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Glad you found a solution. I was going to suggest a book that you all start reading and they can keep reading after you are gone.

Now that you are traveling I think it would be cool to give a book about the US or World so they can learn about different countries. Possibly including where you are going. Like if it was Hawaii you could do a special meal talking about Hawaiian culture.

but the pool sounds great, hopefully the weather cooperates!

Have a great last day with the kids and good luck with your travels and schooling!
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The priority of agency business owners, is their profits. This is a distinct conflict of interest with nannies and families, who strive to provide the best possible childcare.


You've got to be kidding. So agencies are only out to make money but nannies don't care about money they only want to provide better care for children. This laughable when every post from a nanny on this board is how they want, wish, deserve more money.

I suspect that there is bad blood between nannies who don't qualify to meet an agencies minimum bar. Agencies are businesses and need to only represent qualified nannies to stay in business. This knocks out a lot of nannies who have poor work histories, bad driving records, criminal records, refuse vaccinations and TB tests, and lack education.


Where was the above quote taken from? I must have missed it.

I can say that I have been on/off this message board for years. I have not said I wanted more money etc. I have commented on various parent questions and education things.



So some of your "child care giving" members are self-employed?


What do you mean by child care giving members are self employed?
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Anonymous wrote:My name is Glenda Propst. I am one of the 3 CO Founders of the now defunct National Association of Nannies. (The late Harriette Grant and Eva Harkness Phd were also co founders)
NAN was run by nannies for nannies from 1992-2005.
Even our organization had agencies as supporting members.
After 28 years in this industry, I can say without a doubt that in order to move our industry forward it takes all facets of the industry to work together toward progress.
We don't always agree on everything but we try to focus on our common goals and I am proud to be a founding board member of INA.
Our industry is multi faceted, if we are divided from within, how can we expect to project professionalism and a united industry to the rest of the world?


It would be good if nannies had any real voice within the International Nanny Association.

For instance:
For nannies who might be coming up on the market for a new job, why don't the agency board members allow these INA member nannies the ability to list themselves as available for hire, along with some limited space for more detailed specifics?

That's only one clear example of agency conflict of interest. There are many more.

If nannies can't list themselves, then agencies should not be allowed to list themselves either, on the INA website. The way it is now, it appears to be an agency self-promoting scam.

Would an INA agency board member please explain that?
Would that be Susan?






You didn't ask me specifically but I am happy to try to answer your question. Thank you for giving a specific example of something you would like to see.

If I am understanding correctly, you would like an option for nannies to be listed as available for hire on the INA website?
Are you suggesting it be on a message board such as our jobs board? Or on the member directory listing where the nanny can make comments that they are available?
What do you mean by nannies listing themselves? They are listed in the membership directory. Everyone who OPTS IN is listed in the directory.


As for the Agency Board members making the decisions, that is not true. We as a collective board make a decision. We present information to each other, discuss and vote on things. We have about 70% of our membership as caregivers and 30% as businesses. The nannies do have a voice just like any other member of the organization. I am entering my 4th year on the board. One example of a nanny voice being heard and changed is our conference registration fee. Three years ago the board was approached to offer a 50% off conference registration fee to new members after June 1, of the previous year. This has been successful. Many nannies have utilized this discount and came back the following year as well.

This year we had many new nanny agencies that were founded by nannies who have retired from active nannying or will be doing nanny work along side with placing nannies. This seems to have a great aspect of both sides of the placement agency in my opinion.

Again as I mentioned before I am happy to bring things to the attention of the INA board and work with you or anyone else on items. Any changes that want to be done need to be explored then presented to the board. I hope you have seen by the majority of our board that we are approachable and welcome thoughts and ideas.

Now I must head out for carpool.

Alice
inanannyalice@gmail.com
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Becky here again . . . the blance of memberships in INA are business related. Business related means nanny placement agencies, support businesses (nanny tax co., background check co., insurance co., etc.), staff of any of these busnesses, educators/schools with nanny or NCS specific training programs and some Newborn Care Specialists that also operate placement opportunities for NCS individuals.

So if you're a Newborn Care Specialist, NCS, are you a nanny or a business?


No one on the Ina board knows?


Sorry I have been working and not able to comment. NCS can be either a nanny or business. As they are a caregiver or a business. I know of only one member that is a business as they place NCS as well as are a NCS. Does this answer your question if NCS are nanny or business members?
nannydebsays wrote:An honest question (actually several questions) for the poster(s) who seem intent on complaining about INA:

What would you do differently?

How would you run a nanny only organization?

How would you fund it?

What would you choose to do with the "voice" a professional organization gave you and your board members?

How much time would you devote to running your professional group?

Would you present conferences?

I'm sincerely curious. As someone who volunteers my time to run a local support group and also present a local conference, I find that I simply can't find the time to do more than I do now. As I mentioned in a previous post, many nannies work 50+ hours a week, already do volunteer work and/or have busy family lives, and simply can't or won't take on the additional work of running a huge group.

Hope to see your answers tomorrow!


These are great questions NannyDeb..I would love to know how some feel they would run another group. It is a sincere question, and something I know I have struggled with personally over the past 18 years with being involved in groups.

Alice
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