Revolving nanny-door

[Anonymous]

^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

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Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

Everyone has to get a break somewhere, but considering the comp plan I offer and the benefits, I don't hire entry level. Again, consistency is important to me. I've read the studies and know what is best for children. I make good money and childcare is not an area I skimp, cut corners, or take risks on.


I'm not employing a dog walker here.

How much are you paying your nanny, since you boast of such "high comp" rate?
Why do you sound so defensive about what you have done? If it is working for you dear, that is great.

But you do not know about other people's needs or situations. I can guarantee that any study that you may have read about on nanny longevity did not control for mommy presence in their life, economic situation of the family, etc. Families with money can pay more and possibly keep their nanny longer but they also have money to send their kids to expensive tutoring and camps. Those families also tend to not fight about money matters which influences kids.

Study after study looking at daycare vs nanny have not been able to conclude anything. Nanny longevity studies are even harder to do. I have to say, whatever you have been reading is crap, my dear. Your confidence of superiority in these matters also make you sound like a class A jerk.

Read "The Hell of American Daycare". There's even a thread on it in the Daycare forum. Your doctor can explain to you the critical need for stability in early childhood, and the likely consequences when a child is deprived of that.

Part of that Hell is the INstability of the poorly paid workers.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine. Children adjust all the time to changing situations.

Unhappy nannies should feel free to leave. They're doing the family a favor. Likewise, unhappy families should feel fine about letting a nanny go.

Everyone will adjust.

Let me guess... Her kids will be the first in line to put her away in "assisted living." She'll learn to adjust.

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Um... I'll share a little secret just between us. When you're departing because of impossible parents, NEVER tell them the truth. There's a very GOOD reason for that, and every nanny knows it. You make up something COMPLETELY unrelated to the NF. -Career Nanny

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

This thread is ridiculous.

Don't know why the poster paying this much to their nanny is so bitter and defensive if he or she is happy with their nanny and really thinks it is worth it.

Why ridiculous?

Oh, have a bad nanny? "Give her the world! Give her a million dollars. She's she'll stay!" That's your answer?

Have a poor performer in any job in the world?? Just give more money! Unhappy with Obama?? Why don't we just pay him more???!!??

Unhappy with Trump?? Obviously if we just pay him more, then he'll make the best president in history.

WTH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

This poster has too much angst to be a happy MB pleased with her long term nanny. I think it is a nanny writing her dream job.

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

This thread is ridiculous.

Don't know why the poster paying this much to their nanny is so bitter and defensive if he or she is happy with their nanny and really thinks it is worth it.

Why ridiculous?

Oh, have a bad nanny? "Give her the world! Give her a million dollars. She's she'll stay!" That's your answer?

Have a poor performer in any job in the world?? Just give more money! Unhappy with Obama?? Why don't we just pay him more???!!??

Unhappy with Trump?? Obviously if we just pay him more, then he'll make the best president in history.

WTH.

Your critical reading skills could use a brush up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

This poster has too much angst to be a happy MB pleased with her long term nanny. I think it is a nanny writing her dream job.

Nope. Just an employer who is amused by people who are befuddled as to why they can't keep a nanny more than 2years.

Being a nanny would be my nightmare job.

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

This poster has too much angst to be a happy MB pleased with her long term nanny. I think it is a nanny writing her dream job.

Nope. Just an employer who is amused by people who are befuddled as to why they can't keep a nanny more than 2years.

Being a nanny would be my nightmare job.

You know, your "I'm so better than everyone. I'm so right everyone else is flat out wrong" says a lot about you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:^^oh and if you must, live in, separate apartment, car, health insurance, 3 weeks PTO, vacations with the family expenses paid, and $600 on the books weekly rate for 40hrs (much less hours when kids are in school).

ZERO problems with retention.

Carry on fooling you self that your kids are better off with a revolving door of unhappy nannies who probably despise walking in your door each morning.

Um... I thought you said something about high comp rate... That is not that high. WTF are you talking about??

I have live out. I have paid anywhere from 16 to 22 per hour, similar benefits.

My 22 hr nanny left me too. She was in her 50's with a high schooler. She said she wanted to go to school full time for a second career when her son went to college.

So you explain why my 22 /hr nanny left me when I am doing everything you said since you have all the answers.

Did your nanny have a separate fully furnished apartment that was 1,000sq feet, with complete privacy detached from thr house? Did you give your nanny a car for work and personal use? Did her health insurance have no deductible? Are your kids school aged and during the scool year did you continue to pay her at 40hrs? If my nanny wanted to go back to school she wouldn't even have to quit.

Despite all the benefits we offer, if we did not create a positive working environment based on respect we too could not retain her. I could offer the world, but people need to feel valued and respected, there is your answer, dear.

Bingo. If only the others were half as smart.