you do when you have 2 kids or 1 kid. |