ONLY 5 day a week Live-in. Pay? Live-out Weekends/Sick days/Holidays/Vacations.

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Anonymous wrote:If she has her own residence she is a live-out nanny.

+1. If she is required to maintain a separate residence, she is considered a live-out nanny who is on duty 24hours/day; 4.5 days/week. Overtime is required by law, though I believe you are allotted the 8 hours of no pay if baby doesn't wake. You should be paying an on call fee, but legally do not have to. Your annual salary is a bit low for what you are asking.

I agree you should pay an on call rate the nights the child stays sleeping. The nanny can't leave, can't have friends over or a BF/GF over, can't do anything on those nights.

Can I ask OP (if your still reading these) why you need the nanny at night too, if the child does sleep? I did read a few posts back about the celebrities and their live ins and all the blah, blah. But I'm guessing OP is not a celebrity?? I have worked for celebrities (including A-listers who had a handful of 24 hour nannies) & have friends who work for celebrities. They normally go to the big agencies and get all the advice they need from them.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks in most part for the responses thus far.

We are currently unable to have someone live-in on the weekend. Yes this is a technically a 24hr/4.5 day position. But my LO, 9/10 nights will sleep without a peep! If she does wake-up and the nanny has to tend to her, I will pay for that time. But under the law, if she is able to sleep 8hrs uninterrupted, I am able to to pay her only for 16hrs out of 24hr period. The DOL made this very clear.

Thank goodness for that stipulation, because we probably could not afford to offer such a good rate 24 hours a day.

Is this considered a live-in or live-out position?

Reading many posts, it appears that $20 for one child is pretty great. She will have no other housekeeping duties, only after the child.

I would consider this a live-out position, since I still have to pay for my own apartment, so I would expect to be paid as live-out nanny, including overtime.

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OP here- thanks again for the responses. We just moved from NY where a 24hr/ or 5 day live in (2 day live out) was very was very common. The pay rate there was 200-500 a day. So I thought 300+ was being very generous especially in this area that is not as expensive as NY. I think if I gave a flat rate for the overnights, I would have to do that off the books, correct? Because on payroll it wouldn't match up with hourly pay and base rate.

My partner and I have overlapping working schedules, and I have a sleeping condition what makes it necessary or convenient to have someone else here.

I'm not paying a horrible wage- it's one child, who is sleeping for 15hrs (with naps) of a 24hr period. If I raised the salary to $85,000- would this be more appealing?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks again for the responses. We just moved from NY where a 24hr/ or 5 day live in (2 day live out) was very was very common. The pay rate there was 200-500 a day. So I thought 300+ was being very generous especially in this area that is not as expensive as NY. I think if I gave a flat rate for the overnights, I would have to do that off the books, correct? Because on payroll it wouldn't match up with hourly pay and base rate.

My partner and I have overlapping working schedules, and I have a sleeping condition what makes it necessary or convenient to have someone else here.

I'm not paying a horrible wage- it's one child, who is sleeping for 15hrs (with naps) of a 24hr period. If I raised the salary to $85,000- would this be more appealing?

What is the point of having them live out and spend the money for their own place 2 days a week? Are you having another nanny? That makes no sense. You need to pay for all the hours working, including sleep if they are on duty.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks again for the responses. We just moved from NY where a 24hr/ or 5 day live in (2 day live out) was very was very common. The pay rate there was 200-500 a day. So I thought 300+ was being very generous especially in this area that is not as expensive as NY. I think if I gave a flat rate for the overnights, I would have to do that off the books, correct? Because on payroll it wouldn't match up with hourly pay and base rate.

My partner and I have overlapping working schedules, and I have a sleeping condition what makes it necessary or convenient to have someone else here.

I'm not paying a horrible wage- it's one child, who is sleeping for 15hrs (with naps) of a 24hr period. If I raised the salary to $85,000- would this be more appealing?

I think with regard to the legalities, you'd have to technically structure the contract and taxes so that it was an equal rate over all the hours (with overtime as needed).

I would advertise it with your weekly rate and weekly hourly requirements to make it clear to the nanny what the pay/hours are. So rather than saying "$16/hr for awake hours, $75 flat fee for 8 sleeping hours, overtime as necessary." I would say "$X/Week for 120 hours/week" It just makes it very clear what the pay and expectations are.

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Op are you going to provide a car for the nanny to use? Can she use it 5 days or all 7 days ?

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OP, right now this situation is not a live in because she still has to maintain a separate apt. Can you make it a full live in position with her being off on the weekends? Will also work to your advantage regarding overtime issues.

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I am in the camp of thinking that people that have 24 hr nannies are incredibly odd. I would lump celebrities in there too. Who cares if there happen to be tons of these people in NY. Does not make it any more normal for a parent to have someone else taking care of their child literally the entire week long.
- WOHM with nanny

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have you found someone as of yet am interested thanks

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Most 24 hour position do require you to live out on your days off because they have someone else living in and working those days. I've had my own place in all of the 24 hour positions I've held.

OP, since you have moved to an area where the 24 hour nanny is less common, you will probably have a harder time finding someone. My advice always is if you are interviewing and not getting the quality you want then you have to look at the package you are offering. You may find someone great for $300/day, but you won't know until you start your search.

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I think you will find many great candidates at $300 in this area!!! That is a lot of money for just playing with a kid and sleeping.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you will find many great candidates at $300 in this area!!! That is a lot of money for just playing with a kid and sleeping.

And never being free to do anything else. Can't meet friends for drinks. Can't run out to a movie. Go on dates. Spend the night with your boyfriend. You'd basically become the parent 5 days a week, and can't hire a sitter, because guess what? You're it! You'd have to maintain your own residence, but can't sleep there at night because you are actually on duty, yet OP thinks its cool to not pay you for it? If you aren't paying me for it, and I have my own home, why the hell would I want to sleep at work?

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I think OP is actually being very generous with pay and benefits. Nannies in this area complain that the wages are too low. There is one MB on this board that is only willing to pay 30k for a non live in for two kids. 80k is a huge amount of money, especially since it's only a 4.5 day job, and food is paid for during those days. That's like an extra $50 a day. Nannies are unskilled labor, no education needed- and to get 80k is amazing! I have a law degree, and I didn't get a job paying over 80k in this area until 7 years after law school.

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Anonymous wrote:I think OP is actually being very generous with pay and benefits. Nannies in this area complain that the wages are too low. There is one MB on this board that is only willing to pay 30k for a non live in for two kids. 80k is a huge amount of money, especially since it's only a 4.5 day job, and food is paid for during those days. That's like an extra $50 a day. Nannies are unskilled labor, no education needed- and to get 80k is amazing! I have a law degree, and I didn't get a job paying over 80k in this area until 7 years after law school.

Actually, given that that MB was looking for 43 hours, and this MB is looking for a total of 120 hours (24 hours a day times the five days a week she's asking for), she'd actually need to be paying closer to $84,000 just to be comparable to that other job. And if you notice, everyone on that thread agreed it was not enough and that she'd need to be paying more to be competitive. That MB then politely agreed and decided nanny care probably wasn't for their family.

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What is the point of the nanny having her own place? Only going there on the weekends?