going from one family to share--what raise? RSS feed

Anonymous
our older child will be in school f/t and aftercare, and our younger child will start in a share. We have had our nanny 2 years and she has received 2 raises of 1$ each. For starting a share, we would raise her again (mid year, when the share starts)--does a 1.50/hr raise sound right? She will be taking care of 2 toddlers. 50 hours/week. we would start the clock over in september, so her next raise would be on the anniversary of the share.
Anonymous
What is she earning now and what are you proposing for Sept? How will it be during your older child's sick/vacation days?
Anonymous
I would never do a share for an extra $1.50/hr. How can you even propose that with a straight face? Would you get excited about that kind of raise to double your workload? I can't imagine any nanny being that naive. Some of them really get taken advantage of.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:our older child will be in school f/t and aftercare, and our younger child will start in a share. We have had our nanny 2 years and she has received 2 raises of 1$ each. For starting a share, we would raise her again (mid year, when the share starts)--does a 1.50/hr raise sound right? She will be taking care of 2 toddlers. 50 hours/week. we would start the clock over in september, so her next raise would be on the anniversary of the share.


OP, what is the nanny currently earning? I cannot believe you think $1.50 for an extra child is acceptable. I'm hoping you are new to this and just don't understand nanny shares and how the pay works. What nanny in their right mind would take on double the work for an extra $1.50 an hour? Please do your homework and talk to other families. You said you have had your nanny for 2 years so you are obviously happy with her and have the confidence that she would be able to handle two toddlers full time. Each family should be paying at least $10 an hour, with overtime for anything over the 40 hours a week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:our older child will be in school f/t and aftercare, and our younger child will start in a share. We have had our nanny 2 years and she has received 2 raises of 1$ each. For starting a share, we would raise her again (mid year, when the share starts)--does a 1.50/hr raise sound right? She will be taking care of 2 toddlers. 50 hours/week. we would start the clock over in september, so her next raise would be on the anniversary of the share.


OP, what is the nanny currently earning? I cannot believe you think $1.50 for an extra child is acceptable. I'm hoping you are new to this and just don't understand nanny shares and how the pay works. What nanny in their right mind would take on double the work for an extra $1.50 an hour? Please do your homework and talk to other families. You said you have had your nanny for 2 years so you are obviously happy with her and have the confidence that she would be able to handle two toddlers full time. Each family should be paying at least $10 an hour, with overtime for anything over the 40 hours a week.

Agreed. Childcare is pricey when it's not family or friends doing it for you at a discount or free.
Share nannies should be earning close to 25. if they're doing a good job. A new nanny would not have the required skills/experience to do it well.
Anonymous
The OP is probably right in line with salary since the nanny has had 2 years of $1 raises. Its best to approach this as a new negotiation, new contract, and new rate. You'll need to work out a number of share provisions anyway.

It may also make sense to get a new nanny. Nannies can get very used to the last year with less work from older kids and higher salary from annual raises (quite backwards IMO). No matter what you give her she may be the type that is still grouchy about any additional work opposed to a new nanny who is excited to start a new job.
Anonymous
Share rates are generally around 1/3 higher than normal nanny rates. So that each family pays 2/3 what they would pay for their own nanny and nanny earns 4/3 the normal rate to compensate her for the additional child/requests of an additional family.

Say for instance your nanny was already earning $18/hr. her share rate would be $24, with each family only paying $12.
Anonymous
Nice try. Share rates are not $24. Families who do shares are already more price conscious. I know several families with shares in DC that pay combined $15-$18. The highest that I have ever heard of an actual person paying is $20.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Share rates are not $24. Families who do shares are already more price conscious. I know several families with shares in DC that pay combined $15-$18. The highest that I have ever heard of an actual person paying is $20.


Wrong. My neighbor hosts a nanny share in her home for 2 infants and the nanny gets paid $22 an hour. There are many nannies that make over $20 an hour for a nanny share. The families paying $7.50-$9.00 each for their nannies probably have nannies who don't speak English, are uneducated, and are desperate for a job. Most nanny shares I know of, the families each pay at least $9-10 an hour.

Example: Familes A and B start a share when their children are 3 months old. Each family pays $10 an hour.
A year later the nanny gets a raise. Each family now pays 10.50 an hour. Another year, another .50 cents. By the time the children are 4 the nanny could be making $23-25 an hour.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Share rates are not $24. Families who do shares are already more price conscious. I know several families with shares in DC that pay combined $15-$18. The highest that I have ever heard of an actual person paying is $20.

Why don't you take your head out of the sand? Some nannies earn 25 for ONE child. People who can afford it don't care about you and your fantasies. Share nannies earn whatever they and their employers agree to. You have no power over them and to pretend otherwise is childish and a waste of our time here. If YOU can't afford it, that's fine. Not everyone can afford the biggest house on the block either. It's ok.
Anonymous
OP, I think what you pay depends on where you started, but also is generally within a range. That is, if your nanny started at $15, and now makes $17 after two raises, it makes sense to pay her in the range of $20-22 per hour to start with room for raises. Most shares I've seen pay in the $18-22 range ($9-12 per hour per family), as does mine, but if the nanny is already making $17, just offering to pay $18.50 or so isn't going to be terribly attractive for the additional headache of two families to deal with and another child in the mix. That's not to say you bump the nanny up to $24 right off, but leave room to go that high or more if she is doing a great job.
Anonymous
Sorry, I meant 18-24 above.
Anonymous
Prior posters seem to be missing the fact that one of OP's children will be in school and aftercare full time. Therefore, converting to a share and taking on another family's child doesn't double the workload, it just means that the workload is now coming from two different families instead of one.

Share arrangements usually mean the nanny gets a hassle premium (e.g. $18-20 per hour instead of $15-17 per hour for two kids in one family). We can't tell whether $1.50 per hour is the right raise without knowing what the nanny currently earns. Given that your nanny has already had two $1 raises based on performance, $20 per hour is probably the right number for a share.
Anonymous
OP here. Nanny will be going from a two child situation to a two child situation--not doubling the workload. She will have a 20 month old and a 26 month old. The share rate would be be 18.50/hour.

WIth 40 hours plus 10 overtime that works out to 57,700. a year. Its a lot more than what I made in my 30s, while paying off college and grad school loans!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Nanny will be going from a two child situation to a two child situation--not doubling the workload. She will have a 20 month old and a 26 month old. The share rate would be be 18.50/hour.

WIth 40 hours plus 10 overtime that works out to 57,700. a year. Its a lot more than what I made in my 30s, while paying off college and grad school loans!

You're planning to take your older child to work with you on sick/vacation days?
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