How much to pay...

[Anonymous]

How much to offer to pay nanny per day (or per hour, 8+ hrs) to watch our 3 month old for 3 days/week? The nanny would be coming to our house. Nanny will bring her almost 1 year old with her every time. We live in Northern VA suburbs outside the beltway.

[Anonymous]

Since it’s part time, you should pay a slightly higher rate. $20-22/h. Anything over 8 hours should be paid at 1.5 her regular rate. Do not pay her daily. Nannies are hourly employees. I started when my charge was 3 months making $21/h.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since it’s part time, you should pay a slightly higher rate. $20-22/h. Anything over 8 hours should be paid at 1.5 her regular rate. Do not pay her daily. Nannies are hourly employees. I started when my charge was 3 months making $21/h.

Pp, I was and still am doing full time. FYI

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since it’s part time, you should pay a slightly higher rate. $20-22/h. Anything over 8 hours should be paid at 1.5 her regular rate. Do not pay her daily. Nannies are hourly employees. I started when my charge was 3 months making $21/h.

Pp, I was and still am doing full time. FYI

I was thinking to pay much less cuz she gets to bring her kid with her. Thoughts?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since it’s part time, you should pay a slightly higher rate. $20-22/h. Anything over 8 hours should be paid at 1.5 her regular rate. Do not pay her daily. Nannies are hourly employees. I started when my charge was 3 months making $21/h.

Pp, I was and still am doing full time. FYI

I was thinking to pay much less cuz she gets to bring her kid with her. Thoughts?

Pp here, I’m assuming employer is ok with this which isn’t a perk to them since the charge is so young and so is the child. However, I think $20-22/h is good for part time even if nanny takes her child

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since it’s part time, you should pay a slightly higher rate. $20-22/h. Anything over 8 hours should be paid at 1.5 her regular rate. Do not pay her daily. Nannies are hourly employees. I started when my charge was 3 months making $21/h.

Pp, I was and still am doing full time. FYI

I was thinking to pay much less cuz she gets to bring her kid with her. Thoughts?

Pp here, I’m assuming employer is ok with this which isn’t a perk to them since the charge is so young and so is the child. However, I think $20-22/h is good for part time even if nanny takes her child

$21+/hr when bringing her own toddler is insane. $17-18/hr is plenty. If she doesn't like it you can easily find a nanny who won't bring her own child and put your child's needs second for $20-22/hr, OR find a family with similar aged infant for a nanny share (with the benefit of kids at similar ages and in similar routines AND no maternal bias) for $13-15/hr.

[Anonymous]

If she's bringing her own child, it's essentially a share arrangement so you'd calculate it based on that, and yes, it would be a little higher because it's part-time. (Three days per week is part-time, even if for full days.)

Probably $12-$15 depending on what the going rates are for nannyshares in your area. Ask around.

[Anonymous]

Why would her pay be affected by whether or not she brings her child? She’s still doing the work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would her pay be affected by whether or not she brings her child? She’s still doing the work.

I’m the poster who commented first. I said $20-22 because it’s part time and the employer is ok with her being her child. $12-15 is WAY too low, even if she brings her kid. Stop low balling. Op: I do suggest trying to find another nanny. A 3 month old and 1 yo is tough, the older child might disrupt your child’s schedule. And no this is not paid like a nanny share. That’s ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Op here. I was thinkig it’s kind of like a nanny share actually. Of course I’d prefer for nanny not to bring her kid and focus solely on my kid, but if it’s a lot less expensive then it would be worth it. Just wondering how much to offer. Also does it matter that it’s under the table?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I was thinkig it’s kind of like a nanny share actually. Of course I’d prefer for nanny not to bring her kid and focus solely on my kid, but if it’s a lot less expensive then it would be worth it. Just wondering how much to offer. Also does it matter that it’s under the table?

You should not hire this nanny just because it’ll be cheaper if she brings her own child. Find another nanny. Or do a nanny share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. I was thinkig it’s kind of like a nanny share actually. Of course I’d prefer for nanny not to bring her kid and focus solely on my kid, but if it’s a lot less expensive then it would be worth it. Just wondering how much to offer. Also does it matter that it’s under the table?

If you’re dking under the table a solid $15-17/h would suffice. That saves her over $100 in taxes weekly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would her pay be affected by whether or not she brings her child? She’s still doing the work.

This argument is so ridiculous I cringe every time I hear it. In childcare, you pay for the ratio. If you have one child then by hiring a nanny, the most expensive form of childcare, you are guaranteeing a 1:1 ratio (your child gets 100% of the caregivers attention), and you are paying for that, usually $20-25/hr.

If you are doing a nanny share with another family with one child the ratio is now 1:2 (your child is getting about 50% of the caregivers attention), and thus the cost goes down to roughly $12-15/hr per family.

If you enroll your child in daycare, where the ratios are much higher, 1:4 or 1:6, then again your cost goes down, to about $5-10/hr.

Maternal bias is a REAL thing. I see it regularly at the library and playground where I often see nannies with their charges and their own children. The nanny gives her own child more attention every time. If both kids are crying, who does she run to first?

So, if a nanny brings her own child, the ratio may be 1:2, but your child is likely getting even less than 50% of nanny's attention, since she will inherently favor her own child.

And especially with the age difference this is a bad plan for a million reasons. Is your home fully toddler proofed yet? Is nanny expecting you to provide a pack n play, extra high chair and double stroller to accommodate her child? What will happen when nanny's child is ill? When your own child is ill will nanny take the day off and expect to be paid for it so she doesn't risk getting her own child sick? Are you going to provide food for both nanny AND her child? Is your baby going to be expected just to nap on the go every morning so nanny's child can continue his usual routine? Is your baby going to spend twice as much time in a baby bjorn or stroller while nanny engages more directly with her own child?

What if nanny's child sees mommy taking care of a new baby and feels jealous and retaliates? What if nanny's child hits baby? What if nanny's child acts out while mommy is feeding baby and draws all over your walls with markers?

I personally know a mother who hired a nanny who brought her own child. The nanny's child was a few months older than her charge, they were both toddlers. DD had many bumps and bruises at the end of the day, but her mom chalked it up to being a toddler. But after a while she began to wonder and set up visible cameras. It turned out that nanny's son was repeatedly hitting and pushing DD. They tried speaking to the nanny about their concerns, but the situation only got worse, and after nanny's son pushed DD down the stairs they finally came to their senses and fired her.

No, a nanny who brings her own child does not deserve the same pay as a nanny who doesn't bring a child, because the ratio of children to caregiver increases and therefore it is literally impossible for your child to be getting the 1:1 attention that makes nanny care so expensive in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would her pay be affected by whether or not she brings her child? She’s still doing the work.

This argument is so ridiculous I cringe every time I hear it. In childcare, you pay for the ratio. If you have one child then by hiring a nanny, the most expensive form of childcare, you are guaranteeing a 1:1 ratio (your child gets 100% of the caregivers attention), and you are paying for that, usually $20-25/hr.

If you are doing a nanny share with another family with one child the ratio is now 1:2 (your child is getting about 50% of the caregivers attention), and thus the cost goes down to roughly $12-15/hr per family.

If you enroll your child in daycare, where the ratios are much higher, 1:4 or 1:6, then again your cost goes down, to about $5-10/hr.

Maternal bias is a REAL thing. I see it regularly at the library and playground where I often see nannies with their charges and their own children. The nanny gives her own child more attention every time. If both kids are crying, who does she run to first?

So, if a nanny brings her own child, the ratio may be 1:2, but your child is likely getting even less than 50% of nanny's attention, since she will inherently favor her own child.

And especially with the age difference this is a bad plan for a million reasons. Is your home fully toddler proofed yet? Is nanny expecting you to provide a pack n play, extra high chair and double stroller to accommodate her child? What will happen when nanny's child is ill? When your own child is ill will nanny take the day off and expect to be paid for it so she doesn't risk getting her own child sick? Are you going to provide food for both nanny AND her child? Is your baby going to be expected just to nap on the go every morning so nanny's child can continue his usual routine? Is your baby going to spend twice as much time in a baby bjorn or stroller while nanny engages more directly with her own child?

What if nanny's child sees mommy taking care of a new baby and feels jealous and retaliates? What if nanny's child hits baby? What if nanny's child acts out while mommy is feeding baby and draws all over your walls with markers?

I personally know a mother who hired a nanny who brought her own child. The nanny's child was a few months older than her charge, they were both toddlers. DD had many bumps and bruises at the end of the day, but her mom chalked it up to being a toddler. But after a while she began to wonder and set up visible cameras. It turned out that nanny's son was repeatedly hitting and pushing DD. They tried speaking to the nanny about their concerns, but the situation only got worse, and after nanny's son pushed DD down the stairs they finally came to their senses and fired her.

No, a nanny who brings her own child does not deserve the same pay as a nanny who doesn't bring a child, because the ratio of children to caregiver increases and therefore it is literally impossible for your child to be getting the 1:1 attention that makes nanny care so expensive in the first place.

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[Anonymous]

You cannot afford a nanny but you want to hire one anyway.

You are paying under the table so you can “save” money.

You are hiring this nanny bc you, like many of these moms, believe if she brings her child she will not work as hard. So you justify a lower wage and compare it to a nanny share. When in reality you are hiring a nanny for your child who I assume you would want to be skilled. However, it isn’t a share bc she is not paying into it. What she is doing is providing a service to you and should be paid accordingly for that service. If you believe she isn’t going to perform it well bc she is bringing her child then why hire her. But alas, we come back to the argument so many of the moms present on this forum to justify paying someone low.

You want someone to help you justify paying her low bc she is bringing her child. So pay her between $12-$15 so you can save money and tell everyone you have a nanny.