This is why nannies get bitter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I understand that these job posts are completely ridiculous I'm not sure why it makes you bitter. The people who post them are either complete idiots or people who have never hired a nanny or known anyone who has and honestly don't know better. Hopefully they will quickly find out no decent nanny would even bother replying to that position. But no one said you have to reply either. I'm not a nanny but I've been looking for a job recently since we are moving out of state. In my profession you unfortunately don't get to know the salary before you are offerred a job and it's considered very bad form to ask. I traveled to go on an interview and in the end the offer was so low it wouldn't even have covered the gas it would take me to get there every day. It was so ridiculous it was laughable. Was I annoyed that I wasted my time on this interview? Yes. Am I bitter? No. Just ignore those job posts and hope those posters get a clue.

You seem to be completely missing the point.

If it's illegal, it should not be allowed by care and sittercity.

That's how we normally do things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You would think that INA
www.nanny.org
and
the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies
www.theapna.org
would issue a statement, at the very least, with regard to these online nanny agency, illegal practices. But no. Instead they accept $$$$$ from care.com

Why?

Another egregious conflict-of-interest by agency owners.

These are trade organizations that organize conferences. They are not lobbying organizations. It is not their fault that a lobbying organization does not exist. The last few days of picking of INA on this site has been a real demonstration of people not understanding how the world works. If you want to lobby congress, you have to organize people, raise money, and basically, just like anything else, do it yourself. Though really, I would focus on improving employment laws for nannies, not on involving job posting sites in the enforcement of current laws. I just don't think there is that much to be gained pushing all the illegal jobs to Craig's list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that INA
www.nanny.org
and
the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies
www.theapna.org
would issue a statement, at the very least, with regard to these online nanny agency, illegal practices. But no. Instead they accept $$$$$ from care.com

Why?

Another egregious conflict-of-interest by agency owners.

These are trade organizations that organize conferences. They are not lobbying organizations. It is not their fault that a lobbying organization does not exist. The last few days of picking of INA on this site has been a real demonstration of people not understanding how the world works. If you want to lobby congress, you have to organize people, raise money, and basically, just like anything else, do it yourself. Though really, I would focus on improving employment laws for nannies, not on involving job posting sites in the enforcement of current laws. I just don't think there is that much to be gained pushing all the illegal jobs to Craig's list.

www.nanny.org (INA) says:

"The International Nanny Association (INA) encourages you to be aware of any propositions or pending legislation that may have an affect on the in-home child care industry. Please notify the INA Governmental Affairs Committee of any such action in your own state or on the federal level, so that our membership may help direct and educate the legislators who are involved. INA must be a proactive association and we value your input."
-INA Governmental Affairs Committee

9:36 seems to be an INA agency board person attempting to confuse the public, but please feel free to clarify your motives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I understand that these job posts are completely ridiculous I'm not sure why it makes you bitter. The people who post them are either complete idiots or people who have never hired a nanny or known anyone who has and honestly don't know better. Hopefully they will quickly find out no decent nanny would even bother replying to that position. But no one said you have to reply either. I'm not a nanny but I've been looking for a job recently since we are moving out of state. In my profession you unfortunately don't get to know the salary before you are offerred a job and it's considered very bad form to ask. I traveled to go on an interview and in the end the offer was so low it wouldn't even have covered the gas it would take me to get there every day. It was so ridiculous it was laughable. Was I annoyed that I wasted my time on this interview? Yes. Am I bitter? No. Just ignore those job posts and hope those posters get a clue.

You seem to be completely missing the point.

If it's illegal, it should not be allowed by care and sittercity.

That's how we normally do things.

I still don't know what that makes you bitter. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed by the posters stupidity but bitter seems extreme. No one is forcing you to apply for these jobs or even to read those job postings. Just ignore them.

[Anonymous]

*why not what

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I understand that these job posts are completely ridiculous I'm not sure why it makes you bitter. The people who post them are either complete idiots or people who have never hired a nanny or known anyone who has and honestly don't know better. Hopefully they will quickly find out no decent nanny would even bother replying to that position. But no one said you have to reply either. I'm not a nanny but I've been looking for a job recently since we are moving out of state. In my profession you unfortunately don't get to know the salary before you are offerred a job and it's considered very bad form to ask. I traveled to go on an interview and in the end the offer was so low it wouldn't even have covered the gas it would take me to get there every day. It was so ridiculous it was laughable. Was I annoyed that I wasted my time on this interview? Yes. Am I bitter? No. Just ignore those job posts and hope those posters get a clue.

You seem to be completely missing the point.

If it's illegal, it should not be allowed by care and sittercity.

That's how we normally do things.

I still don't know what that makes you bitter. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed by the posters stupidity but bitter seems extreme. No one is forcing you to apply for these jobs or even to read those job postings. Just ignore them.

Why would you ignore illegal activity??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While I understand that these job posts are completely ridiculous I'm not sure why it makes you bitter. The people who post them are either complete idiots or people who have never hired a nanny or known anyone who has and honestly don't know better. Hopefully they will quickly find out no decent nanny would even bother replying to that position. But no one said you have to reply either. I'm not a nanny but I've been looking for a job recently since we are moving out of state. In my profession you unfortunately don't get to know the salary before you are offerred a job and it's considered very bad form to ask. I traveled to go on an interview and in the end the offer was so low it wouldn't even have covered the gas it would take me to get there every day. It was so ridiculous it was laughable. Was I annoyed that I wasted my time on this interview? Yes. Am I bitter? No. Just ignore those job posts and hope those posters get a clue.

You seem to be completely missing the point.

If it's illegal, it should not be allowed by care and sittercity.

That's how we normally do things.

I still don't know what that makes you bitter. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed by the posters stupidity but bitter seems extreme. No one is forcing you to apply for these jobs or even to read those job postings. Just ignore them.

Why would you ignore illegal activity??

As a PP pointed out there is unfortunately nothing illegal about posting a job below minimum wage. It's only illegal to actually pay someone less than minimum wage. I'm not saying that's right but that's what the law is so why would you waste your time getting yourself upset about something you can't do anything about? I'm just saying for your own well being instead of letting it upset you and make you "bitter" just ignore it. I'm not saying it's ok for people to post these jobs. I'm just saying maybe we'd all be happier people if we didn't let things we can't do anything about upset us so much.

[Anonymous]

PP, if it matters that much to you, contact your legislative representatives and ask them to make it illegal to advertise wages below minimum wage.

Bitching does not reduce the outrageously low job postings, nor does it help you.

[nannydebsays]

Anonymous wrote:You would think that INA
www.nanny.org
and
the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies
www.theapna.org
would issue a statement, at the very least, with regard to these online nanny agency, illegal practices. But no. Instead they accept $$$$$ from care.com

Why?

Another egregious conflict-of-interest by agency owners.

Proof?

And generally speaking, your conspiracy theory sucks. Why would agencies that COMPETE with on-line sites take money from those same sites.

BBBZZZTTT

Please try again later.

[Anonymous]

And what about nannies that want $25/hour for doing what is described in OPs post. Greed goes both ways! Care.com shouldn't allow nannies to demand that much money. There should be a decision about what is the going rate and that should be it. Not a penny more. How would you guys like that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that INA
www.nanny.org
and
the Association of Premier Nanny Agencies
www.theapna.org
would issue a statement, at the very least, with regard to these online nanny agency, illegal practices. But no. Instead they accept $$$$$ from care.com

Why?

Another egregious conflict-of-interest by agency owners.





These are trade organizations that organize conferences. They are not lobbying organizations. It is not their fault that a lobbying organization does not exist. The last few days of picking of INA on this site has been a real demonstration of people not understanding how the world works. If you want to lobby congress, you have to organize people, raise money, and basically, just like anything else, do it yourself. Though really, I would focus on improving employment laws for nannies, not on involving job posting sites in the enforcement of current laws. I just don't think there is that much to be gained pushing all the illegal jobs to Craig's list.

www.nanny.org (INA) says:

"The International Nanny Association (INA) encourages you to be aware of any propositions or pending legislation that may have an affect on the in-home child care industry. Please notify the INA Governmental Affairs Committee of any such action in your own state or on the federal level, so that our membership may help direct and educate the legislators who are involved. INA must be a proactive association and we value your input."
-INA Governmental Affairs Committee

9:36 seems to be an INA agency board person attempting to confuse the public, but please feel free to clarify your motives. "

i am not 9:36 nor with INA but your post proves 9:36's point - that you do not understand how lobbying and trade associations often differ. the INA posting above basically says "share info w/ us so we can share it w/ other nannies". It does not suggest that INA would actually organize active lobbying itself as an organization on a topic.

[Anonymous]

aupair.com and greataupair.com - SO many of those families ask for under $100 a week aupair. Some of them are exploitive enough to ask for a Housekeeper & a nanny for 100 a week. I have even seen ones on findaupair for $150 A MONTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope NO ONE EVER AGREES TO WORK FOR THESE PEOPLE

[Anonymous]

JOB ADVERT

We are looking for a warm, caring, intelligent, responsible, proactive, high performing nanny to look after, primarily, our three month old twins but also from time to time, our 1 1/2 year old too. Keeping the house spotless and orderly is also a requirement of this role.

We would prefer someone qualified and with several years' experience - esp with newborns. Experience with twins is also desirable. Initiative, reliability, integrity, trustworthiness, a sense of calm and pride in one's work are must-haves. As are an up-to-date first aid certificate and a full clean drivers licence. I am a bit of a clean freak so would like someone who also has such tendencies!

Ideally this position would be three days a week. (Given we are looking for someone to be in our home caring for the most precious creatures in our world, personality fit and the required personal attributes are more important than anything else.)

We have a small dog.

Pay: 100-200 a week

[Anonymous]

Why are you reposting them here? Just ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you reposting them here? Just ignore them.

Don't you get it? It's illegal. Period.