Lying is the national pastime in Israel. |
Remember, Zionists have been doing similar things to Palestinians since the Nakba. Some of the things Netanyahu claimed happened on 10/7, and that later turned out to be false (such as baking a baby in an oven) were actually done to Palestinians. And then Israel can't understand why Palestinians hate them so much. |
Yes, Israel has behaved shamefully. An example of what you describe happened to the people of Iqrit, a Palestinian Christian village in what is now northern Israel. The IDF "depopulated" it during the Nakba, forcing the inhabitants to flee either to Lebanon or Rameh (inside Israel). In 1951, the Israeli Supreme Court ruled that the people of Iqrit could finally return to their homes, but the world's most moral army, in contravention of the Supreme Court ruling, came in and destroyed the town. Think of the sheer spite of that! So although the surviving villagers and their descendants technically have the right to live there, their homes are gone. The Israeli Lands Administration continues to disrupt efforts by the villagers to return to their land. https://www.972mag.com/photos-on-easter-palestinians-resurrect-their-destroyed-village/ |
The endless lying by pro-Hamas, terrorist-supporting, Jew-hating bigots is absolutely astounding. Or maybe you’re just profoundly uninformed and malleable and spend your time on sites where paid propagandists post over and over again. I suppose that’s the more optimistic take on this kind of stupidity? I take solace in the fact that most Americans, according to a recent Harvard Harris poll, support Israel, want to see Hamas wiped out, and understand that people like you are purposely spreading BS and perhaps projecting, knowing full well that you’re wrongly accusing Israel of the crimes Hamas is committing. My recommendation? Broaden your spheres of influence. Read actual reports from non-Hamas affiliated sources, or simply own that you’re full of it. |
I watched this 1 hour video with a version of history you’d likely agree with: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9Il989gkc While the woman presenting is super articulate and I am sure what she is saying is true, I think she is missing an acknowledgement of the Palestinian experience that is equally as true. I am coming to the sad conclusion that neither side has any desire to see the other’s perspective. But I sincerely hope I’m wrong. Otherwise there will never be peace. Simply dismissing another’s belief of history as “stupid” and “uniformed” isn’t going to get you anywhere. Aren’t you curious enough to try to understand the Palestinian experience? |
In terms, specifically, of Israel's military action in Gaza, the ground is shifting. Last November, 50% of Americans approved of Israel's actions. A recent (March) Gallup poll shows that approval is down to 36% while 55% disapprove. A March Quinnipiac poll found support for American military aid has dropped dramatically. Americans oppose more military aid for Israel by 52% to 39%. Last November, those numbers were reversed. |
Israel should destroy as much of Hamas as they can until the effort is unsustainable. Then Israel and Palestinian (non Hamas) representatives should focus on the future, not the past. |
Sure. This is a recipe for a lovefest between the two. Kill, injure, displace, starve all Palestinians living in Gaza for 6+ months showing no recognition of their pain and then expect them to forget all of that and focus on a future of happy coexistence. With this even being a thought that is proposed here no wonder there is such a cycle of hatred in the ME. |
In the aftermath of 10/7, when did the IDF parade naked Palestinian girls around on the street? When did the IDF bake Palestinian babies in ovens? Why do you keep resorting to even worse hyperbole than the Israeli side? |
You forgot to mention 10/7, and the hostages. |
Video of 2 month old Laila Junaid in Gaza. She weighs about 4.5 lbs and is starving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qImWH3DDF-c |
Note that I didn't say "IDF." I said, "Zionists." Zionists have committed appalling, racially motivated atrocities against Palestinians for decades, and this is not hyperbole but fact. When Israeli sources falsely claimed that a baby had been baked in an oven, they might have had the story of 18-month-old Ali Dawabsheh in the back of their minds. Ali, along with his parents, was burned to death in an arson attack by a Zionist terrorist, Amiram Ben-Uliel. During the Nakba, Zionist terrorist groups, including the IDF, raped, murdered, and looted their way across what is now Israel. Another "burned child in an oven" story comes from the Deir Yassin massacre. It is reported that Irgun terrorists ordered a Palestinian baker to throw his son into an oven. When he refused, the Irgun beat him, threw his son into the oven, and threw the baker in after him. This is described in the documentary 1948: Creation and Catastrophe. Many of the atrocities perpetrated during the Nakba are described by Zionist veterans, who tell of rapes, mass executions, and theft (see the documentary Tantura). Obviously, what happened to Shani Louk was horrible and should never have happened, but I don't think she was naked. She was wearing the outfit she wore to the festival. Obviously, all the atrocities committed by Hamas and other militant groups on 10/7 must be roundly condemned, but these behaviors are being used to create racist tropes and pretend that all Palestinians are monsters and deserve their current suffering. We need to remember that Israel and Zionist militants have done similar things but on a much larger scale. |
So sad. This deliberate starvation is a war crime, and Israel needs to be held accountable. There is further information at https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/27/starvation-anatomy-of-a-very-cruel-slow-death. |
Hamas could end this today. Why won't they? Why are these fat Hamas leaders hiding out in other countries, refusing to negotiate in good faith, while their people starve? Is it possibly because things are better for them if their people suffer? |
You're just gesturing around broadly. The death of Ali was at the hands of one nutjob, it happened years ago, and the Israeli justice system sentenced him to prison for three life sentences. That last part in particular undermines your narrative about "zionists" since obviously the Jewish court system disagreed with Ben-Uliel's actions. You don't want Palestinians to be held accountable for the heinous actions of Hamas yet you want all Jews to be held accountable for the actions of one crazy person? |