So given the choice of no job or job without pto, obv someone who can't afford not to work has to take the job available to her. |
Poster, this is one place where common sense is just not so common. It's no use trying to explain this concept to many of the MB's on here. How could someone who has the money to pay someone to care for her children when she doesn't even work understand the concept of needing a job regardless of the benefits? |
+1000 Indigent people must have jobs. They cannot risk losing a job by negotiating for benefits the employer doesn't want to offer, they cannot turn down a job in the hopes that a better one will show up next week, and they cannot take unpaid time off. That day's pay CAN be the difference between paying a bill or having your electricity turned off, between being able to afford an ER copay or having to suffer in pain at home undiagnosed, and between buying groceries or going to bed early to drown out the hunger. If you've never lived like that, be grateful, not judgmental. It isn't easy and we have just as much pride in ourselves (and our work) as you do. |
Right. All of the MBs that don't get it had privileged lives where they never worked a job without PTO and other benefits. I'll bet that many DID have to call in sick and get docked for a day's pay that they needed because they knew they could not perform their job duties. It's called being professional. The nanny should have told the MB that she was in pain and falling asleep so that her employer could deal with the situation. That was her duty and she failed. |
Yes, tell her that next time she should call and you could try and work something out if she normally doesn't have any PTO days. I don't get them for all of my PT positions, but I will gladly exchange a babysitting night on the weekend (at a later point and of equal hours) to still get paid my normal amount that week. I have had a ruptured ovarian cyst before. Not sure how it feels for anyone else, but the pain from it literally made me sick to my stomach, and it started early afternoon and went on the whole afternoon into the evening. By night I was finally starting to get over it. I was pretty much fine by the next day though, just a bit tired since I had gone through so much the day before. I doubt she would need tomorrow off (unless, like I said, her experience was much different than mine was). |
I never even went to the doctor/hospital when I had mine. I went to the doctor for a depo shot 2 days later and mentioned my experience. They told me that it had been an ovarian cyst and that they basically wouldn't have done anything but given me pain meds for it. I didn't go to the doctor because I was not nearby the hospital and there was NO WAY I was taking the bus there (like I wouldn't have been able to not be curled up in a little ball or stop myself from puking). I didn't have anyone that could drive me, nor any extra money to take a taxi. If things had stayed bad for any longer than they did, or got worse, then I would have called an ambulance. I had checked online to make sure it was not my appendix, and when I felt the pain in the WRONG area for it to be that, I stopped worrying and just pushed through it. |
Ok, we get that. That is how I live, even $20 is a big issue to my finances. But when I am really sick, I will call my boss and ask her if I could take a PTO day and do extra babysitting or something at a later date so that I CAN still get paid. I will let her know that if this isn't possible, if I am coming in to work (while sick) or will have to take a day off unpaid (if I can afford it or if my doctor has said I am contagious and cannot be around anyone). Most families WILL try to work with you on this and let you make up hours. Sometimes they will even offer me the day off paid without having to make up the hours (or let me go early with full pay if they can take over early that day). The thing is, I am not expecting them to give me the day off paid. It sounds like others ARE expecting this, that is why "wanting something for nothing" was mentioned. They want the money with no work for it. |
I'm not expecting anyone to give me anything. If I have decided to go to work sick, then I expect to work. If an MB poses the question of what she ought to do, my answer is to behave like a compassionate human being and do what you can. This MB was home and her children are 11 and 13. Having the nanny is purely a luxury, and if you give a crap about her you would send her home and work it out later. All you MBs care about is money and its really sad. This is a PERSON we are talking about who just had something inside her rupture and needs rest, but you all are creaming about entitlement and getting something for free. Sick. |
Screaming not creaming. |
A nanny shouldn't "expect" anything but what she agreed to, but an MB *should* have the decency to offer a PTO day for someone who clearly needs it and can't afford it otherwise. You all can muster more outrage over the treatment of your vegetables... |
You really have a chip on your shoulder. |
You are assuming that the MB was home all day with nothing to do. That's an entitled attitude. |
Nope no chip. Just an observation. I've seen some of the most abhorrent attitudes from nannies and MBs alike on this site, but this thread really bothers me. The fact that OP was so clueless she had to come here to check if this is a firing offense, and when it was suggested that the nice reasonable human thing to do would have been to send her home with pay, a bunch of MBs jumped down our throats going on about professionalism and entitlement. Given the choice, do you pick 1)taking a job with no PTO or 2)remaining jobless, risking your savings and your welfare? Lets say you take the job. You find yourself extremely ill one day/recently hospitalized. Do you 1)call out from work knowing you won't be able to pay your rent/grocery bill/daycare and that you and perhaps your children will go hungry or 2) go into work and do the best you can. It's easy to say you just wouldn't take a job without PTO or that you'd negotiate it but the reality is that some people just aren't in the position to do so. It's also easy to say that you'd put your professionalism before your bills or your needs, but until you've been there you can't say for sure that you would. Have some compassion please. Being a kind and caring person goes beyond being nice to people you feel are worth it (in your circle/peer group/social class) or donating to a charity once a year for the tax write off. |
You had me until this line. Definite chip. |
What do you think those naughty pre-teens would get up to while nanny had dozed off? Drawing on the walls? Helping themselves to a cookie before dinner? |