How to handle hourly pay when child is at school?

[Anonymous]

If you paid me a lower rate after you agree to give me the first rate at a higher rate, I'd walk. I bet she will too. Way to go, stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who doesn’t understand. You pay for her availability in an emergency, on sick days, school holidays & breaks, as well as summer. Trying to piecemeal that all together is hard. If you can afford it, a nanny is a solid option.

OP, it may be a little late to discuss with this nanny, or she may ask for more money, but most nannies tend to household tasks during school hours: meal prep, craft prep, car maintenance, kid’s laundry, grocery shopping, etc.

I am the poster with three kids and I really haven't found emergencies, sick days or school holidays to be hard to manage. They are typically known far ahead of time. And while they take some money to manage, it definitely doesn't take an annual salary of a full-time nanny. On school breaks, especially summertime, most kids want to be in camp, not with nanny.

You know when emergencies and sick days will occur, far ahead of time? That is amazing!

Me, I know a sick day is going to occur when 5yo vomits at 6:20 AM, but that's just me.

[Anonymous]

Op, what terms of employment did you use when you hired her?

You can't change it now.

[Anonymous]

Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

Nanny here, currently being paid while the kids are in school. Not twiddling my thumbs, but laying in bed. My employers are high level professionals and can’t just take days off work whenever the kids are off, so I’m paid to be on call. My time is my time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

As a nanny, I don’t get compensated to “keep busy”. I was chosen to provide the best age-appropriate care/education money can buy.

If you hired a cleaning lady, I guess you’d want her to keep busy so you get your money’s worth.

Different parents obviously may have different priorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the poster who doesn’t understand. You pay for her availability in an emergency, on sick days, school holidays & breaks, as well as summer. Trying to piecemeal that all together is hard. If you can afford it, a nanny is a solid option.

OP, it may be a little late to discuss with this nanny, or she may ask for more money, but most nannies tend to household tasks during school hours: meal prep, craft prep, car maintenance, kid’s laundry, grocery shopping, etc.

I am the poster with three kids and I really haven't found emergencies, sick days or school holidays to be hard to manage. They are typically known far ahead of time. And while they take some money to manage, it definitely doesn't take an annual salary of a full-time nanny. On school breaks, especially summertime, most kids want to be in camp, not with nanny.

You know when emergencies and sick days will occur, far ahead of time? That is amazing!

Me, I know a sick day is going to occur when 5yo vomits at 6:20 AM, but that's just me.

I haven't had difficulty managing this myself. That's what sick leave is for. White-collar jobs typically come with ample leave allowance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

As a nanny, I don’t get compensated to “keep busy”. I was chosen to provide the best age-appropriate care/education money can buy.

If you hired a cleaning lady, I guess you’d want her to keep busy so you get your money’s worth.

Different parents obviously may have different priorities.

With a school-age child who spends only an hour or two with the nanny per day, the nanny's role in educating the child is by now secondary.

That's why I asked OP why she decided to hire a full-time nanny when her child is so clearly aging out of nanny care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

Nanny here, currently being paid while the kids are in school. Not twiddling my thumbs, but laying in bed. My employers are high level professionals and can’t just take days off work whenever the kids are off, so I’m paid to be on call. My time is my time.

It's not really your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

I’m very, very flexible about what goes into my contract. However, I make it crystal clear that we’re not going to add tasks willy-nilly, unless we’re also adding more compensation, unless the schedule is freeing up those hours as well. I’ve NEVER had an issue with my employers pushing boundaries, but that’s likely because we have a great contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

As a nanny, I don’t get compensated to “keep busy”. I was chosen to provide the best age-appropriate care/education money can buy.

If you hired a cleaning lady, I guess you’d want her to keep busy so you get your money’s worth.

Different parents obviously may have different priorities.

With a school-age child who spends only an hour or two with the nanny per day, the nanny's role in educating the child is by now secondary.

That's why I asked OP why she decided to hire a full-time nanny when her child is so clearly aging out of nanny care.

A seven year old isn’t aging out of afternoon and evening nanny care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

As long as those were put in the contract, it’s great. If not, no...

If an employee thinks they’re going to be paid to sit and twiddle their thumbs they’ll quickly find themselves not paid while twiddling their thumbs.

As a nanny, I don’t get compensated to “keep busy”. I was chosen to provide the best age-appropriate care/education money can buy.

If you hired a cleaning lady, I guess you’d want her to keep busy so you get your money’s worth.

Different parents obviously may have different priorities.

With a school-age child who spends only an hour or two with the nanny per day, the nanny's role in educating the child is by now secondary.

That's why I asked OP why she decided to hire a full-time nanny when her child is so clearly aging out of nanny care.

A seven year old isn’t aging out of afternoon and evening nanny care.

OP said it’s an hour or two after school until she gets home. That’s a ....very generous proportion between doing nothing and doing something, greatly in favor of nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give her child related tasks around the house and errands like laundry, food shopping, cleaning and organizing toys while child in school.

Cleaning grocery shopping, laundry are mot child related and you have no right to require.