Live-In Vs. 24hr Nanny?
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Anonymous
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Looking for new nanny position. I have been a live-in my whole nanny career (15 years), but I usually have set hours 7-6pm M-F. The evenings and weekends I have off and to myself. I make $65,000 now, all my living expenses are factored into my job.
I am trying to figure out if I should try out a new position, and if it is worth it. Is is more $$$, but is it a fair wage compared to live-in/or live out jobs? I have come across a few positions (all in NYC) that are 24hr nanny positions 5 days a week. From Friday evening to Monday morning you have off, but you do not get to stay at the house, you would have to find your own housing those days. You are not allowed to go out at night, because you are on 24hr duty. if the child is up sick all night, you have to take care of them. These 24hr positions are listed at $75-85k a year. Even at that salary, I think that is serverly underpaid right? My reasoning is that is working around 110hrs a week, compared to my usual 50. And it is NOT a live-in position, because you do not stay there, you work there, and you have to be out on the weekends. And because you are not a live-in, you are subject to overtime right? I know many would argue, that the time the kids are sleeping, doesn't count. But do you still pay your nanny the same rate when your kids nap? I feel a job like like should pay at least $100k. If you do the math it just makes sense. What do you think? |
Anonymous
Well, that and it's NYC, so that's a premium right there. But if you don't 'live' there, where do you sleep while the children are sleeping? |
Anonymous
Typically the nanny has a room throughout the week but the weekend nanny uses it Friday evening until Monday morning, hence needing to find weekend accommodations. |
Anonymous
| Yeah, you are not a live-in cause you don't live there. Your mail does not go there, it's not the address on your drivers license. If you like me, you don't keep your clothes there. I have to pack my bag every week to go to work. I have non of my possessions at my work house, because I share a room with the weekend nanny. I have to rent my own apartment on the weekend. It is a very hard job, and it steals your life away. It's hard to do it on a long term basis. I have done it for 2 years. I now make 120,000. |
Anonymous
| I'd also imagine that resentment would be an issue in a position like that. Though I'm usually very understanding of MB/DB's busy schedules, I think it'd be difficult not to feel cold towards people who had nanny coverage 100% of the time. Especially if I was being compensated on the low end of the scale. |
Anonymous
| Good God! 75k is a lot of money for a nanny! Get over yourself OP. BTW, I'm a nanny. |
Anonymous
| I would totally do this for 75K. |
Anonymous
+1 I am an attorney and my first years I was putting in 80+ hrs a week, I was almost living at the office!!! And what was I paid in those days, 75k! |
Anonymous
You don't live there because you can't be there when off duty. If you lived there, you could be there on your days off. You are only there WHILE working, you just might get to sleep while on duty. Even though some doctors might think they live at a hospital when there all day and then on call all night, they don't technically live there do they? |
Anonymous
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I'm not a nanny, but, to me, the big question is how old are the kids and how likely are they to sleep all night. It seems like a good salary if the kids are sleeping 8-10 hours a night, and not worth it at all if you will be up on a regular basis.
When you work 24 shifts, an employer can not pay for up to 8 hours of sleeping time, so it is legal. However, they would need to pay your hourly rate if you have to wake up and work. (This is federal law. Different states may have stricter standards) |
Anonymous
| I think $65,000 live-in with relatively normal hours is much better than a 24-hr M-F deal with a slightly higher pay. The apartment itself would negate any increase in salary in NYC, and you would not get nights to yourself. |
Anonymous
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I'm a 24hr nanny. I do have to wake up and work many times during the night. And my employers are able to come to me at all hours, day or night.
The federal law does not make sense. If I would only get paid for the awake hours, I would stay up as long as I could do I could get paid. My sleeping hours are my working hours. If I went to the gym with in that 8 hour "window" I would loose my job. Because my job is to watch over child while he sleeps. |
Anonymous
The federal law is there to reflect the reality that there are jobs where someone is needed to be on-call, on-site for 24 hours but may be able to spend the time sleeping the majority of the time. Of course if you have a job where you will be up most nights, such as night nurse for a newborn, that would not apply to you. You wouldn't get paid for that time just because you were awake, but only if there was actual work that needed doing. This is, of course, just the legal minimum. An employer can pay you for sleeping hours if they wish, just as they can pay you more than minimum wage. I'm not familiar with the 24 hour nanny job market, so if the standard is 24 hour pay, then that may be what the market is requiring. I was just responding to the OP who was comparing night sleep time to nap time. Legally, it is different. |
Anonymous
It's not about the total salary!! It's abt how it comes down to the hourly rate. Do some math and maybe you'll be able to understand. |
Anonymous
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OP- most of the 24hr jobs in NYC pay 85-120 thousand a year. I have no idea why someone with your experience is having a hard time finding a job making at least 100 thousand? There are many out there. They are mostly with multi-million/billionaires and/or high profile families. It is a life sentence, so make sure you are ok sacrificing your soul for the money.
Also many 24hr jobs provide you with a private apartment for the weekends, or time off. |