Ask nanny reference for pay rate?

[Anonymous]

While an interviewer might ask for your salary history, your current employer is not going to verify your current salary without your permission, so it's not really comparable. Just let the nanny offer up whatever information she wants to with regards to her rate.

Not true. Your permission is not necessary to verify salary history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Writing an epistle, doesn't negate the fact that you based your posts on what YOU would pay... unless you actively collect field data, on what a professional nanny with a degree, who works for employers who require a degree is paid, again I will reaffirm that you are not qualified to dictate what she should earn.

I'm the person you are quoting. I thought it unwise to cut and paste the whole conversation because you are correct, I wrote an epistle.

Here's where you are wrong. I did collect field data, otherwise known as market rates, for my area. I am more than qualified, as the employer who has researched what the job is worth, to determine what I'm willing to pay. As I said, you can take it or leave it. No harm, no foul.

Your point about a professional nanny with a degree is moot. I already addressed that. If a NF places value on a degree, or experience, they can and should pay for it. The truth is, there is no requirement for a degree that guarantees a high quality nanny. There are many great nannies with no degree. A degree doesn't translate into higher wages unless a particular family thinks that is a skill worth paying for. As I said, if a nanny presents with a skill a family wants, she should be paid more.

I get where you are coming from. You think a nanny dictates the terms and rate. That makes sense. We'd all like to command our dream salary, reasonable or not.

You are wrong.

I guess we both have to respectfully agree to disagree. I normally stay away from these types of threads. I was led do this forum 8 years ago, by a friend who was a doula/nanny. I've seen such open resentment for nannies that it's downright depressing. Whatever your intentions were, your post came off incredibly condescending. Be well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Writing an epistle, doesn't negate the fact that you based your posts on what YOU would pay... unless you actively collect field data, on what a professional nanny with a degree, who works for employers who require a degree is paid, again I will reaffirm that you are not qualified to dictate what she should earn.

I'm the person you are quoting. I thought it unwise to cut and paste the whole conversation because you are correct, I wrote an epistle.

Here's where you are wrong. I did collect field data, otherwise known as market rates, for my area. I am more than qualified, as the employer who has researched what the job is worth, to determine what I'm willing to pay. As I said, you can take it or leave it. No harm, no foul.

Your point about a professional nanny with a degree is moot. I already addressed that. If a NF places value on a degree, or experience, they can and should pay for it. The truth is, there is no requirement for a degree that guarantees a high quality nanny. There are many great nannies with no degree. A degree doesn't translate into higher wages unless a particular family thinks that is a skill worth paying for. As I said, if a nanny presents with a skill a family wants, she should be paid more.

I get where you are coming from. You think a nanny dictates the terms and rate. That makes sense. We'd all like to command our dream salary, reasonable or not.

You are wrong.

I guess we both have to respectfully agree to disagree. I normally stay away from these types of threads. I was led do this forum 8 years ago, by a friend who was a doula/nanny. I've seen such open resentment for nannies that it's downright depressing. Whatever your intentions were, your post came off incredibly condescending. Be well.

Led to this thread was what I meant to type...thanks autocorrect.

[Anonymous]

Writing an epistle, doesn't negate the fact that you based your posts on what YOU would pay... unless you actively collect field data, on what a professional nanny with a degree, who works for employers who require a degree is paid, again I will reaffirm that you are not qualified to dictate what she should earn.


I'm the person you are quoting. I thought it unwise to cut and paste the whole conversation because you are correct, I wrote an epistle.

Here's where you are wrong. I did collect field data, otherwise known as market rates, for my area. I am more than qualified, as the employer who has researched what the job is worth, to determine what I'm willing to pay. As I said, you can take it or leave it. No harm, no foul.

Your point about a professional nanny with a degree is moot. I already addressed that. If a NF places value on a degree, or experience, they can and should pay for it. The truth is, there is no requirement for a degree that guarantees a high quality nanny. There are many great nannies with no degree. A degree doesn't translate into higher wages unless a particular family thinks that is a skill worth paying for. As I said, if a nanny presents with a skill a family wants, she should be paid more.

I get where you are coming from. You think a nanny dictates the terms and rate. That makes sense. We'd all like to command our dream salary, reasonable or not.

You are wrong.


I guess we both have to respectfully agree to disagree. I normally stay away from these types of threads. I was led do this forum 8 years ago, by a friend who was a doula/nanny. I've seen such open resentment for nannies that it's downright depressing. Whatever your intentions were, your post came off incredibly condescending. Be well.

I will agree that we should likely respectfully agree to disagree. I respect that you interpreted my post as condescending, although that was not my intention. I have no resentment for nannies and I agree with you that resentment for nannies is downright depressing.

On an anonymous board, it is very difficult to fully understand where someone is coming from.

As you have posted to me, I return the wish. Be well.

[Anonymous]

It's a perfectly acceptable question to ask a professional nanny or their current/previous employers. The only reason an employer might not answer it is that they are paying under the table for all or a portion of her wages.

[Anonymous]

If I don't get informative and truthful references about you I won't hire you.
If you give me someone who only has fluff to say, I'll think they are stupid themselves.
I always talk to the mother and the father on separate calls, and ask for details of job, hours, vacation, pay, their experience/history with nannies in general, one thing they wish could have been tweaked, timeliness, communication skills and style, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I don't get informative and truthful references about you I won't hire you.
If you give me someone who only has fluff to say, I'll think they are stupid themselves.
I always talk to the mother and the father on separate calls, and ask for details of job, hours, vacation, pay, their experience/history with nannies in general, one thing they wish could have been tweaked, timeliness, communication skills and style, etc.

You have no respect for other people's time. I would not take work for you if I found out you were hounding my references, demanding multiple phone calls from each.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I don't get informative and truthful references about you I won't hire you.
If you give me someone who only has fluff to say, I'll think they are stupid themselves.
I always talk to the mother and the father on separate calls, and ask for details of job, hours, vacation, pay, their experience/history with nannies in general, one thing they wish could have been tweaked, timeliness, communication skills and style, etc.

Your sense of self-importance is grossly over-inflated. If you call me after my spouse had just wasted her time on you, I'd tell you where to go. And I'd tell our former nanny to eliminate you as a possibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I don't get informative and truthful references about you I won't hire you.
If you give me someone who only has fluff to say, I'll think they are stupid themselves.
I always talk to the mother and the father on separate calls, and ask for details of job, hours, vacation, pay, their experience/history with nannies in general, one thing they wish could have been tweaked, timeliness, communication skills and style, etc.

MB troll post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nannies in the DC area earn 15-30/hr.

If you go through an agency but independently it's 12 to 15

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I don't get informative and truthful references about you I won't hire you.
If you give me someone who only has fluff to say, I'll think they are stupid themselves.
I always talk to the mother and the father on separate calls, and ask for details of job, hours, vacation, pay, their experience/history with nannies in general, one thing they wish could have been tweaked, timeliness, communication skills and style, etc.

Your sense of self-importance is grossly over-inflated. If you call me after my spouse had just wasted her time on you, I'd tell you where to go. And I'd tell our former nanny to eliminate you as a possibility.

Haha, a new Dcum Nanny Forum low!
A disgruntled nanny pretending to be a man rapid firing posting on Dcum!
Ooooh, ahhhh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nannies in the DC area earn 15-30/hr.

If you go through an agency but independently it's 12 to 15

Nope. Sorry. Personally, I tend to do better without using agencies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would it be cool to ask a nanny's reference how much they paid her? Or is that a no-no?

That's what I did. I took the numbers I got and based my offer off of that. I knew she was out of a job for a while and hard up for money so I offered her $2/hr under what I thought she would be happy with figuring she would get there with raises. It's been a year now with her and she seems happy. But I'm going to hold off on a raise unless she says something.

Karmas gonna get you. You're a dick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nannies in the DC area earn 15-30/hr.

If you go through an agency but independently it's 12 to 15

Nope. Sorry. Personally, I tend to do better without using agencies.

Same here. I have always done better without them.

[Anonymous]

You get what you pay for!