Why do most Parents here feel entitled to Cheap Elite Childcare (Nanny Care)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.

Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.

Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?

I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.

I think I love you. Thank you for this post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by entitled? If some one posts a job with the salary range and applicants apply, is this being more entitled than any other employer posting a job, reviewing candidates, and offering it to the top pick?

Agreed. The average nanny salary is what it is. If you want to make more money, go into a higher paying profession.

Yeah, this. I made $33,000 a year right out of college. I got a masters degree, a series of jobs with increasing responsibility, and 10 years later I'm making $63,000. Not awesome, but the point is, I wasn't complaining about my initial salary and claiming I should make more. I went after a job with a higher salary.

Sometimes an employer would prefer to pay more in order to keep you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by entitled? If some one posts a job with the salary range and applicants apply, is this being more entitled than any other employer posting a job, reviewing candidates, and offering it to the top pick?

Agreed. The average nanny salary is what it is. If you want to make more money, go into a higher paying profession.

Yeah, this. I made $33,000 a year right out of college. I got a masters degree, a series of jobs with increasing responsibility, and 10 years later I'm making $63,000. Not awesome, but the point is, I wasn't complaining about my initial salary and claiming I should make more. I went after a job with a higher salary.

Sometimes an employer would prefer to pay more in order to keep you.

Huh? Employers pay what the job is worth, not what an employee demands.

[Anonymous]

Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

+1 I have to agree with the nanny on this one. The early years are the foundation for a child's security -- and childcare givers are a huge part of this. You children will survive, Of course, your children would survive if you (the mother) dropped dead -- but that would not be optimum, would it? It is important to hire and keep the right nanny for your family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is up with some of the nannies on this board? Elite nannies are caring and do this kind of work because they feel it is a calling and not work...Why all the bitter questions and topics getting started, it seems like this is coming from one angry nanny who sounds like they need to get out of the nanny profession and get some professional help.

Many of us do indeed love our work, but make no mistake. It is work.

Do any parents here not earn a living, just because they love their work?

I'm not sure what you mean by some one not earning a living. Are you referring to the $15/hr thread? $15/hr at 40 hr/wk is 31k, and at 50 hr/wk with OT, it's 43k. That's the starting range for Architect. Are you saying architects, receptionists, and others earning $15/hr aren't making a living? That is what a third of American households, not just individuals, earn. If that nanny is the only member of her household, that she's with 1/3 of Americans. If she's one of two earners, then her HHI is at or above the median for American families. I know it's not much, but to say it's on par with making nothing - I don't know what to say to that. If you ever lived off less, maybe you'll have a different perspective.

Do you think being a nanny should be considered a starter job, not a longterm profession? Low pay is appropriate for bottom rung workers, including brand new architects.

Nannies are like all other professions. When they start out, they'll get a starter rate. When they get more experienced, they get a better rate. Eventually, like all jobs, they hit a pay ceiling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

+1 I have to agree with the nanny on this one. The early years are the foundation for a child's security -- and childcare givers are a huge part of this. You children will survive, Of course, your children would survive if you (the mother) dropped dead -- but that would not be optimum, would it? It is important to hire and keep the right nanny for your family.

I don't remember any of my caregivers. I am just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

+1 I have to agree with the nanny on this one. The early years are the foundation for a child's security -- and childcare givers are a huge part of this. You children will survive, Of course, your children would survive if you (the mother) dropped dead -- but that would not be optimum, would it? It is important to hire and keep the right nanny for your family.

I don't remember any of my caregivers. I am just fine.

Do you have any idea how many primary caregivers you had? What have your parents told you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

+1 I have to agree with the nanny on this one. The early years are the foundation for a child's security -- and childcare givers are a huge part of this. You children will survive, Of course, your children would survive if you (the mother) dropped dead -- but that would not be optimum, would it? It is important to hire and keep the right nanny for your family.

I don't remember any of my caregivers. I am just fine.

Do you have any idea how many primary caregivers you had? What have your parents told you?

I've had one primary caregiver, my mother. She worked full-time.

During the day, I was in a daycare center that moved children in small groups to a new classroom every year. That means I must have had 5 or 6 caregivers before I started school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

+1 I have to agree with the nanny on this one. The early years are the foundation for a child's security -- and childcare givers are a huge part of this. You children will survive, Of course, your children would survive if you (the mother) dropped dead -- but that would not be optimum, would it? It is important to hire and keep the right nanny for your family.

I don't remember any of my caregivers. I am just fine.

Do you have any idea how many primary caregivers you had? What have your parents told you?

I've had one primary caregiver, my mother. She worked full-time.

During the day, I was in a daycare center that moved children in small groups to a new classroom every year. That means I must have had 5 or 6 caregivers before I started school.

Prepare to be told how deeply scarred you must be. Or how children in daycare can magically weather transitions that children with nannies can't. And, of course, how your working mom was by definition therefore not your primary caregiver.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some parents know that stability of care is critical during the earliest stages of their child's life, hence "the foundation years." They'll do almost anything to avoid unnecessary nanny switching. They understand the probable consequences from to many broken attachments, especially with primary caregivers.

Wishful thinking.

If we have to get through a nanny transition I'm sure my kids will be sad and then they will be just fine.

Perfect. Let's not lose any sleep over the severed attachments. Isn't there a book written by adults who still remember their beloved nannies? Sorry I don't recall the title. The reality might be more than you can handle, so keep your busy little head in the sand.

+1 I have to agree with the nanny on this one. The early years are the foundation for a child's security -- and childcare givers are a huge part of this. You children will survive, Of course, your children would survive if you (the mother) dropped dead -- but that would not be optimum, would it? It is important to hire and keep the right nanny for your family.

I don't remember any of my caregivers. I am just fine.

Do you have any idea how many primary caregivers you had? What have your parents told you?

I've had one primary caregiver, my mother. She worked full-time.

During the day, I was in a daycare center that moved children in small groups to a new classroom every year. That means I must have had 5 or 6 caregivers before I started school.

The primary caregiver is the person who provides the majority of hours of actual "hands on" care during your waking hours. Your mother paid the daycare workers to be your primary caregivers.

[Anonymous]

I'm a nanny and while I don't believe or agree with half if these nannies bitching on here, I see your point on this.

I saw a post the other day. The parents wanted a nanny for 50-55 hr/wk for a 3 month old and a 2.5 year old. The nanny was expected to do all child-related cleaning ( as she should) but also empty/load dishwasher, meal prep for entire family 3-4x a week, take & feed dogs 2x a day ( 2 dogs), grocery shop for family 2x a week, towels and linens for family 1x a week, and keep house tidy.

They asked for a nanny who was college educated ( bachelor's degree), vaccinated, physically fit, and 5+ experience. The were offering a weekly salary of $300 - 350.

Most nannies won't do that much work and if they do, they are heavy compensated for it.

I work for a family who pays me well but I understand that I am not ENTITLED to pay just because I feel I am. I am in grad school where I will making $100,000+. You can't be a nanny and expect a 50,000+ salary. Pick another career if you want that salary.

[Anonymous]

Working mothers can also be caregivers, if that's what they do.