Revolving nanny-door

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

[Anonymous]

I think stability is one of the most important things for a child, as an MB I see that the bond my children (6 and 2) have with their nanny is deeply important to them. Though I, as an adult, have many annoyances with our nanny at times (and I am sure she with me) I put in effort to keep things stable for the children. That includes allowing nanny to bring her young children to work when she needs to, which my children actually love. There are many benefits of having a nanny with children. I am sure there are more perfect nannies out there and to be honest I am sometimes tempted to try someone new when I see glowing recommendations on my neighborhood listserve, but from a child's perspective consistency in the adults in their lives is crucial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think stability is one of the most important things for a child, as an MB I see that the bond my children (6 and 2) have with their nanny is deeply important to them. Though I, as an adult, have many annoyances with our nanny at times (and I am sure she with me) I put in effort to keep things stable for the children. That includes allowing nanny to bring her young children to work when she needs to, which my children actually love. There are many benefits of having a nanny with children. I am sure there are more perfect nannies out there and to be honest I am sometimes tempted to try someone new when I see glowing recommendations on my neighborhood listserve, but from a child's perspective consistency in the adults in their lives is crucial.

Sheer brilliance. Do you have a PhD in early childhood development, by any chance? Once upon a time, your intelligence would have been basic common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

Good to hear this. When you hire well, you've done well. And your children are the ultimate beneficiaries. Kudos to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think stability is one of the most important things for a child, as an MB I see that the bond my children (6 and 2) have with their nanny is deeply important to them. Though I, as an adult, have many annoyances with our nanny at times (and I am sure she with me) I put in effort to keep things stable for the children. That includes allowing nanny to bring her young children to work when she needs to, which my children actually love. There are many benefits of having a nanny with children. I am sure there are more perfect nannies out there and to be honest I am sometimes tempted to try someone new when I see glowing recommendations on my neighborhood listserve, but from a child's perspective consistency in the adults in their lives is crucial.

You are doing a disservice to your children settling for a nanny who is not excellent because you're afraid of change. You are also being taken advantage of by your nanny!

Kids will have many beloved caretakers who will only be in their lives for a year or less. Healthy children adjust well to these changes and it's important to teach them resilience as their lives will be full of change. It's far more important that children have the best care rather than mediocre care for a longer length of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think stability is one of the most important things for a child, as an MB I see that the bond my children (6 and 2) have with their nanny is deeply important to them. Though I, as an adult, have many annoyances with our nanny at times (and I am sure she with me) I put in effort to keep things stable for the children. That includes allowing nanny to bring her young children to work when she needs to, which my children actually love. There are many benefits of having a nanny with children. I am sure there are more perfect nannies out there and to be honest I am sometimes tempted to try someone new when I see glowing recommendations on my neighborhood listserve, but from a child's perspective consistency in the adults in their lives is crucial.

You would be surprised how quickly they grow bonds with someone else, especially at that age. I mean, if you are happy with minor annoyances, that is wonderful. However, if you happened to find that it is no longer a great fit, then getting a new one is nowhere near the end of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think stability is one of the most important things for a child, as an MB I see that the bond my children (6 and 2) have with their nanny is deeply important to them. Though I, as an adult, have many annoyances with our nanny at times (and I am sure she with me) I put in effort to keep things stable for the children. That includes allowing nanny to bring her young children to work when she needs to, which my children actually love. There are many benefits of having a nanny with children. I am sure there are more perfect nannies out there and to be honest I am sometimes tempted to try someone new when I see glowing recommendations on my neighborhood listserve, but from a child's perspective consistency in the adults in their lives is crucial.

You would be surprised how quickly they grow bonds with someone else, especially at that age. I mean, if you are happy with minor annoyances, that is wonderful. However, if you happened to find that it is no longer a great fit, then getting a new one is nowhere near the end of the world.

Do you seriously know nothing about attachment during the first three years of a child's life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

Everyone has to get a break somewhere, but considering the comp plan I offer and the benefits, I don't hire entry level. Again, consistency is important to me. I've read the studies and know what is best for children. I make good money and childcare is not an area I skimp, cut corners, or take risks on.


I'm not employing a dog walker here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think stability is one of the most important things for a child, as an MB I see that the bond my children (6 and 2) have with their nanny is deeply important to them. Though I, as an adult, have many annoyances with our nanny at times (and I am sure she with me) I put in effort to keep things stable for the children. That includes allowing nanny to bring her young children to work when she needs to, which my children actually love. There are many benefits of having a nanny with children. I am sure there are more perfect nannies out there and to be honest I am sometimes tempted to try someone new when I see glowing recommendations on my neighborhood listserve, but from a child's perspective consistency in the adults in their lives is crucial.

You would be surprised how quickly they grow bonds with someone else, especially at that age. I mean, if you are happy with minor annoyances, that is wonderful. However, if you happened to find that it is no longer a great fit, then getting a new one is nowhere near the end of the world.

Yes. When a child is hungry foe love they tend to do that. Kids in foster care operate the same way. Take a kid form a healthy and loving environment and thrust them into something new, they are not going to adapt so well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

Everyone has to get a break somewhere, but considering the comp plan I offer and the benefits, I don't hire entry level. Again, consistency is important to me. I've read the studies and know what is best for children. I make good money and childcare is not an area I skimp, cut corners, or take risks on.


I'm not employing a dog walker here.

What a breath of fresh air around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

Everyone has to get a break somewhere, but considering the comp plan I offer and the benefits, I don't hire entry level. Again, consistency is important to me. I've read the studies and know what is best for children. I make good money and childcare is not an area I skimp, cut corners, or take risks on.


I'm not employing a dog walker here.

How much are you paying your nanny, since you boast of such "high comp" rate?
Why do you sound so defensive about what you have done? If it is working for you dear, that is great.

But you do not know about other people's needs or situations. I can guarantee that any study that you may have read about on nanny longevity did not control for mommy presence in their life, economic situation of the family, etc. Families with money can pay more and possibly keep their nanny longer but they also have money to send their kids to expensive tutoring and camps. Those families also tend to not fight about money matters which influences kids.

Study after study looking at daycare vs nanny have not been able to conclude anything. Nanny longevity studies are even harder to do. I have to say, whatever you have been reading is crap, my dear. Your confidence of superiority in these matters also make you sound like a class A jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

Everyone has to get a break somewhere, but considering the comp plan I offer and the benefits, I don't hire entry level. Again, consistency is important to me. I've read the studies and know what is best for children. I make good money and childcare is not an area I skimp, cut corners, or take risks on.


I'm not employing a dog walker here.

How much are you paying your nanny, since you boast of such "high comp" rate?
Why do you sound so defensive about what you have done? If it is working for you dear, that is great.

But you do not know about other people's needs or situations. I can guarantee that any study that you may have read about on nanny longevity did not control for mommy presence in their life, economic situation of the family, etc. Families with money can pay more and possibly keep their nanny longer but they also have money to send their kids to expensive tutoring and camps. Those families also tend to not fight about money matters which influences kids.

Study after study looking at daycare vs nanny have not been able to conclude anything. Nanny longevity studies are even harder to do. I have to say, whatever you have been reading is crap, my dear. Your confidence of superiority in these matters also make you sound like a class A jerk.

Dont be so insecure, my dear. It just makes you look like you have no confidence in your poor choices and ability to retain good nannies. Work it gurrrrl!

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Good for you. You were lucky. Your situation was not through your brains and setup though.

I've tried the high compensation, good work environment. I do not micromanage. I get people who desperately WANT the high compensation but are not as good as the $15 dollar nanny I had before. Why did the good nannies leave? They had their own children. No amount of money was going to make them come back. Or, they want to pursue a 4 year degree full time. I cannot lure back my good nannies just with good compensation and a good work environment.

Now I've had a string of highly paid nannies who just do not work out. They are entitled, measure job creep too much, are not team players.

Lesson learned: high pay does not bring in the good nannies.

It certainly brings in MORE nannies though in the interview process. That's about all it does for me.

I'm the one with the 5yr nanny and you clearly don't know how to hire with longevity in mind. In addition to compensation I noted that you have to choose wisely. You are focusing and getting defensive over the compensation aspect.

My nanny has no children of her own and was past pratical/typical childbearing years. She also is a career nanny, not someone floundering about in life.

I would never hire a nanny who has little kids or one who is in her 20s who might have babies. I'm simply not down with my kids not having consistency which is exactly why we went the nanny route vs daycare/AuPairs.

FACT is that most people should not be managing people in any capacity. There are shitty managers all over the workforce in all fields who think quite highly of themselves, but who in reality absolutly suck and are miserable to work for.

So... what you are saying is illegally discriminate based on age and marital status??????

I have been unsatisfied with the higher end paid nannies. Having said that, each of our nannies have stayed for at least 1 year. I do not think my kids were compromised in any way by a revolving nanny door, following the law and not discriminating based on age or marital status.

You should ask yourself if your kids are getting the best care when you have one person identified as the best nanny to care for your children for life. When they were young, you should've had someone who was more nurturing. When they are old, they should be socially smart, tutor the kids. No one is great on both fronts.

There are also nannies who are loved by kids (fun, engaged, plays hide and seek with them) and there are nannies who are loved by parents (takes care of random things around the house, keeps a very clean kitchen.) Have you thought about what kind of nanny you have and if perhaps you are getting served the most more than your kids by your long-running nanny?

I'm happy for you. Truly. It seems like you found a situation that works for you.

Just because the rest of us haven't, doesn't mean we are inept or are not paying enough.

My nanny is a professional and is 45yrs old and has been doing this for 25yrs and has watched a range of kids. Her longer engagement was 16years with 4 children. She did well enough with the homework that one managed to get into West Point and one into Stanford.

So that means she started nannying when she was 20. Her 16 year engagement started when she was between 20 and 29.

Glad someone gave her a chance instead of hiring these "professessional nanny" types with a proven track record.

Everyone has to get a break somewhere, but considering the comp plan I offer and the benefits, I don't hire entry level. Again, consistency is important to me. I've read the studies and know what is best for children. I make good money and childcare is not an area I skimp, cut corners, or take risks on.


I'm not employing a dog walker here.

How much are you paying your nanny, since you boast of such "high comp" rate?
Why do you sound so defensive about what you have done? If it is working for you dear, that is great.

But you do not know about other people's needs or situations. I can guarantee that any study that you may have read about on nanny longevity did not control for mommy presence in their life, economic situation of the family, etc. Families with money can pay more and possibly keep their nanny longer but they also have money to send their kids to expensive tutoring and camps. Those families also tend to not fight about money matters which influences kids.

Study after study looking at daycare vs nanny have not been able to conclude anything. Nanny longevity studies are even harder to do. I have to say, whatever you have been reading is crap, my dear. Your confidence of superiority in these matters also make you sound like a class A jerk.

Read "The Hell of American Daycare". There's even a thread on it in the Daycare forum. Your doctor can explain to you the critical need for stability in early childhood, and the likely consequences when a child is deprived of that.