Mclean exodus

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Anonymous wrote:No one is wanting to leave McLean. Current families know the track record of college recruitment. There's the devil you know...

Quietly said and true. - current MYS family

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Anonymous wrote:Why would players leave? Serious question. Is it practicing on BRAVE fields is too far? Is it increased roster size? Seems like partnering with BRAVE would make the teams stronger (even if only by a little), so I'm not sure why top players would be leaving.

Recruiting for top players. Roster size for everyone else

Understand roster size, how does this affect recruiting for top players in a negative way?

It doesn't unless BRAVE or BRYC coaches get older teams. Those coaches have no track record or network compared to McLean.

McLean is getting the older ages.

Are you on the board of the FXU and can confirm that's true? Whether we stay or go will depend on coaching slate.

Are you saying your kids are to good to play for BRYC or VYS coaches?

How arrogant.

VYS does not have any ECNL level teams or cosches. Therefore They shouldn’t be assigned to any FXU ECNL teams. This new club needs to post the criteria they are using to assign coaches. It should be clear and metrics based.

Answer the question. Are you saying that the current Union families are too good to have their kids coached by a VYS coach? Do you feel this way about BRYC as well?

The criteria has been posted. All things including coaching coaching decisions need to be approved unanimously.

I really hope the VYS and BRYC coaches are reading these forums. Both clubs are a part of this ‘Union’ now and their coaches should be given THEIR 2/3 of the HC coaching slots on both the boys and girls sides.

If BRYC and VYS already starts conceding ground on major issues such as this then we are just in for another decade of The McLean Way. And if ECNL has taught us anything recently it’s that The McLean Way is no longer wanted and it does not work.

The truth is this, if VYS or BRAVE new what they were doing this merger wouldn't be necessary. ECNL boys is generally a league over reach and a disaster across the board so this is about the girls side primarily. McLean has been a founding member of ECNL and has had an excellent track record of success. ECNL over saturated Fairfax in reaction to Girls DA years ago and now league is pruning back.

BRAVE/BRYC have not proven themselves at this level and that lack of on field success as well as college placement success does not warrant them a 2/3 vote in an area they have relatively little experience and success.

While McLean results have not been what they've been in the past their college placement has not fallen off, because they are known, trusted and respected by colleges.

So, no VYS is in over its head and really should put their ego aside and just shut up and listen to McLean.

If McLean wants to learn how to win a U16 State Cup or get two kids on ODP then I'm sure they'll be all ears.

This. This thinking is exactly why McLean failed. This McLean coach can't accept what the McLean Assistant Executive Director himself said -- that ECNL was tracking Union's metrics, and they were no bueno. And that their ECNL-RL membership was also in trouble. A sinking ship needs support. Swallow your pride and take the help that VYS and BRYC are offering. If you're concerned that you'll lose your coaching spot on staff, go talk to the folks at McLean who are making 1/3 of the decisions for the new club. Make your case for why you should be on the coaching slate. Or if not, update your resume. You're wasting your time on this forum.

Problem with your narrative is that Brave was in the same trouble and place, but Brave isn’t communicating at ALL and McLean is only mentioning that in passing because rightly they’d expect Brave to be transparent with families on this point and it hasn’t been.

What does it matter at this point? It’s been decided by ECNL, which was communicated. Stop deflecting. VYS and BRYC are ready to move forward. MYS’s internal chaos is holding this up.

Here is how this plays out. People leave McLean because VYS and BRYC suck. The new Union will struggle and then ECNL will just pull the plug entirely.

This will be because of two little community rec clubs getting in over their head and running another club into the ground.

Arlington, NVA, VDA all get stronger while VYS and kills a good brand in two shor years they end up playing in NCSL again.

Conveniently left out the part where ECNL said that McLean sucked too 😂

Their college placement was fine and ECNL competition had parity across the girls conferences. BRAVE certainly sucked at all aspects from college placement to competition.

THIS.

A little compromise here?

How about VYS and BRYC come together to teach McLean the ins and outs of u8-u12 development. McLean’s track record suggests they don’t want this but they certainly needs this.

In exchange, McLean teaches those clubs a thing or two about college placement. McLean also shows VYS and BRYC how to recruit kids developed elsewhere and claim as their own. True art.

All decisions have to be unanimous.

Since when has BRYC and VYS been the leader in U9-U12 development lmfao

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Anonymous wrote:Why would players leave? Serious question. Is it practicing on BRAVE fields is too far? Is it increased roster size? Seems like partnering with BRAVE would make the teams stronger (even if only by a little), so I'm not sure why top players would be leaving.

Recruiting for top players. Roster size for everyone else

Understand roster size, how does this affect recruiting for top players in a negative way?

It doesn't unless BRAVE or BRYC coaches get older teams. Those coaches have no track record or network compared to McLean.

McLean is getting the older ages.

Are you on the board of the FXU and can confirm that's true? Whether we stay or go will depend on coaching slate.

Are you saying your kids are to good to play for BRYC or VYS coaches?

How arrogant.

VYS does not have any ECNL level teams or cosches. Therefore They shouldn’t be assigned to any FXU ECNL teams. This new club needs to post the criteria they are using to assign coaches. It should be clear and metrics based.

Answer the question. Are you saying that the current Union families are too good to have their kids coached by a VYS coach? Do you feel this way about BRYC as well?

The criteria has been posted. All things including coaching coaching decisions need to be approved unanimously.

I really hope the VYS and BRYC coaches are reading these forums. Both clubs are a part of this ‘Union’ now and their coaches should be given THEIR 2/3 of the HC coaching slots on both the boys and girls sides.

If BRYC and VYS already starts conceding ground on major issues such as this then we are just in for another decade of The McLean Way. And if ECNL has taught us anything recently it’s that The McLean Way is no longer wanted and it does not work.

The truth is this, if VYS or BRAVE new what they were doing this merger wouldn't be necessary. ECNL boys is generally a league over reach and a disaster across the board so this is about the girls side primarily. McLean has been a founding member of ECNL and has had an excellent track record of success. ECNL over saturated Fairfax in reaction to Girls DA years ago and now league is pruning back.

BRAVE/BRYC have not proven themselves at this level and that lack of on field success as well as college placement success does not warrant them a 2/3 vote in an area they have relatively little experience and success.

While McLean results have not been what they've been in the past their college placement has not fallen off, because they are known, trusted and respected by colleges.

So, no VYS is in over its head and really should put their ego aside and just shut up and listen to McLean.

If McLean wants to learn how to win a U16 State Cup or get two kids on ODP then I'm sure they'll be all ears.

This. This thinking is exactly why McLean failed. This McLean coach can't accept what the McLean Assistant Executive Director himself said -- that ECNL was tracking Union's metrics, and they were no bueno. And that their ECNL-RL membership was also in trouble. A sinking ship needs support. Swallow your pride and take the help that VYS and BRYC are offering. If you're concerned that you'll lose your coaching spot on staff, go talk to the folks at McLean who are making 1/3 of the decisions for the new club. Make your case for why you should be on the coaching slate. Or if not, update your resume. You're wasting your time on this forum.

Problem with your narrative is that Brave was in the same trouble and place, but Brave isn’t communicating at ALL and McLean is only mentioning that in passing because rightly they’d expect Brave to be transparent with families on this point and it hasn’t been.

What does it matter at this point? It’s been decided by ECNL, which was communicated. Stop deflecting. VYS and BRYC are ready to move forward. MYS’s internal chaos is holding this up.

Here is how this plays out. People leave McLean because VYS and BRYC suck. The new Union will struggle and then ECNL will just pull the plug entirely.

This will be because of two little community rec clubs getting in over their head and running another club into the ground.

Arlington, NVA, VDA all get stronger while VYS and kills a good brand in two shor years they end up playing in NCSL again.

Conveniently left out the part where ECNL said that McLean sucked too 😂

Their college placement was fine and ECNL competition had parity across the girls conferences. BRAVE certainly sucked at all aspects from college placement to competition.

BRAVE has only operated for 18months.
McLean ECNL has been around for how long? And yet couldn’t hold it together and now facing the boot from ECNL.

BRYC had ECNL before Brave. It's not like Brave was this brand new set up because of the addition of little VYS.

Let's not forget what happened with BRYC ECNL and think that was any better. A local known Scottish family tore that thing down.

Pointing fingers? And yet MYS is now facing the same!

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Anonymous wrote:Why would players leave? Serious question. Is it practicing on BRAVE fields is too far? Is it increased roster size? Seems like partnering with BRAVE would make the teams stronger (even if only by a little), so I'm not sure why top players would be leaving.

Recruiting for top players. Roster size for everyone else

Understand roster size, how does this affect recruiting for top players in a negative way?

It doesn't unless BRAVE or BRYC coaches get older teams. Those coaches have no track record or network compared to McLean.

McLean is getting the older ages.

Are you on the board of the FXU and can confirm that's true? Whether we stay or go will depend on coaching slate.

Are you saying your kids are to good to play for BRYC or VYS coaches?

How arrogant.

VYS does not have any ECNL level teams or cosches. Therefore They shouldn’t be assigned to any FXU ECNL teams. This new club needs to post the criteria they are using to assign coaches. It should be clear and metrics based.

Answer the question. Are you saying that the current Union families are too good to have their kids coached by a VYS coach? Do you feel this way about BRYC as well?

The criteria has been posted. All things including coaching coaching decisions need to be approved unanimously.

I really hope the VYS and BRYC coaches are reading these forums. Both clubs are a part of this ‘Union’ now and their coaches should be given THEIR 2/3 of the HC coaching slots on both the boys and girls sides.

If BRYC and VYS already starts conceding ground on major issues such as this then we are just in for another decade of The McLean Way. And if ECNL has taught us anything recently it’s that The McLean Way is no longer wanted and it does not work.

The truth is this, if VYS or BRAVE new what they were doing this merger wouldn't be necessary. ECNL boys is generally a league over reach and a disaster across the board so this is about the girls side primarily. McLean has been a founding member of ECNL and has had an excellent track record of success. ECNL over saturated Fairfax in reaction to Girls DA years ago and now league is pruning back.

BRAVE/BRYC have not proven themselves at this level and that lack of on field success as well as college placement success does not warrant them a 2/3 vote in an area they have relatively little experience and success.

While McLean results have not been what they've been in the past their college placement has not fallen off, because they are known, trusted and respected by colleges.

So, no VYS is in over its head and really should put their ego aside and just shut up and listen to McLean.

If McLean wants to learn how to win a U16 State Cup or get two kids on ODP then I'm sure they'll be all ears.

This. This thinking is exactly why McLean failed. This McLean coach can't accept what the McLean Assistant Executive Director himself said -- that ECNL was tracking Union's metrics, and they were no bueno. And that their ECNL-RL membership was also in trouble. A sinking ship needs support. Swallow your pride and take the help that VYS and BRYC are offering. If you're concerned that you'll lose your coaching spot on staff, go talk to the folks at McLean who are making 1/3 of the decisions for the new club. Make your case for why you should be on the coaching slate. Or if not, update your resume. You're wasting your time on this forum.

Problem with your narrative is that Brave was in the same trouble and place, but Brave isn’t communicating at ALL and McLean is only mentioning that in passing because rightly they’d expect Brave to be transparent with families on this point and it hasn’t been.

Hey, I'm not saying that Brave wasn't in trouble as well. Clearly, they were, or they wouldn't merge with Union. What I'm saying is that this whole idea of "VYS should put its ego aside and just shut up and listen to McLean," which I assume means that the person thinks the coaching slate hasn't been released because VYS is claiming its 1/3 stake in it, is exactly why McLean is failing. Too much ego. Why let any of the three clubs have a majority of the decisions? They all failed. Stop fighting. Join forces and make this the best ECNL club in Northern Virginia.

This! See the opportunity before you to be a powerhouse in NOVA and the Midatlantic ECNL. Stop the negativity.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would players leave? Serious question. Is it practicing on BRAVE fields is too far? Is it increased roster size? Seems like partnering with BRAVE would make the teams stronger (even if only by a little), so I'm not sure why top players would be leaving.

Recruiting for top players. Roster size for everyone else

Understand roster size, how does this affect recruiting for top players in a negative way?

It doesn't unless BRAVE or BRYC coaches get older teams. Those coaches have no track record or network compared to McLean.

McLean is getting the older ages.

Are you on the board of the FXU and can confirm that's true? Whether we stay or go will depend on coaching slate.

Are you saying your kids are to good to play for BRYC or VYS coaches?

How arrogant.

VYS does not have any ECNL level teams or cosches. Therefore They shouldn’t be assigned to any FXU ECNL teams. This new club needs to post the criteria they are using to assign coaches. It should be clear and metrics based.

Answer the question. Are you saying that the current Union families are too good to have their kids coached by a VYS coach? Do you feel this way about BRYC as well?

The criteria has been posted. All things including coaching coaching decisions need to be approved unanimously.

I really hope the VYS and BRYC coaches are reading these forums. Both clubs are a part of this ‘Union’ now and their coaches should be given THEIR 2/3 of the HC coaching slots on both the boys and girls sides.

If BRYC and VYS already starts conceding ground on major issues such as this then we are just in for another decade of The McLean Way. And if ECNL has taught us anything recently it’s that The McLean Way is no longer wanted and it does not work.

The truth is this, if VYS or BRAVE new what they were doing this merger wouldn't be necessary. ECNL boys is generally a league over reach and a disaster across the board so this is about the girls side primarily. McLean has been a founding member of ECNL and has had an excellent track record of success. ECNL over saturated Fairfax in reaction to Girls DA years ago and now league is pruning back.

BRAVE/BRYC have not proven themselves at this level and that lack of on field success as well as college placement success does not warrant them a 2/3 vote in an area they have relatively little experience and success.

While McLean results have not been what they've been in the past their college placement has not fallen off, because they are known, trusted and respected by colleges.

So, no VYS is in over its head and really should put their ego aside and just shut up and listen to McLean.

If McLean wants to learn how to win a U16 State Cup or get two kids on ODP then I'm sure they'll be all ears.

This. This thinking is exactly why McLean failed. This McLean coach can't accept what the McLean Assistant Executive Director himself said -- that ECNL was tracking Union's metrics, and they were no bueno. And that their ECNL-RL membership was also in trouble. A sinking ship needs support. Swallow your pride and take the help that VYS and BRYC are offering. If you're concerned that you'll lose your coaching spot on staff, go talk to the folks at McLean who are making 1/3 of the decisions for the new club. Make your case for why you should be on the coaching slate. Or if not, update your resume. You're wasting your time on this forum.

Problem with your narrative is that Brave was in the same trouble and place, but Brave isn’t communicating at ALL and McLean is only mentioning that in passing because rightly they’d expect Brave to be transparent with families on this point and it hasn’t been.

What does it matter at this point? It’s been decided by ECNL, which was communicated. Stop deflecting. VYS and BRYC are ready to move forward. MYS’s internal chaos is holding this up.

Here is how this plays out. People leave McLean because VYS and BRYC suck. The new Union will struggle and then ECNL will just pull the plug entirely.

This will be because of two little community rec clubs getting in over their head and running another club into the ground.

Arlington, NVA, VDA all get stronger while VYS and kills a good brand in two shor years they end up playing in NCSL again.

Conveniently left out the part where ECNL said that McLean sucked too 😂

Their college placement was fine and ECNL competition had parity across the girls conferences. BRAVE certainly sucked at all aspects from college placement to competition.

THIS.

A little compromise here?

How about VYS and BRYC come together to teach McLean the ins and outs of u8-u12 development. McLean’s track record suggests they don’t want this but they certainly needs this.

In exchange, McLean teaches those clubs a thing or two about college placement. McLean also shows VYS and BRYC how to recruit kids developed elsewhere and claim as their own. True art.

All decisions have to be unanimous.

Since when has BRYC and VYS been the leader in U9-U12 development lmfao

To be better than McLean in that department takes only minor effort. We aren’t talking about being the leader here. Paying families just want to see improvements. This partnership allows the other clubs to assist McLean here.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would players leave? Serious question. Is it practicing on BRAVE fields is too far? Is it increased roster size? Seems like partnering with BRAVE would make the teams stronger (even if only by a little), so I'm not sure why top players would be leaving.

Recruiting for top players. Roster size for everyone else

Understand roster size, how does this affect recruiting for top players in a negative way?

It doesn't unless BRAVE or BRYC coaches get older teams. Those coaches have no track record or network compared to McLean.

McLean is getting the older ages.

Are you on the board of the FXU and can confirm that's true? Whether we stay or go will depend on coaching slate.

Are you saying your kids are to good to play for BRYC or VYS coaches?

MV gets 2/3 of the vote

How arrogant.

VYS does not have any ECNL level teams or cosches. Therefore They shouldn’t be assigned to any FXU ECNL teams. This new club needs to post the criteria they are using to assign coaches. It should be clear and metrics based.

If VYS gets a 1/3 of the vote it should get 1/3 of the coaching slots.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would players leave? Serious question. Is it practicing on BRAVE fields is too far? Is it increased roster size? Seems like partnering with BRAVE would make the teams stronger (even if only by a little), so I'm not sure why top players would be leaving.

Recruiting for top players. Roster size for everyone else

Understand roster size, how does this affect recruiting for top players in a negative way?

It doesn't unless BRAVE or BRYC coaches get older teams. Those coaches have no track record or network compared to McLean.

McLean is getting the older ages.

Are you on the board of the FXU and can confirm that's true? Whether we stay or go will depend on coaching slate.

Are you saying your kids are to good to play for BRYC or VYS coaches?

MV gets 2/3 of the vote

How arrogant.

VYS does not have any ECNL level teams or cosches. Therefore They shouldn’t be assigned to any FXU ECNL teams. This new club needs to post the criteria they are using to assign coaches. It should be clear and metrics based.

If VYS gets a 1/3 of the vote it should get 1/3 of the coaching slots.

And this right here, is a big part of the problem. Does everyone get trophies too?

[Anonymous]

Where we goin McLean Peeps??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where we goin McLean Peeps??

Valor Gold

[Anonymous]

A few comments/questions.

1. What will happen to the top ECNL coaches at McLean?
2. Is it fair to assume that at the older ages, teams should be much better with an influx of BRYC and VYS players being added?

[Anonymous]

Confirmed 2010 boys offers sent out
5 Brave players
4 Union players

2009 boys
3 Brave players
6 Union players

assuming the rest will be from outside clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Confirmed 2010 boys offers sent out
5 Brave players
4 Union players

2009 boys
3 Brave players
6 Union players

assuming the rest will be from outside clubs.

Funny! Confirmed! Seriously are you hacking emails? Just like the 2008 girls being done person we all know it doesn’t work that way. Cagey parents and kids especially in this situation. Nice try.

[Anonymous]

Any news on practice field locations for different age groups?

[Anonymous]

Doubt they will confirm that yet. At least you can feel safe that there will be space…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any news on practice field locations for different age groups?

Where? All the McLean coaches were over at Arlington today.