how to handle vacation pay?

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Anonymous wrote:If my nanny is going to miss a pay day while on vacation, I will write her check early, but I only pay through the original pay day. The rest of the vacation will appear on the next check, when those days would normally be paid.

If she asked for an advance, I would consider it.

Perhaps she considers giving you advanced labor without immediate compensation, but I wouldn't allow that to go too far.

By "giving you advanced labor without immediate compensation" you mean working like any regular employee and then being paid for work performed? You make it sound like the only reasonable manner of compensation is an IV drip of cash flowing directly into nanny's pockets at a rate precisely equivalent to number of minutes elapsed.

I'm pretty sure I've heard some nannies on this board suggest something very close to this ...

[Anonymous]

Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

Ok, how about a different perspective:

When I worked retail, I could call and have my check given to someone else if I wasn't going to be in that day. Are you okay with the nanny leaving your house key with her sister so that her sister can run in and grab the check off the counter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

Ok, how about a different perspective:

When I worked retail, I could call and have my check given to someone else if I wasn't going to be in that day. Are you okay with the nanny leaving your house key with her sister so that her sister can run in and grab the check off the counter?

I would be ok with her sister coming by to get the check when I (or whoever is covering for you) was home. I assume your friend didn't have a key to the store, but went there during operating hours, right? Or, I could leave it on an envelope in a safe spot on the porch or something. It would be no problem to work that out.

[Anonymous]

Agree with PP. Fine with having someone else swing by to pick up check while I'm home and nanny is vacationing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

Ok, how about a different perspective:

When I worked retail, I could call and have my check given to someone else if I wasn't going to be in that day. Are you okay with the nanny leaving your house key with her sister so that her sister can run in and grab the check off the counter?

I would be ok with her sister coming by to get the check when I (or whoever is covering for you) was home. I assume your friend didn't have a key to the store, but went there during operating hours, right? Or, I could leave it on an envelope in a safe spot on the porch or something. It would be no problem to work that out.

The store was open 24 hours a day, closed from 7pm Christmas Eve (cashiers left when everyone was gone) til 6 am day after Christmas (stocking came in at 10 pm on Christmas). My point is that comparing to a commercial enterprise is comparing apples to oranges. And since when is any place out in the open (on the porch?!) safe for a check?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

Ok, how about a different perspective:

When I worked retail, I could call and have my check given to someone else if I wasn't going to be in that day. Are you okay with the nanny leaving your house key with her sister so that her sister can run in and grab the check off the counter?

I would be ok with her sister coming by to get the check when I (or whoever is covering for you) was home. I assume your friend didn't have a key to the store, but went there during operating hours, right? Or, I could leave it on an envelope in a safe spot on the porch or something. It would be no problem to work that out.

How stupid. If nanny is away on vacation how does her sister having the check help? You think sister is going to mail it to her overseas? You let your sister keep all your bank account information to go deposit it? What dumb logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

Ok, how about a different perspective:

When I worked retail, I could call and have my check given to someone else if I wasn't going to be in that day. Are you okay with the nanny leaving your house key with her sister so that her sister can run in and grab the check off the counter?

I would be ok with her sister coming by to get the check when I (or whoever is covering for you) was home. I assume your friend didn't have a key to the store, but went there during operating hours, right? Or, I could leave it on an envelope in a safe spot on the porch or something. It would be no problem to work that out.

How stupid. If nanny is away on vacation how does her sister having the check help? You think sister is going to mail it to her overseas? You let your sister keep all your bank account information to go deposit it? What dumb logic.

She's going to give her sister the key to MB's house, so I guess she trusts her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every family I've ever worked for has paid me upfront for my vacation. I've never taken a two week vacation but I can't imagine they'd give me trouble for that either. If they go away for multiple weeks (which they have), they pay me upfront for that too. I can't imagine working for someone so mean. The corporate world is different so I don't understand the comparison. I do know though, that a company will direct deposit your pay on due date so you wouldn't have to wait till you return from vacation for your paycheck which I think is the whole point the nannies here are trying to make.

So mean? What does that even mean? It's mean not to advance pay before a long vacation?

Yes it's mean. Some families go away for weeks at a time. Try to imagine the hardship if you make around $35k a year in DC, and your employer doesn't pay you for 4 weeks. Many of the MB posters are posting from a principal standpoint that they don't have to advance pay or help make it available, not because it's difficult, or would cost them any more than usual, just because they can. It churns my stomach to think that some of you have another person's livelihood in your hands and you're so unbelievably selfish.

You're talking about a different scenario - when a family chooses to be away during pay days, not when the nanny chooses to do so. Presumably if the family is away they are not making payment "available" on pay day. There is a difference.

Ok, how about a different perspective:

When I worked retail, I could call and have my check given to someone else if I wasn't going to be in that day. Are you okay with the nanny leaving your house key with her sister so that her sister can run in and grab the check off the counter?

I would be ok with her sister coming by to get the check when I (or whoever is covering for you) was home. I assume your friend didn't have a key to the store, but went there during operating hours, right? Or, I could leave it on an envelope in a safe spot on the porch or something. It would be no problem to work that out.

How stupid. If nanny is away on vacation how does her sister having the check help? You think sister is going to mail it to her overseas? You let your sister keep all your bank account information to go deposit it? What dumb logic.

She's going to give her sister the key to MB's house, so I guess she trusts her.

My sister has deposit envelopes for my account, uses the same bank I do, and would have no problem stopping in for 2 minutes. Nor would she have a problem depositing it in the ATM for me. Or she could deposit it in her account and transfer the funds to me if I needed my ATM card on vacation. If you can't trust your sister, who in the world could you trust?!

[Anonymous]

Hi All - OP here. Wow, this thread got busy! Thanks to everyone who chimed in. We advanced her pay, because we could and it seemed like the best thing to do in our situation. When she returns, I'm going to see if she would like to set up direct deposit. That would make things easier for both of us, I think!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi All - OP here. Wow, this thread got busy! Thanks to everyone who chimed in. We advanced her pay, because we could and it seemed like the best thing to do in our situation. When she returns, I'm going to see if she would like to set up direct deposit. That would make things easier for both of us, I think!

Good ideas for both, OP!