Nanny share questions

[Anonymous]

Hello,

We are going to start a nanny share in Adams Morgan/Woodley Park soon and we had a couple of questions regarding the rates. We have two situations.

-In the beginning, there will be a 4 month baby and a 2 year old toddler. What is the fair rate that each family should pay? The nanny will make lunch, take them to their activities, empty the dishwasher and take out the the trash. She will also have to go back and forth between the two houses.

-Then one family will add its newborn (probably when he/she will be 1 month or less). The nanny at that point will care for 2 babies and a toddler. How much should the nanny earn per hour? How much each family should pay?

How much should she be paid if she works overtime for the family that has 2 kids(toddler and new born)?


Ps: The nanny has experience with twins and triplets and is ok with having two babies and a toddler. Also she will be full time

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Going back and forth between houses is an awful idea. The nanny share needs to be out of one house. In the beginning both parents split the cost 50/50. After the third child joins, whichever family has two children in the share pays 2/3 of the cost. If all three kids are from different families, each family pays 1/3. This is basic math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going back and forth between houses is an awful idea. The nanny share needs to be out of one house. In the beginning both parents split the cost 50/50. After the third child joins, whichever family has two children in the share pays 2/3 of the cost. If all three kids are from different families, each family pays 1/3. This is basic math.

Stunningly disruptive to the children. Also drop the dishwasher and trash duties - the nanny needs to spend her time engaging the THREE children and keeping them all safe and happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello,

We are going to start a nanny share in Adams Morgan/Woodley Park soon and we had a couple of questions regarding the rates. We have two situations.

-In the beginning, there will be a 4 month baby and a 2 year old toddler. What is the fair rate that each family should pay? The nanny will make lunch, take them to their activities, empty the dishwasher and take out the the trash. She will also have to go back and forth between the two houses.

-Then one family will add its newborn (probably when he/she will be 1 month or less). The nanny at that point will care for 2 babies and a toddler. How much should the nanny earn per hour? How much each family should pay?

How much should she be paid if she works overtime for the family that has 2 kids(toddler and new born)?


Ps: The nanny has experience with twins and triplets and is ok with having two babies and a toddler. Also she will be full time

Thanks in advance.

No, no and NO to the bolded. While some poor woman may agree to this, your children will suffer from her time away from them.


Don;' live in your area and don't know the rates but a nanny MUST be paid time and a half for overtime. And overtime depends on your state. (Here in California, overtime is after nine hours in one day on top of the usual 40 hours a week - so if a nanny works 10 hours just one day a week, she still must be paid overtime for that one hour).

[Anonymous]

-In the beginning, there will be a 4 month baby and a 2 year old toddler. What is the fair rate that each family should pay? The nanny will make lunch, take them to their activities, empty the dishwasher and take out the the trash. She will also have to go back and forth between the two houses.

-Then one family will add its newborn (probably when he/she will be 1 month or less). The nanny at that point will care for 2 babies and a toddler. How much should the nanny earn per hour? How much each family should pay?

The minimal "housekeeping" is not the challenge here, but 2 babies and a toddler? It's not a matter of $$, it's a matter of having enough energy, patience, and arms to manage three very young children. If this is five days a week for 9 hours plus, the nanny will be exhausted (even if she professes to be willing to do the job) and that means the quality of care for all three will suffer. The family with 2 kids would be better off hiring their own nanny in their own home. Or this nanny is going to need to have some help...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back and forth between houses is an awful idea. The nanny share needs to be out of one house. In the beginning both parents split the cost 50/50. After the third child joins, whichever family has two children in the share pays 2/3 of the cost. If all three kids are from different families, each family pays 1/3. This is basic math.

Stunningly disruptive to the children. Also drop the dishwasher and trash duties - the nanny needs to spend her time engaging the THREE children and keeping them all safe and happy.

Thank you for your responses. We will just make one family host so she does not have to go back and forth. Also, we will drop the light housekeeping. What about the rates? We already know how to split it. We just don't know how much it cost per hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

-In the beginning, there will be a 4 month baby and a 2 year old toddler. What is the fair rate that each family should pay? The nanny will make lunch, take them to their activities, empty the dishwasher and take out the the trash. She will also have to go back and forth between the two houses.

-Then one family will add its newborn (probably when he/she will be 1 month or less). The nanny at that point will care for 2 babies and a toddler. How much should the nanny earn per hour? How much each family should pay?

The minimal "housekeeping" is not the challenge here, but 2 babies and a toddler? It's not a matter of $$, it's a matter of having enough energy, patience, and arms to manage three very young children. If this is five days a week for 9 hours plus, the nanny will be exhausted (even if she professes to be willing to do the job) and that means the quality of care for all three will suffer. The family with 2 kids would be better off hiring their own nanny in their own home. Or this nanny is going to need to have some help...

She has been in a situation like this one in several occasions. She also took care of twins and triplets that were very little. We will just make one family host so she does not have to go back and forth. Also, we will drop the light housekeeping. What about the rates? We already know how to split it. We just don't know how much it cost per hour for two kids and for three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back and forth between houses is an awful idea. The nanny share needs to be out of one house. In the beginning both parents split the cost 50/50. After the third child joins, whichever family has two children in the share pays 2/3 of the cost. If all three kids are from different families, each family pays 1/3. This is basic math.

Stunningly disruptive to the children. Also drop the dishwasher and trash duties - the nanny needs to spend her time engaging the THREE children and keeping them all safe and happy.

I have read that if one family has 2 kids and the other has 1 the best split is 60-40 not 2/3 and in my opinion that makes more sense.

[Anonymous]

In this scenario, with your nanny with twin and triplet experience: $26/hr for 2 kids, $32/hr for 3 kids. Also I'd make CERTAIN that nanny has experience juggling children of different ages simultaneously. Taking care of triplets of any age is INFINITELY easier than caring for a two month old, a six month old, and a two year old at once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this scenario, with your nanny with twin and triplet experience: $26/hr for 2 kids, $32/hr for 3 kids. Also I'd make CERTAIN that nanny has experience juggling children of different ages simultaneously. Taking care of triplets of any age is INFINITELY easier than caring for a two month old, a six month old, and a two year old at once.

+ 1. Our nanny had fifteen years of experience caring for three sets of twins. DS was the first single of her career. DS was 2 and a few months when DD was born and neither she nor I could handle both kids alone. Baby had colic and DS never sits down.

[Anonymous]

This sounds like an exhausting job. I'd say the 2 child rate should be at least $24-$26. We were in a share that started with a 4 month old and a 2.5 year old--we just split it evenly because each age has their own challenges. So during the two child share it's $12-$13 an hour plus time and a half over 40 hours, taxes, etc. When the other baby joins I would say 3 child rate should be at least $28-32 with the family with two kids bearing the increase so $12-13 for the one child and then $16-$19 for the two child family. Don't forget to get a workman's comp policy. How will she get out with the kids to "take them to activities"? Especially with a one month old?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back and forth between houses is an awful idea. The nanny share needs to be out of one house. In the beginning both parents split the cost 50/50. After the third child joins, whichever family has two children in the share pays 2/3 of the cost. If all three kids are from different families, each family pays 1/3. This is basic math.

Stunningly disruptive to the children. Also drop the dishwasher and trash duties - the nanny needs to spend her time engaging the THREE children and keeping them all safe and happy.

I have read that if one family has 2 kids and the other has 1 the best split is 60-40 not 2/3 and in my opinion that makes more sense.

No, 2/3 and 1/3, why should the family with one child supplement the other family.

[Anonymous]

This sounds like an exhausting job. I'd say the 2 child rate should be at least $24-$26. We were in a share that started with a 4 month old and a 2.5 year old--we just split it evenly because each age has their own challenges. So during the two child share it's $12-$13 an hour plus time and a half over 40 hours, taxes, etc. When the other baby joins I would say 3 child rate should be at least $28-32 with the family with two kids bearing the increase so $12-13 for the one child and then $16-$19 for the two child family. Don't forget to get a workman's comp policy. How will she get out with the kids to "take them to activities"? Especially with a one month old?

I doubt paying $32/$48 for OT is not going to guarantee quality care for these children. Better to hire a part-time helper for a while for the busier part of the day (mornings?) to assist the nanny. That way, the older child can go to an activity once in a while and they might be able to go to a park within walking distance all together (unless one of the families is providing a vehicle with three car seats).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going back and forth between houses is an awful idea. The nanny share needs to be out of one house. In the beginning both parents split the cost 50/50. After the third child joins, whichever family has two children in the share pays 2/3 of the cost. If all three kids are from different families, each family pays 1/3. This is basic math.

Stunningly disruptive to the children. Also drop the dishwasher and trash duties - the nanny needs to spend her time engaging the THREE children and keeping them all safe and happy.

I have read that if one family has 2 kids and the other has 1 the best split is 60-40 not 2/3 and in my opinion that makes more sense.

No, 2/3 and 1/3, why should the family with one child supplement the other family.

It's really tough to find the sweet spot for a 2:1 nanny share. The issue with 2/3 and 1/3 is that a nanny doesn't get paid twice as much for two
Kids as for one. So that doesn't reflect the market at all. For example, let she say the nanny gets a solid three kid rate of $33/hr. If one family pays $11/hr for one kid, they are getting a great deal. The other family's $22/hr isn't that far off a reasonable two child rate for a single nanny.

[Anonymous]

How old is 2 yo?

How committed are you all to sleep training?

I am a nanny who has done multiples, 5 kids under 9, and infant twins and toddler sib and this sounds like a terrible idea to me. I think you and nanny are really underestimating the difficulty level here. Could you put toddler in part-time preschool and have nanny pick up?

Because her day will include:
A newborn who wants to eat/have a diaper change every 2 hours and whose naps schedule is still falling into place and requires a lot of consistency
An older infant with a different nap schedule that is emerging and who needs to eat around that schedule and who will be old enough to know/be jealous when another kid is getting a bottle
An energetic 2yo who will need to be active all morning before a nap during which he/she will need quiet so that he/she can rest without babies screaming