PT Compensation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I heard from an agency in the DC area. $18-20 for part time. That is with a little more because it is part time.

Don't listen to nannies on here who hype up prices as "authority."

I am an MB and PP from above saying that OP should go higher - not a nanny.

Look, here is the bottom line as we all know it - OP, do what you want. If you can keep a great part time nanny for $23 an hour - that is fantastic and I envy you. I gave you my experience of losing part time nannies once they found full time jobs (regardless of how they promised in the interview that part time was exactly what they wanted) until I started offering $26 an hour. Now I have had the same part time nanny for the last three years. Maybe she would have stayed for $20 an hour and maybe not. It is what it is.

Do as you like, OP - you have been given both sides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$30 is crazy.

That means for a MB to pay a nanny, she has to have a job that pays $70k/year just to be able to afford the nanny, never mind keep anything as earnings. And, you have someone else caring for your child and in your house messing up everything you set up. That's just not worth it. An MB has to be able to work, earn some money to pay for the house, and make it worth it for someone else to be caring for the child.

Asking for $30 means anyone with a job less than $150k will find it not worth-while to hire a nanny.

Exactly. That is why many women will leave or take time off from relatively good paying jobs when they have kids, to stay at home. Or other women know that taking time off will hurt their career too much/impossible to break back in after a couple years off, so they will just suck it up and actually LOSE money by working, just to maintain credibility/remain current in their career.

It's a choice you have to make when you decide to have children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:$30 is crazy.

That means for a MB to pay a nanny, she has to have a job that pays $70k/year just to be able to afford the nanny, never mind keep anything as earnings. And, you have someone else caring for your child and in your house messing up everything you set up. That's just not worth it. An MB has to be able to work, earn some money to pay for the house, and make it worth it for someone else to be caring for the child.

Asking for $30 means anyone with a job less than $150k will find it not worth-while to hire a nanny.

Exactly. That is why many women will leave or take time off from relatively good paying jobs when they have kids, to stay at home. Or other women know that taking time off will hurt their career too much/impossible to break back in after a couple years off, so they will just suck it up and actually LOSE money by working, just to maintain credibility/remain current in their career.

It's a choice you have to make when you decide to have children.

+1. I'm in the latter group who is sucking it up and working to remain current in my field. It sucks. regardless $30 is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$30 is crazy.

That means for a MB to pay a nanny, she has to have a job that pays $70k/year just to be able to afford the nanny, never mind keep anything as earnings. And, you have someone else caring for your child and in your house messing up everything you set up. That's just not worth it. An MB has to be able to work, earn some money to pay for the house, and make it worth it for someone else to be caring for the child.

Asking for $30 means anyone with a job less than $150k will find it not worth-while to hire a nanny.

Quoting $30 is really doing yourselves harm, nannies, and make less jobs for yourselves. Most people do not earn that, particularly moms of young kids (people in their 30's) who have only advanced in their careers so much. You just told all the office workers, data entry, teachers, and all the professions that pay less than $150k salary that they can't afford a nanny. They are now looking at center options or home-based care now that only cost $20k per year. Then, all the people who are in jobs that pay $50k and up can afford it.

Actually, since childcare is all paid after taxes + you need to pay social security tax, I think your numbers are very low. $70k/yr is what she would need to pay the nanny (assuming she only needs a nanny 40 hours/wk). In order to pay her nanny $70k, she may need to make something like $110-140k/yr. Then to have some money to spend it would be more like $170-200k/yr. At least. So this precludes not only the nurses and office workers, but most associate attorneys and primary care physicians and pediatricians.
I am sure there are people who can afford this in their early 30s, but they are few and far between.

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the PPs who thought $30 is high, but not because many moms don't make $30 after taxes. After all, it's not a nanny's responsibility to ensure people making $150k can afford nanny care. And honestly people in that income bracket probably can't. The reason I think $30 is high is because this is a 3 days a week job. If you needed something like 7-9 and 3-6 each day. then yeah $30 might be right. But with your setup you are more likely to find someone around $25. You need to also look for someone who is actually looking to work fewer hours, though. Maybe probe on that during the interviews.
One idea is to advertise a little on the lower end of what you think is needed based on responses here and see what applicants you get. You can always go higher and repost a job listing if need be, but it's hard to advertise "up to $30/hr" and then pay any less than $30 even if the nanny doesn't merit it based on her experience/skills. there will be resentment that she feels you "settled" for her (cuz if she were the ideal candidate why wouldn't you pay your max?) or that you are being cheap.

[Anonymous]

You can always say, let's start at $26 and re-evaluate in three months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can always say, let's start at $26 and re-evaluate in three months.

That is one surefire way to not get the job. Plenty of people applying and asking for far less. They will go with someone else. Why is that such a "sure thing?" Because that's way above market rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You can always say, let's start at $26 and re-evaluate in three months.

That is one surefire way to not get the job. Plenty of people applying and asking for far less. They will go with someone else. Why is that such a "sure thing?" Because that's way above market rate.

Custodial care is a real bargain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$30 is crazy.

That means for a MB to pay a nanny, she has to have a job that pays $70k/year just to be able to afford the nanny, never mind keep anything as earnings. And, you have someone else caring for your child and in your house messing up everything you set up. That's just not worth it. An MB has to be able to work, earn some money to pay for the house, and make it worth it for someone else to be caring for the child.

Asking for $30 means anyone with a job less than $150k will find it not worth-while to hire a nanny.

Quoting $30 is really doing yourselves harm, nannies, and make less jobs for yourselves. Most people do not earn that, particularly moms of young kids (people in their 30's) who have only advanced in their careers so much. You just told all the office workers, data entry, teachers, and all the professions that pay less than $150k salary that they can't afford a nanny. They are now looking at center options or home-based care now that only cost $20k per year. Then, all the people who are in jobs that pay $50k and up can afford it.

Most teachers offer sub-par pay and don’t want to guarantee hours...

[Anonymous]

We paid $18/hour for roughly this arrangement and it worked well. We had an older student who needed part-time hours and for her the setup was perfect. We did work with her to arrange care on the days that worked best with her schedule, and we offered the exact vacation and sick day benefits suggested above.

The efforts to belittle people who also happen to be enrolled in school as somehow subpar or not "real" nannies is silly IMO. Many students have quite a bit of childcare experience and ours was excellent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We paid $18/hour for roughly this arrangement and it worked well. We had an older student who needed part-time hours and for her the setup was perfect. We did work with her to arrange care on the days that worked best with her schedule, and we offered the exact vacation and sick day benefits suggested above.

The efforts to belittle people who also happen to be enrolled in school as somehow subpar or not "real" nannies is silly IMO. Many students have quite a bit of childcare experience and ours was excellent.

That would be a sitter. No need to belittle her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We paid $18/hour for roughly this arrangement and it worked well. We had an older student who needed part-time hours and for her the setup was perfect. We did work with her to arrange care on the days that worked best with her schedule, and we offered the exact vacation and sick day benefits suggested above.

The efforts to belittle people who also happen to be enrolled in school as somehow subpar or not "real" nannies is silly IMO. Many students have quite a bit of childcare experience and ours was excellent.

That would be a sitter. No need to belittle her.

PP here. This is a meaningless distinction. Anyone can call themselves a nanny since the title requires no qualifications. We wanted someone who could competently care for our children, teach them and offer activities as age-appropriate, bond with them, and keep them safe. Call it whatever you like, that's what virtually all MBs are looking for.