I know it's a law, but why? RSS feed

post reply Forum Index » General Discussion
[Post New]04/17/2013 09:42
quote
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP, why do you have a live-in then?


Because I thought it would be good for my situation. Turns out its more hassle that its worth. There are TWO sides to everything, just wanted to make that point.

No one has a live-in because they feel sorry for the nanny. Live-ins are a convienence for the family. Period.


WRONG
[Post New]04/17/2013 09:43
quote
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I only "live-in" M-F, but pay for my own monthly rent, and stay at my apartment on the weekends...am I considered a live-in, and thus except from overtime?

The truth is that live-ins are an enormous convienence for parents, not nannies.


I dont agree with this. I have a live in and its a pain in the butt.


And it's a walk in the park for your nanny. What's a pain in the butt about it? Having someone at your beck and call? Getting to pay crap wages for the chance to have someone at your beck and call? Getting to set rules about how someone lives their life but also getting to charge them to live with you and abide by your rules (not to mention the freedom to make the rules as silly and intrusive as you please because its your house, even though they pay to live there)? Oh wait I know what's a pain in the butt! It's having to share a space with someone who PAYS you to live there, and to feed someone who PAYS you to do so with their labor, or is it the lack of privacy from someone you hired to live with you? Waaah it must be awful not getting EVERYTHING thing exactly the way you want it. Live-ins should have to deduct room and board from their wages, but should also behave more like robots where they don't eat anything, do anything you didn't tell them to do, and you can turn them on and off as you please. She should also remember to thank you for the privilege to work/live with you daily as well.


What if the "labor" they do sucks? What if they are annoying to live with. Get over yourself
[Post New]04/17/2013 09:43
quote
Anonymous
I will not be a live-in nanny anymore. If they don't want to let me live-out, you know they want to take advantage of you. Red flag!
[Post New]04/17/2013 09:59
quote
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Live-in nannies are being forced to pay for the privilege of never going home. How would you like to move into your office, and then have your salary cut for this "privilege"?


I wouldn't do it. Simple as that. But if I decided to, I would not complain and compare it to slavery. That’s just ridiculous. You're an adult and if you are unhappy at your job, quit. I'm just so sick of EVERYONE complaining that they are over worked and under paid. It’s not just nannies, its EVERYONE.


Not EVERYONE I'd supported by the government and its laws to pay non exempt hourly employees OT, or not at all!!!! The government is totally cool with nannies working for NO pay (8hr ON duty "sleeping" hours). How many other professions does our government do that for?
[Post New]04/17/2013 10:00
quote
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If I only "live-in" M-F, but pay for my own monthly rent, and stay at my apartment on the weekends...am I considered a live-in, and thus except from overtime?

The truth is that live-ins are an enormous convienence for parents, not nannies.


I dont agree with this. I have a live in and its a pain in the butt.


And it's a walk in the park for your nanny. What's a pain in the butt about it? Having someone at your beck and call? Getting to pay crap wages for the chance to have someone at your beck and call? Getting to set rules about how someone lives their life but also getting to charge them to live with you and abide by your rules (not to mention the freedom to make the rules as silly and intrusive as you please because its your house, even though they pay to live there)? Oh wait I know what's a pain in the butt! It's having to share a space with someone who PAYS you to live there, and to feed someone who PAYS you to do so with their labor, or is it the lack of privacy from someone you hired to live with you? Waaah it must be awful not getting EVERYTHING thing exactly the way you want it. Live-ins should have to deduct room and board from their wages, but should also behave more like robots where they don't eat anything, do anything you didn't tell them to do, and you can turn them on and off as you please. She should also remember to thank you for the privilege to work/live with you daily as well.


What if the "labor" they do sucks? What if they are annoying to live with. Get over yourself


Then you fire them. But if they are legit at their job, everything you're giving up to have them there was not only a choice you made for the convenience of having a live in nanny, but she is paying for it through reduced wages and her own lack of privacy autonomy and and the annoyance of living with your family. News flash, most people, especially people you aren't related to are annoying as hell to live with.
[Post New]04/17/2013 10:03
quote
Anonymous
Live-ins should be paid MORE, not less. Who wants to be at your job 24/7
[Post New]04/17/2013 11:18
quote
Anonymous
My sister was a live in nanny for 2 years after she graduated. She went on to become to an elementary school teacher. She loved the experience because it gave her a chance to move to an expensive, metro area far away for a few years without much risk or cost. She saved what she made since she didn't have living expenses and it gave her a change to replenish her savings after college. She got to go on vacations to beach resorts and Europe which she couldn't have afforded on her own. She speaks very highly of the experience.

I think its safe to say that their are benefits and drawbacks for BOTH employers and nannies for a live in situation. It isn't one sided and it isn't for everyone. Some employers would hate dealing with the nanny living in their house and some nannies would hate living in their employer's house. The nannies on this board need to stop being crazy and thinking that any amount of differential money overcomes situations that aren't mutually beneficial. The last person an employer should hire is someone who doesn't want to be a live in or doesn't see the value in it doing it but is applying because they can't find anything else. You would never want to pay extra for this person because they aren't going to be happy with the experience anyway.
[Post New]04/17/2013 12:15
quote
ScarletIbis

Member when-present<#else>when-missing. (These only cover the last step of the expression; to cover the whole expression, use parenthesis: (myOptionalVar.foo)!myDefault, (myOptionalVar.foo)?? ---- ---- FTL stack trace ("~" means nesting-related): - Failed at: ${avatarMaxHeight} [in template "default/post_show_user_inc.htm" at line 22, column 107] - Reached through: #include "post_show_user_inc.htm" [in template "default/post_show.htm" at line 109, column 33] ---- Java stack trace (for programmers): ---- freemarker.core.InvalidReferenceException: [... Exception message was already printed; see it above ...] at freemarker.core.InvalidReferenceException.getInstance(InvalidReferenceException.java:131) at freemarker.core.EvalUtil.coerceModelToString(EvalUtil.java:355) at freemarker.core.Expression.evalAndCoerceToString(Expression.java:82) at freemarker.core.DollarVariable.accept(DollarVariable.java:41) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:54) at freemarker.core.Environment.visitByHiddingParent(Environment.java:345) at freemarker.core.ConditionalBlock.accept(ConditionalBlock.java:48) at freemarker.core.Environment.visitByHiddingParent(Environment.java:345) at freemarker.core.IfBlock.accept(IfBlock.java:48) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:54) at freemarker.core.Environment.visitByHiddingParent(Environment.java:345) at freemarker.core.ConditionalBlock.accept(ConditionalBlock.java:48) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:54) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.Environment.include(Environment.java:2072) at freemarker.core.Include.accept(Include.java:167) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:54) at freemarker.core.Environment.visitByHiddingParent(Environment.java:345) at freemarker.core.IteratorBlock$IterationContext.executeNestedBlockInner(IteratorBlock.java:240) at freemarker.core.IteratorBlock$IterationContext.executeNestedBlock(IteratorBlock.java:220) at freemarker.core.IteratorBlock$IterationContext.accept(IteratorBlock.java:194) at freemarker.core.Environment.visitIteratorBlock(Environment.java:572) at freemarker.core.IteratorBlock.acceptWithResult(IteratorBlock.java:78) at freemarker.core.IteratorBlock.accept(IteratorBlock.java:64) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:54) at freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:324) at freemarker.core.Environment.process(Environment.java:302) at freemarker.template.Template.process(Template.java:325) at net.jforum.JForum.processCommand(JForum.java:233) at net.jforum.JForum.service(JForum.java:200) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:623) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:210) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:154) at org.apache.tomcat.websocket.server.WsFilter.doFilter(WsFilter.java:51) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:179) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:154) at net.jforum.util.legacy.clickstream.ClickstreamFilter.doFilter(ClickstreamFilter.java:59) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:179) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:154) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:168) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:90) at org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:481) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:130) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:93) at org.apache.catalina.valves.AbstractAccessLogValve.invoke(AbstractAccessLogValve.java:670) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:74) at org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:346) at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProcessor.service(AjpProcessor.java:424) at org.apache.coyote.AbstractProcessorLight.process(AbstractProcessorLight.java:63) at org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol$ConnectionHandler.process(AbstractProtocol.java:928) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.NioEndpoint$SocketProcessor.doRun(NioEndpoint.java:1786) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SocketProcessorBase.run(SocketProcessorBase.java:52) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1191) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:659) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.TaskThread$WrappingRunnable.run(TaskThread.java:63) at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:840) I know it's a law, but why?

Forum Index
Information
 

An error has occurred.

For detailed error information, please see the HTML source code, and contact the forum Administrator.

The following has evaluated to null or missing:
== avatarMaxHeight  [in template "default/post_show_user_inc.htm" at line 22, column 109]

----
Tip: If the failing expression is known to be legally refer to something that's sometimes null or missing, either specify a default value like myOptionalVar!myDefault, or use #if myOptionalVar??when-present#elsewhen-missing/#if. (These only cover the last step of the expression; to cover the whole expression, use parenthesis: (myOptionalVar.foo)!myDefault, (myOptionalVar.foo)??
----

----
FTL stack trace ("~" means nesting-related):
	- Failed at: ${avatarMaxHeight}  [in template "default/post_show_user_inc.htm" at line 22, column 107]
	- Reached through: #include "post_show_user_inc.htm"  [in template "default/post_show.htm" at line 109, column 33]
----
 
Forum Index

Search   Recent Topics   Hottest Topics  

Go to Original Site