Parents only offering low rates?

[Anonymous]

Parents in the job forum are still offering 15/hr. They are NUTS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents in the job forum are still offering 15/hr. They are NUTS!

Not, its not. They can offer/pay what ever they want and you can choose to accept it or find another job. You are only worth what someone is willing to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's true. Same here. Other important thing beside the low rates $; Some families asking: Speak another language and teach their children for free. Nanny own a car and use it for work; to drive their children. (What about the wear and tear beside the gas?) And No only asking light-housekeeping related to their kids, which is normal and tasks for the Nanny. Even worse, asking now do the Whole family laundry, family cooking, clean the kitchen, vacuum the house? I think they should know a little more about what is the difference between a Nanny and a Housekeeper position. This is shocking and very disappointing. A professional Nanny won't take a position like that. Sorry parents. With this a simple "Next".

There is no such thing, except in England as a professional nanny. You are worth what someone is willing to pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's true. Same here. Other important thing beside the low rates $; Some families asking: Speak another language and teach their children for free. Nanny own a car and use it for work; to drive their children. (What about the wear and tear beside the gas?) And No only asking light-housekeeping related to their kids, which is normal and tasks for the Nanny. Even worse, asking now do the Whole family laundry, family cooking, clean the kitchen, vacuum the house? I think they should know a little more about what is the difference between a Nanny and a Housekeeper position. This is shocking and very disappointing. A professional Nanny won't take a position like that. Sorry parents. With this a simple "Next".

There is no such thing, except in England as a professional nanny. You are worth what someone is willing to pay.

Actually PP, respectfully, you may be mistaken. Just because England is known for having a culture that recognizes and respects the nanny field (which sadly many people here don't), does not mean actual professional nannies does not exist. There are people who actually do this whole heartedly not only for a living but as their career. There are people who train in Nanny training schools and some who even train as a governess/nanny and early childhood development. They constantly take courses to qualify themselves for the job and they tend to attract a specific market. They are also paid fairly and accordingly they are very much working here in the DMV and paid accordingly. The problem is many don't know the difference between a babysitter and nanny as well as the difference between someone working in the nanny field temporarily (either due to college, career switching or other reasons) and someone who has chosen this field.

These aren't people just watching people's children as a hobby or because they have nothing better to do..if that were the case, then I doubt parents would be willing to entrust their children's lives to someone who isn't doing anything relevant enough.Professional nannies exist here...they are people who constantly work to perfect their craft, carry lots of experience under their belt, they can walk into a family system on day 1 and when invited to provide solutions, they come up with remedies that parents may have been struggling with. They are gifted with child development and go out of their way to be intentional about what parents and children need- without overstepping boundaries or undermining parents. That takes skills that you build over the years. Just because someone is not willing to pay a certain amount doesn't mean that person sets the going rate. Also what people are willing to pay in this area is much higher than what a lot of people having been trying to offer experienced/professional nannies and claiming that it is what people are willing to pay.

Also, professional nannies exist around the world as well.

Plenty of organizations are out there training and keeping nannies committed to their professional career.

https://www.usnanny.org/standards/

https://www.thenannyleague.com/#:~:text=Full%2DTime%20Nannies%20are%20professionals,and%20all%20around%20family%20support.&text=Depending%20on%20the%20job%2C%20number,30%2Fhr%20gross%20and%20up.

[Anonymous]

Genuinely asking---what is a competitive rate for 25 hours / week for afternoon pick up and evening care of a lower elementary kid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's true. Same here. Other important thing beside the low rates $; Some families asking: Speak another language and teach their children for free. Nanny own a car and use it for work; to drive their children. (What about the wear and tear beside the gas?) And No only asking light-housekeeping related to their kids, which is normal and tasks for the Nanny. Even worse, asking now do the Whole family laundry, family cooking, clean the kitchen, vacuum the house? I think they should know a little more about what is the difference between a Nanny and a Housekeeper position. This is shocking and very disappointing. A professional Nanny won't take a position like that. Sorry parents. With this a simple "Next".

There is no such thing, except in England as a professional nanny. You are worth what someone is willing to pay.

Actually PP, respectfully, you may be mistaken. Just because England is known for having a culture that recognizes and respects the nanny field (which sadly many people here don't), does not mean actual professional nannies does not exist. There are people who actually do this whole heartedly not only for a living but as their career. There are people who train in Nanny training schools and some who even train as a governess/nanny and early childhood development. They constantly take courses to qualify themselves for the job and they tend to attract a specific market. They are also paid fairly and accordingly they are very much working here in the DMV and paid accordingly. The problem is many don't know the difference between a babysitter and nanny as well as the difference between someone working in the nanny field temporarily (either due to college, career switching or other reasons) and someone who has chosen this field.

These aren't people just watching people's children as a hobby or because they have nothing better to do..if that were the case, then I doubt parents would be willing to entrust their children's lives to someone who isn't doing anything relevant enough.Professional nannies exist here...they are people who constantly work to perfect their craft, carry lots of experience under their belt, they can walk into a family system on day 1 and when invited to provide solutions, they come up with remedies that parents may have been struggling with. They are gifted with child development and go out of their way to be intentional about what parents and children need- without overstepping boundaries or undermining parents. That takes skills that you build over the years. Just because someone is not willing to pay a certain amount doesn't mean that person sets the going rate. Also what people are willing to pay in this area is much higher than what a lot of people having been trying to offer experienced/professional nannies and claiming that it is what people are willing to pay.

Also, professional nannies exist around the world as well.

Plenty of organizations are out there training and keeping nannies committed to their professional career.

https://www.usnanny.org/standards/

https://www.thenannyleague.com/#:~:text=Full%2DTime%20Nannies%20are%20professionals,and%20all%20around%20family%20support.&text=Depending%20on%20the%20job%2C%20number,30%2Fhr%20gross%20and%20up.

I think the point is that anyone can call themselves a 'nanny'. Unless you have a degree, a certification, experience or training, you cannot expect to make above $20/hr as a nanny.

This forum is very active with a vocal minority that believes a nanny should be paid $25/hr and higher simply because rich people employ nannies. That is flawed thinking.

You are only going to get paid what someone is willing to pay you. When teachers with degrees are paid $22/hr and are degreed and certified, I'm not sure why anyone would scoff at a family paying $20/hr for a non-degreed nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's true. Same here. Other important thing beside the low rates $; Some families asking: Speak another language and teach their children for free. Nanny own a car and use it for work; to drive their children. (What about the wear and tear beside the gas?) And No only asking light-housekeeping related to their kids, which is normal and tasks for the Nanny. Even worse, asking now do the Whole family laundry, family cooking, clean the kitchen, vacuum the house? I think they should know a little more about what is the difference between a Nanny and a Housekeeper position. This is shocking and very disappointing. A professional Nanny won't take a position like that. Sorry parents. With this a simple "Next".

There is no such thing, except in England as a professional nanny. You are worth what someone is willing to pay.

Actually PP, respectfully, you may be mistaken. Just because England is known for having a culture that recognizes and respects the nanny field (which sadly many people here don't), does not mean actual professional nannies does not exist. There are people who actually do this whole heartedly not only for a living but as their career. There are people who train in Nanny training schools and some who even train as a governess/nanny and early childhood development. They constantly take courses to qualify themselves for the job and they tend to attract a specific market. They are also paid fairly and accordingly they are very much working here in the DMV and paid accordingly. The problem is many don't know the difference between a babysitter and nanny as well as the difference between someone working in the nanny field temporarily (either due to college, career switching or other reasons) and someone who has chosen this field.

These aren't people just watching people's children as a hobby or because they have nothing better to do..if that were the case, then I doubt parents would be willing to entrust their children's lives to someone who isn't doing anything relevant enough.Professional nannies exist here...they are people who constantly work to perfect their craft, carry lots of experience under their belt, they can walk into a family system on day 1 and when invited to provide solutions, they come up with remedies that parents may have been struggling with. They are gifted with child development and go out of their way to be intentional about what parents and children need- without overstepping boundaries or undermining parents. That takes skills that you build over the years. Just because someone is not willing to pay a certain amount doesn't mean that person sets the going rate. Also what people are willing to pay in this area is much higher than what a lot of people having been trying to offer experienced/professional nannies and claiming that it is what people are willing to pay.

Also, professional nannies exist around the world as well.

Plenty of organizations are out there training and keeping nannies committed to their professional career.

https://www.usnanny.org/standards/

https://www.thenannyleague.com/#:~:text=Full%2DTime%20Nannies%20are%20professionals,and%20all%20around%20family%20support.&text=Depending%20on%20the%20job%2C%20number,30%2Fhr%20gross%20and%20up.

I think the point is that anyone can call themselves a 'nanny'. Unless you have a degree, a certification, experience or training, you cannot expect to make above $20/hr as a nanny.

This forum is very active with a vocal minority that believes a nanny should be paid $25/hr and higher simply because rich people employ nannies. That is flawed thinking.

You are only going to get paid what someone is willing to pay you. When teachers with degrees are paid $22/hr and are degreed and certified, I'm not sure why anyone would scoff at a family paying $20/hr for a non-degreed nanny.

And yes, the pool of "nannies" is full of people who are working as nannies between jobs, before their careers or simply because they haven't figured out what they are qualified to do yet. If you want your career field to be taken seriously as professionals, stop yelling at parents to pay more and start chastising "nannies" who are calling themselves "nannies" when they are glorified babysitters. Start a national certification to set standards for a "nanny" to be called a "nanny".
The pay is a direct reflection of a family's ability to hire someone at that rate. You can find a nanny for $15/hr in this area. You 100% can. Whether a parent will be happy or not is a different story. You can tear a person apart on facebook or here for offering $15/hr and asking for housekeeping services too, but there is definitely a candidate who will accept it. When wages have been stagnant for most other career fields over the last 10 years, not many families can afford much more.
I paid $18/hr for a nanny with 10 years experience last summer in the suburbs for 3 kids. She was great. If you have a good enough gig to make the whole package work, the hourly rate is just part of the entire deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's true. Same here. Other important thing beside the low rates $; Some families asking: Speak another language and teach their children for free. Nanny own a car and use it for work; to drive their children. (What about the wear and tear beside the gas?) And No only asking light-housekeeping related to their kids, which is normal and tasks for the Nanny. Even worse, asking now do the Whole family laundry, family cooking, clean the kitchen, vacuum the house? I think they should know a little more about what is the difference between a Nanny and a Housekeeper position. This is shocking and very disappointing. A professional Nanny won't take a position like that. Sorry parents. With this a simple "Next".

There is no such thing, except in England as a professional nanny. You are worth what someone is willing to pay.

Actually PP, respectfully, you may be mistaken. Just because England is known for having a culture that recognizes and respects the nanny field (which sadly many people here don't), does not mean actual professional nannies does not exist. There are people who actually do this whole heartedly not only for a living but as their career. There are people who train in Nanny training schools and some who even train as a governess/nanny and early childhood development. They constantly take courses to qualify themselves for the job and they tend to attract a specific market. They are also paid fairly and accordingly they are very much working here in the DMV and paid accordingly. The problem is many don't know the difference between a babysitter and nanny as well as the difference between someone working in the nanny field temporarily (either due to college, career switching or other reasons) and someone who has chosen this field.

These aren't people just watching people's children as a hobby or because they have nothing better to do..if that were the case, then I doubt parents would be willing to entrust their children's lives to someone who isn't doing anything relevant enough.Professional nannies exist here...they are people who constantly work to perfect their craft, carry lots of experience under their belt, they can walk into a family system on day 1 and when invited to provide solutions, they come up with remedies that parents may have been struggling with. They are gifted with child development and go out of their way to be intentional about what parents and children need- without overstepping boundaries or undermining parents. That takes skills that you build over the years. Just because someone is not willing to pay a certain amount doesn't mean that person sets the going rate. Also what people are willing to pay in this area is much higher than what a lot of people having been trying to offer experienced/professional nannies and claiming that it is what people are willing to pay.

Also, professional nannies exist around the world as well.

Plenty of organizations are out there training and keeping nannies committed to their professional career.

https://www.usnanny.org/standards/

https://www.thenannyleague.com/#:~:text=Full%2DTime%20Nannies%20are%20professionals,and%20all%20around%20family%20support.&text=Depending%20on%20the%20job%2C%20number,30%2Fhr%20gross%20and%20up.

I think the point is that anyone can call themselves a 'nanny'. Unless you have a degree, a certification, experience or training, you cannot expect to make above $20/hr as a nanny.

This forum is very active with a vocal minority that believes a nanny should be paid $25/hr and higher simply because rich people employ nannies. That is flawed thinking.

You are only going to get paid what someone is willing to pay you. When teachers with degrees are paid $22/hr and are degreed and certified, I'm not sure why anyone would scoff at a family paying $20/hr for a non-degreed nanny.

And yes, the pool of "nannies" is full of people who are working as nannies between jobs, before their careers or simply because they haven't figured out what they are qualified to do yet. If you want your career field to be taken seriously as professionals, stop yelling at parents to pay more and start chastising "nannies" who are calling themselves "nannies" when they are glorified babysitters. Start a national certification to set standards for a "nanny" to be called a "nanny".
The pay is a direct reflection of a family's ability to hire someone at that rate. You can find a nanny for $15/hr in this area. You 100% can. Whether a parent will be happy or not is a different story. You can tear a person apart on facebook or here for offering $15/hr and asking for housekeeping services too, but there is definitely a candidate who will accept it. When wages have been stagnant for most other career fields over the last 10 years, not many families can afford much more.
I paid $18/hr for a nanny with 10 years experience last summer in the suburbs for 3 kids. She was great. If you have a good enough gig to make the whole package work, the hourly rate is just part of the entire deal.

Good for you if you were able to find a nanny and pay her $18 for 3 kida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[

I think the point is that anyone can call themselves a 'nanny'. Unless you have a degree, a certification, experience or training, you cannot expect to make above $20/hr as a nanny.

This forum is very active with a vocal minority that believes a nanny should be paid $25/hr and higher simply because rich people employ nannies. That is flawed thinking.

You are only going to get paid what someone is willing to pay you. When teachers with degrees are paid $22/hr and are degreed and certified, I'm not sure why anyone would scoff at a family paying $20/hr for a non-degreed nanny.

No one expects to be paid those rates because families are rich. We expect to be paid based on our experience and education and the fact that we are raising people's TINY HUMAN BEINGS. We aren't tossing a burger on a grill or working a cash register. We aren't even just keeping a human alive, we are providing love and helping them learn along with making sure they stay safe and grow into adults that realize this is worth at least triple of what we actually get paid.

Please don't compare a teacher to a nanny. Unless that teacher is working privately in the home with just the kids from one family, and then I'm sure they are also earning the $$ rates that a private teacher/tutor costs.

I'd like to see what you would do if your career industry never raised rates for their workers over a 10 yr period even though minimum wage changed and inflation went up drastically. Wouldn't you get a little angry as well and try to point out that as other costs go up, your market pay should be as well? That when someone from another industry says your only worth what they want to pay you, that you should sit down and take it?

Domestic employees are one of the most taken advantage of groups of workers and your comments just go to show how things need to change. Parents can't work without childcare, we are essential to you, and treating childcare workers like trash won't do you any good.

[Anonymous]

The going rate for an experienced caregiver is $30 hourly plus 2 week vacation paid and most holidays paid as well. We give stipend towards health insurance. Cost of living is high in the DMV, so I don’t see how a person can live on a $20 hourly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The going rate for an experienced caregiver is $30 hourly plus 2 week vacation paid and most holidays paid as well. We give stipend towards health insurance. Cost of living is high in the DMV, so I don’t see how a person can live on a $20 hourly.

Roughly $62,000 a year costing a family $78,000 in childcare costs. Just putting it into annual costs at 40 hours a week.
$20/hour is $42,000/year. Costing a family $52,000 a year in childcare costs.

I have no opinion on whether a family or a person can live on $42,000 a year but I can imagine it would be very difficult for a middle class family to afford 78k in childcare costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The going rate for an experienced caregiver is $30 hourly plus 2 week vacation paid and most holidays paid as well. We give stipend towards health insurance. Cost of living is high in the DMV, so I don’t see how a person can live on a $20 hourly.

Roughly $62,000 a year costing a family $78,000 in childcare costs. Just putting it into annual costs at 40 hours a week.
$20/hour is $42,000/year. Costing a family $52,000 a year in childcare costs.

I have no opinion on whether a family or a person can live on $42,000 a year but I can imagine it would be very difficult for a middle class family to afford 78k in childcare costs.

$78,000 is equivalent to a GS-11 in DC as a government employee. A GS-7 begins at 52k a year. Just as a reference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The going rate for an experienced caregiver is $30 hourly plus 2 week vacation paid and most holidays paid as well. We give stipend towards health insurance. Cost of living is high in the DMV, so I don’t see how a person can live on a $20 hourly.

Roughly $62,000 a year costing a family $78,000 in childcare costs. Just putting it into annual costs at 40 hours a week.
$20/hour is $42,000/year. Costing a family $52,000 a year in childcare costs.

I have no opinion on whether a family or a person can live on $42,000 a year but I can imagine it would be very difficult for a middle class family to afford 78k in childcare costs.

$78,000 is equivalent to a GS-11 in DC as a government employee. A GS-7 begins at 52k a year. Just as a reference.

A government employee can’t afford their own nanny, which is why states are so popular in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The going rate for an experienced caregiver is $30 hourly plus 2 week vacation paid and most holidays paid as well. We give stipend towards health insurance. Cost of living is high in the DMV, so I don’t see how a person can live on a $20 hourly.

Roughly $62,000 a year costing a family $78,000 in childcare costs. Just putting it into annual costs at 40 hours a week.
$20/hour is $42,000/year. Costing a family $52,000 a year in childcare costs.

I have no opinion on whether a family or a person can live on $42,000 a year but I can imagine it would be very difficult for a middle class family to afford 78k in childcare costs.

$78,000 is equivalent to a GS-11 in DC as a government employee. A GS-7 begins at 52k a year. Just as a reference.

A government employee can’t afford their own nanny, which is why states are so popular in this area.

Shares, sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The going rate for an experienced caregiver is $30 hourly plus 2 week vacation paid and most holidays paid as well. We give stipend towards health insurance. Cost of living is high in the DMV, so I don’t see how a person can live on a $20 hourly.

Roughly $62,000 a year costing a family $78,000 in childcare costs. Just putting it into annual costs at 40 hours a week.
$20/hour is $42,000/year. Costing a family $52,000 a year in childcare costs.

I have no opinion on whether a family or a person can live on $42,000 a year but I can imagine it would be very difficult for a middle class family to afford 78k in childcare costs.

It never occured to me that a "middle class family" would have a nanny. I always thought nannies were for very high income folks.