Pregnant women are being turned away from anti-abortion state ERs

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Anonymous wrote:As a woman I would always be pro choice but may be high numbers of unwanted pregnancies reflect light on need of better educating women and men about abstinence and birth control.

haha.. have you read through the Relationship forum which is littered with men mostly complaining about the lack of sex in their marriage?

Perhaps marital relationship counseling is key. And teaching our children how to become better partners.

haha.. can you see R men willing to go to marital counseling early on in the relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the lack of availability of birth control and abortion , I wonder if douching and smoking cigarettes will become a thing again like the 1950s . That was the abortion or contraceptive technique back then from what I hear

I had almost forgotten about this, my mom told me she used douching to prevent pregnancy in the 50s and 60s. Guess that's what younger women are going back to.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

Where have you been? We all know society high fives the guys as studs but labels the woman as a promiscuous sluts.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

You want to counsel both people when a pregnant woman needs medical care? Do you know what thread you’re on? This thread is about how forced birther policies are leading to pregnant women unable to access medical care.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

You want to counsel both people when a pregnant woman needs medical care? Do you know what thread you’re on? This thread is about how forced birther policies are leading to pregnant women unable to access medical care.

Oh, just shut-up with your bogus jargon. It’s boring. No one forces you, unless it was rape.

DP. I had an ectopic, which was the result of a very much planned and hoped for round of IVF/FET. Thank God I wasn't denied appropriate medical treatment at the time, or I would be dead.
Read the original story and responses carefully...this thread isn't about women being denied abortions for unwanted pregnancies. It is about women who have been denied appropriate health care during obstetrical emergencies due to anti-abortion policies enacted in some states.
The fallout of these draconian anti-abortion policies affects all women of child-bearing age, if they cannot access appropriate obstetrical and/or gynecological healthcare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

You want to counsel both people when a pregnant woman needs medical care? Do you know what thread you’re on? This thread is about how forced birther policies are leading to pregnant women unable to access medical care.

Oh, just shut-up with your bogus jargon. It’s boring. No one forces you, unless it was rape.

Spoken like a forced birther.

And we will NEVER shut up!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

I'm talking about how men should also be responsible in preventing unwanted pregnancies by using condoms, or get a vasectomy.

Some people think that since it's women who are the ones who get pregnant, that they alone are responsible for birth control, but then have no qualms about controlling women's bodies.

Regarding wanted pregnancies, if a man loves his wife and their unborn baby, then he should get the h3ll out of those states that have backwards laws.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

You want to counsel both people when a pregnant woman needs medical care? Do you know what thread you’re on? This thread is about how forced birther policies are leading to pregnant women unable to access medical care.

I didn't realize we were counselling people who needed medical care in this thread. I'm pretty sure you (or the PP I was responding to) were being an asshat to women. Let me go check.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

Yep. That was it. Let's not snipe at just one person by gender for choosing unwisely, when two were involved. While we're at it, let's not put on airs that we are practicing medicine in this thread, because that's just being an idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

You want to counsel both people when a pregnant woman needs medical care? Do you know what thread you’re on? This thread is about how forced birther policies are leading to pregnant women unable to access medical care.

Oh, just shut-up with your bogus jargon. It’s boring. No one forces you, unless it was rape.

DP. I had an ectopic, which was the result of a very much planned and hoped for round of IVF/FET. Thank God I wasn't denied appropriate medical treatment at the time, or I would be dead.
Read the original story and responses carefully...this thread isn't about women being denied abortions for unwanted pregnancies. It is about women who have been denied appropriate health care during obstetrical emergencies due to anti-abortion policies enacted in some states.
The fallout of these draconian anti-abortion policies affects all women of child-bearing age, if they cannot access appropriate obstetrical and/or gynecological healthcare.

The "pro life" people don't seem to care that the women potentially turned away at the ER are possibly losing much wanted and planned for babies, or even their own lives.

[Anonymous]

We need to pay attention. The oral arguments at SCOTUS for Idaho v. United States could have further devastating implications for maternal care if SCOTUS sides with Idaho:

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortion-back-at-scotus-can-states-ban-emergency-abortion-care-for-pregnant-patients/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to pay attention. The oral arguments at SCOTUS for Idaho v. United States could have further devastating implications for maternal care if SCOTUS sides with Idaho:

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/issue-brief/abortion-back-at-scotus-can-states-ban-emergency-abortion-care-for-pregnant-patients/

+1 Because of Idaho's abortion ban (in front of SCOTUS on Wednesday) some Idaho physicians are advising their pregnant patients to purchase memberships with emergency air transport companies to avoid potentially significant costs if they need to be transported out of state.
https://www.newsfromthestates.com/article/loss-federal-protection-idaho-spurs-pregnant-patients-plan-emergency-air-transport

[Anonymous]

It's weird there are people who think medical pregnancy complications can be solved with relationship counseling. Any woman who gets pregnant can have emergency medical needs.

That's wild people who want to get pregnant/ are pregnant in Idaho may need to purchase emergency air transport insurance so they aren't bankrupted if they have a medical emergency.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were pregnant living in one of those backward states, I'd be super scared. I wouldn't even go visit those states when pregnant in fear of needing urgent medical care and being turned away.

I completely agree. I am 100% certain that I would be childless today if doctors had been forced to behave this way during my unexpectedly complicated pregnancies.

Also agree. These forced birther states are going to drive down their birth rates by making pregnancy more dangerous in these places. It is already dangerous enough.

That’s why birth control is next.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

DP. There are still two people involved and two people responsible for consensual sex that leads to procreation. If you're going to snipe at one for making bad judgement calls, you should be sniping at both equally.

You want to counsel both people when a pregnant woman needs medical care? Do you know what thread you’re on? This thread is about how forced birther policies are leading to pregnant women unable to access medical care.

I didn't realize we were counselling people who needed medical care in this thread. I'm pretty sure you (or the PP I was responding to) were being an asshat to women. Let me go check.

If only more men were willing to use condoms and take male birth control pills. Women aren't getting pregnant on their own.

Are you talking rape?
Or you simply should learn to choose more wisely?

Yep. That was it. Let's not snipe at just one person by gender for choosing unwisely, when two were involved. While we're at it, let's not put on airs that we are practicing medicine in this thread, because that's just being an idiot.

No, you’re talking to multiple different people. You suggesting counseling in this specific thread makes absolutely zero sense.