MOCo paid sick leave bill

[Anonymous]

I know people who work for companies and they get no paid holidays, no paid vacation and no paid sick days. They can take time off unpaid but never paid. This is on the west coast but still in America

[Anonymous]

"Anonymous wrote:
Which employers give 30 days PTO? I think in most private sector jobs a starting worker with that company would get 2 weeks plus 3-5 sick. That is far from 30 days.


I guess you work for cheap companies because every comps,t I have ever worked for ga e 30 PTO from the start ."

These are for entry level positions not mid level? I just find that amazing. My company gives 4 weeks by the time you are there 5 years plus 5 sick but even then that is just 25 days. I find it truly amazing that most entry level jobs would grant anywhere near 30 days.

[Anonymous]

I'm just a lowly Social Worker.

We start at-

22 Vacation Days
5 Personal Days
12 Sick Days

You use or lose the personal days each year. Sick days accrue and can carry over to unlimited. You can also carry over 1/2 of your vacation or 11 days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm just a lowly Social Worker.

We start at-

22 Vacation Days
5 Personal Days
12 Sick Days

You use or lose the personal days each year. Sick days accrue and can carry over to unlimited. You can also carry over 1/2 of your vacation or 11 days.

Do you work for the government (local, state, or federal)? Almost no private employers give those kinds of days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm just a lowly Social Worker.

We start at-

22 Vacation Days
5 Personal Days
12 Sick Days

You use or lose the personal days each year. Sick days accrue and can carry over to unlimited. You can also carry over 1/2 of your vacation or 11 days.

Do you work for the government (local, state, or federal)? Almost no private employers give those kinds of days.

+1. I don't know of many private employers offering that much PTO.

[Anonymous]

So a nanny working 45 hrs/wk, would accrue 1.5 hours of sick leave per week, and a total of 78 hrs per year. That is a lot of sick leave - 2 weeks, of which 56 hrs can carry over, so by the end of year 2, a nanny can have 134 hrs of sick leave in the bank. That's a lot, especially if paired with vacation days. I think any household employer is going to cut back on other PTO if this goes into effect and/or start requiring Dr's notes for sick days so that it's not being used to just have more vacation time.

And the bill does state that it must be paid leave at the normal rate, which addresses another PP's comment, but the council recommends that it be amended to be unpaid for employers with less than 10 employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a nanny working 45 hrs/wk, would accrue 1.5 hours of sick leave per week, and a total of 78 hrs per year. That is a lot of sick leave - 2 weeks, of which 56 hrs can carry over, so by the end of year 2, a nanny can have 134 hrs of sick leave in the bank. That's a lot, especially if paired with vacation days. I think any household employer is going to cut back on other PTO if this goes into effect and/or start requiring Dr's notes for sick days so that it's not being used to just have more vacation time.

And the bill does state that it must be paid leave at the normal rate, which addresses another PP's comment, but the council recommends that it be amended to be unpaid for employers with less than 10 employees.

No, the nanny can accrue up to 56 hours per year, and can rollover to use up to 80 hours per year. I wouldn't have an issue with providing a Doctor's note for any instance where I need to take 2+ sick days, but I don't think a note should be required if it's just one. Or the alternative is to have nanny come in and send her home with a paid day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a nanny working 45 hrs/wk, would accrue 1.5 hours of sick leave per week, and a total of 78 hrs per year. That is a lot of sick leave - 2 weeks, of which 56 hrs can carry over, so by the end of year 2, a nanny can have 134 hrs of sick leave in the bank. That's a lot, especially if paired with vacation days. I think any household employer is going to cut back on other PTO if this goes into effect and/or start requiring Dr's notes for sick days so that it's not being used to just have more vacation time.

And the bill does state that it must be paid leave at the normal rate, which addresses another PP's comment, but the council recommends that it be amended to be unpaid for employers with less than 10 employees.

No, the nanny can accrue up to 56 hours per year, and can rollover to use up to 80 hours per year. I wouldn't have an issue with providing a Doctor's note for any instance where I need to take 2+ sick days, but I don't think a note should be required if it's just one. Or the alternative is to have nanny come in and send her home with a paid day.

I didn't see a cap on how many days are in the bank, but if you can only use 2 weeks max, I don't think it's a big deal anyway, because if the nanny takes huge chunks of sick leave, the parents will look for another nanny anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a nanny working 45 hrs/wk, would accrue 1.5 hours of sick leave per week, and a total of 78 hrs per year. That is a lot of sick leave - 2 weeks, of which 56 hrs can carry over, so by the end of year 2, a nanny can have 134 hrs of sick leave in the bank. That's a lot, especially if paired with vacation days. I think any household employer is going to cut back on other PTO if this goes into effect and/or start requiring Dr's notes for sick days so that it's not being used to just have more vacation time.

And the bill does state that it must be paid leave at the normal rate, which addresses another PP's comment, but the council recommends that it be amended to be unpaid for employers with less than 10 employees.

No, the nanny can accrue up to 56 hours per year, and can rollover to use up to 80 hours per year. I wouldn't have an issue with providing a Doctor's note for any instance where I need to take 2+ sick days, but I don't think a note should be required if it's just one. Or the alternative is to have nanny come in and send her home with a paid day.

The bill says the employee would accrue at least one hour per 30 hours worked per day, and up to 56 hrs can be carried over per year. Limits are carry over are different than limits on accrual - you have until the end of the year to use or lose the excess.

[Anonymous]

" if you can only use 2 weeks max, I don't think it's a big deal anyway, because if the nanny takes huge chunks of sick leave, the parents will look for another nanny anyway."

It's a big deal because to avoid taking something away from my nanny it would need to be on top of the vacation time I already offer. It's also a big deal since I don't WANT to simply look for another nanny. I want to keep the one I have but ensure there's a reasonable understanding about how much time out - paid or otherwise - is feasible for me to handle. If the Bill were a PTO bill it would not be as big an issue; since it's just a sick leave bill it's WAY more generous in one area, while not seeming to credit employers who already offer PTO/vacation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:" if you can only use 2 weeks max, I don't think it's a big deal anyway, because if the nanny takes huge chunks of sick leave, the parents will look for another nanny anyway."

It's a big deal because to avoid taking something away from my nanny it would need to be on top of the vacation time I already offer. It's also a big deal since I don't WANT to simply look for another nanny. I want to keep the one I have but ensure there's a reasonable understanding about how much time out - paid or otherwise - is feasible for me to handle. If the Bill were a PTO bill it would not be as big an issue; since it's just a sick leave bill it's WAY more generous in one area, while not seeming to credit employers who already offer PTO/vacation.

How often does your nanny get sick? Write the contract so that your nanny has 1 week vacation after 6 months. At the year mark, evaluate how much sick leave she took, and base merit raise and PTO/vacation on that. I'm a nanny and in the last 5 years, I've been sick enough to need to stay home once; because I lived-in and the kids were sick too, it wasn't an issue, and I worked, but didn't do any of the normal things, just sick care for kids and myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm just a lowly Social Worker.

We start at-

22 Vacation Days
5 Personal Days
12 Sick Days

You use or lose the personal days each year. Sick days accrue and can carry over to unlimited. You can also carry over 1/2 of your vacation or 11 days.

Do you work for the government (local, state, or federal)? Almost no private employers give those kinds of days.

I'm in New York and work at a Private Non Profit. These numbers are pretty standard here. This is not my company, but I work at a similar agency.

http://www.mhawestchester.org/content/jobs-mha

[Anonymous]

Bill passed. Washington post says it is 32 hrs paid and 24 hours unpaid for employers with 5 or less employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bill passed. Washington post says it is 32 hrs paid and 24 hours unpaid for employers with 5 or less employees.

So 4 paid 8 hours days, and 3 unpaid, that's quite reasonable. And personally, I don't see why it should impact PTO or vacation. I don't usually get sick, all of my medical appointments are scheduled for PTO days, and I have two weeks of vacation. Yes, one week is supposedly my choice, but I almost always let the family know 6 months ahead, and they schedule their vacation for that week, so nbd, they don't need back-up. Those sick days with 3-5 PTO and two weeks vacation seem reasonable to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bill passed. Washington post says it is 32 hrs paid and 24 hours unpaid for employers with 5 or less employees.

So 4 paid 8 hours days, and 3 unpaid, that's quite reasonable. And personally, I don't see why it should impact PTO or vacation. I don't usually get sick, all of my medical appointments are scheduled for PTO days, and I have two weeks of vacation. Yes, one week is supposedly my choice, but I almost always let the family know 6 months ahead, and they schedule their vacation for that week, so nbd, they don't need back-up. Those sick days with 3-5 PTO and two weeks vacation seem reasonable to me.

Yes, I think it's reasonable also. Our nanny works a 50 hour week - so 32 hours paid and 24 hrs unpaid is 56 hours, really only an additional half day of unpaid leave beyond what we already give as paid sick leave (5 days annually).

Seems fair and decent to me, and the small business exemption makes it manageable for an employer like me. Probably really tough for a small business owner with a half dozen employees though...