Anyone used NannySure?

[Anonymous]

+1,000 to 07:34. OP you need to work on your trust issue or you have your own issue.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Wow, I took a break from the thread while I continued researching and getting ready to go back to work. You people are really vicious -- are you all really employers (aka moms that have hired nanny's)? Do you not remember feeling nervous or anxious before going back to work and leaving your child with a practical stranger?

I simply wanted to know if anyone had experience with this service. The service is available, so I assume that some people use it and I am not the only one in the world who worries about what a nanny is doing with my child. I thought I'd reach out to a local board to see if anyone had input with the service. If the service had positive reviews, I may have looked into it more.

But I don't know how you made the leap from "I'm nervous about going back to work and think this service may help alleviate those concerns, so I'd like to hear from others" to "you are crazy and have serious trust issues."

With that, I'll return to the general parenting board where people are a lot more sane!

[Anonymous]

OP there are so many less invasive options out there I am not sure why you are interested in this one. Surely you already know many parents use a camera at home. What makes you think you need this level of surveillance? Only your own demons could push you to do this.

[Anonymous]

OP, I'm an MB. I hired a nanny (who is still with us 3 years later) before I knew about DCUM. I would have been INFINITELY more scared about hiring someone after reading these threads than I was beforehand.

However, I do agree that you're a little too wound about that. You need to trust your instincts and ability to hire someone that you have (and will) carefully screen and manage. You will interview as many people as necessary to give you choices and a sense of what kind of person/approach/background feels like the best fit for you and your family.

You can do a trial period with a nanny, that you supervise. You can be home with the nanny for a period of time to ensure that you feel comfortable. You can have nanny cams if you want, etc... There are lots of ways to ensure that by the time you actually do go back to work you are not leaving your child with a stranger. You're leaving your child with someone you know well and who you have grown to trust.

It is somewhat of a leap of faith - to be sure. But the vast majority of all nannies I have met care very deeply about kids. Not all of them are great with adults, not all are equally good at things that matter to me or are people I'd enjoy having in my home every day. But very, very, very seldom do I get a feeling of concern.

Try to be a little more zen about it and trust the process - it will help you build confidence and trust in whomever you hire.

Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Oh, OP, please don't take DCUM too seriously. I was an au-pair a while ago, spent the best year of my life and gained a family across the world, but I would have never gone over if I had read all those message boards and forums that said how awful it was and what a miserable time people could have. And I'm so glad I started nannying before I started going on nanny sites. I've nannied and regularly babysat for about a dozen families in the last ten years and I have never been treated badly or unfairly, and only had minimal problems that were easily dealt with with an honest conversation. Most other nannies I met were kind and attentive to the children they looked after and had great relationships with their charges' mothers.

And happy nannies and nanny families don't tend to go on websites of this sort because you start to look for a similar website, generally, if you have a problem and need advice, so everything here does not represent reality at all. If you've been around for a few weeks you'll notice that any post starting with 'I love my nanny/I love my NF' gets bogged down in negativity and doubt. For pete's sake, my first thought when I read your question was that you were advertising for NannySure! (Sorry). And I am usually a rather mild good natured person, so these boards do tend to bring out the worst in people, I think.

[RyanNannySure]

To the anonymous poster who originally started this thread, as a representative of NannySure I wanted to reach out to you and provide a little more insight into the service that is provided.

NannySure is a new service, but the concern that is being addressed is valid. The main reason that those who can do not place their children in the care of a nanny, au pair, or even family, is safety. For this reason, they instead place their children into center-based care, or if they are able, they stay home with their children. In center-based care there are cameras or other people constantly observing those who are watching children. In center-based care there are also rules, such as on cell phone usage, and consequences for not following the rules. Within home care there is usually a lack of this oversight. Some families purchase nanny-cams, some hire private investigative firms. NannySure provides the best of both worlds.

NannySure also strives for 100% transparency, because as Thomas Jefferson said, "If you are going to do something, do it as if the whole world were watching." Nannies must sign an agreement in advance of NannySure providing services. It is important that people know that they are being seen doing their work. It is proven that when people know that they are being observed, they behave better. Also, it is important that if something were to go wrong and a child be injured, that there is more than one person's interpretation of that event, hence, why people are more trusting of center-based care. Though far from perfect, there is at least some protection for both the children and the staff. NannySure provides the same assurance for both the nanny and the children.

Ryan

[Anonymous]

RyanNannySure wrote:To the anonymous poster who originally started this thread, as a representative of NannySure I wanted to reach out to you and provide a little more insight into the service that is provided.

NannySure is a new service, but the concern that is being addressed is valid. The main reason that those who can do not place their children in the care of a nanny, au pair, or even family, is safety. For this reason, they instead place their children into center-based care, or if they are able, they stay home with their children. In center-based care there are cameras or other people constantly observing those who are watching children. In center-based care there are also rules, such as on cell phone usage, and consequences for not following the rules. Within home care there is usually a lack of this oversight. Some families purchase nanny-cams, some hire private investigative firms. NannySure provides the best of both worlds.

NannySure also strives for 100% transparency, because as Thomas Jefferson said, "If you are going to do something, do it as if the whole world were watching." Nannies must sign an agreement in advance of NannySure providing services. It is important that people know that they are being seen doing their work. It is proven that when people know that they are being observed, they behave better. Also, it is important that if something were to go wrong and a child be injured, that there is more than one person's interpretation of that event, hence, why people are more trusting of center-based care. Though far from perfect, there is at least some protection for both the children and the staff. NannySure provides the same assurance for both the nanny and the children.

Ryan

I am so sure that you, Ryan, and the original OP of this thread are TOTALLY not the same person. Nice try. Your company is bogus and comes dangerously close to infringing upon a whole bunch of civil liberties. Not to mention the fact that if ANY perspective or recently hired nanny caught wind that their employer was thinking of using your services (though I doubt that has yet to happen because I can't believe, even in this crazy helicopter parent society, that anyone has actually hired you) they would quit. Immediately. Nice try with the "we are here for nannies" bit on your website though. You are doing way more harm than good and peddling yourselves on an anonymous internet board is just plain lame.

[RyanNannySure]

I am sorry you feel I am not a separate person from the original posting of this thread, however I am an entirely different person responding on the behalf of NannySure. As a standard practice in business, NannySure has launched a multi-faceted marketing campaign that has just begun. DC Urban Moms and Dads happens to be one site that we came across that had much discussion about our service, and we felt our input would be beneficial to those who read the exchange to educate them further on the unique, first-of-its-kind service. We hope the information below gives a glimpse into our research and helps anyone reading this to understand why we feel NannySure USA serves an important purpose.

Here are two studies on the death and injury that occurs to children in care.

Fatalities and the Organization of Child Care in the United States, 1985-2003
http://www.asanet.org/images/members/docs/pdf/featured/Oct05ASRWrigleyDreby.pdf

And

Why Aren’t We outraged? Children Dying in Child Care Across America http://www.naccrra.org/sites/default/files/default_site_pages/2012/why_arent_we_outraged_july_22.pdf

It is a common practice in business to randomly observe employees to make sure they are doing as expected, and it is required the employee sign off on this practice at the time of hiring. As stated on our site and in the above response, NannySure’s services are designed to bring into the home similar tools of observations as are found in center based care. The goal is to make in-home care safer. According to the study, Fatalities and the Organization of Child Care in the United States, 1985-2003, Julia Wrigley and Joanna Dreby, in-home care is significantly more dangerous than center-based care. One of the key reasons for this is the lack of peer, and managerial, review and oversight.

What is significant? During Ms. Wrigley’s and Ms. Dreby’s research they found that out of 1,362 childcare fatalities in between1985-2003, that 1,030 of these deaths occurred in in-home care. Out of the 1,030 fatalities, 507 of them were caused by violence. Center-based care had 110 fatalities of which 5 were due to violence. Since this report there has been no movement to reduce the risks of abuse and fatalities of children in in-home care. This report also only shows fatalities, and not the other abuse, neglect and predation that occurs to children in care.

NannySure believes that no family should experience the death or injury of a child. NannySure also believes that in-home care providers deserve the same security from false accusations of inappropriate care as center-based providers’ experience. Please take the time to read the linked documents above. Hiding from these facts and belittling parents who want to hire nannies is counterproductive for everyone.

In-home care is defined in the report as any care that is provided either in the child’s home or another person’s.

[Anonymous]

RyanNannySure wrote:I am sorry you feel I am not a separate person from the original posting of this thread, however I am an entirely different person responding on the behalf of NannySure. As a standard practice in business, NannySure has launched a multi-faceted marketing campaign that has just begun. DC Urban Moms and Dads happens to be one site that we came across that had much discussion about our service, and we felt our input would be beneficial to those who read the exchange to educate them further on the unique, first-of-its-kind service. We hope the information below gives a glimpse into our research and helps anyone reading this to understand why we feel NannySure USA serves an important purpose.

Here are two studies on the death and injury that occurs to children in care.

Fatalities and the Organization of Child Care in the United States, 1985-2003
http://www.asanet.org/images/members/docs/pdf/featured/Oct05ASRWrigleyDreby.pdf

And

Why Aren’t We outraged? Children Dying in Child Care Across America http://www.naccrra.org/sites/default/files/default_site_pages/2012/why_arent_we_outraged_july_22.pdf

It is a common practice in business to randomly observe employees to make sure they are doing as expected, and it is required the employee sign off on this practice at the time of hiring. As stated on our site and in the above response, NannySure’s services are designed to bring into the home similar tools of observations as are found in center based care. The goal is to make in-home care safer. According to the study, Fatalities and the Organization of Child Care in the United States, 1985-2003, Julia Wrigley and Joanna Dreby, in-home care is significantly more dangerous than center-based care. One of the key reasons for this is the lack of peer, and managerial, review and oversight.

What is significant? During Ms. Wrigley’s and Ms. Dreby’s research they found that out of 1,362 childcare fatalities in between1985-2003, that 1,030 of these deaths occurred in in-home care. Out of the 1,030 fatalities, 507 of them were caused by violence. Center-based care had 110 fatalities of which 5 were due to violence. Since this report there has been no movement to reduce the risks of abuse and fatalities of children in in-home care. This report also only shows fatalities, and not the other abuse, neglect and predation that occurs to children in care.

NannySure believes that no family should experience the death or injury of a child. NannySure also believes that in-home care providers deserve the same security from false accusations of inappropriate care as center-based providers’ experience. Please take the time to read the linked documents above. Hiding from these facts and belittling parents who want to hire nannies is counterproductive for everyone.

In-home care is defined in the report as any care that is provided either in the child’s home or another person’s.

So family day care and nanny care are lumped into the same statistic?

[Anonymous]

Good luck finding families willing to pay for this and nannies willing to go along with it. Unless I was being paid a shitload of money there is no way I would agree to being followed by complete strangers. That would bring up major red flags and make me run from the position. However, seeing as this post was just a marketing tool by the company, it clearly implies that they have let to obtain the clientele. By the way scaring parents in to the belief that nannies are evil and need to be watched around the clock is just going to push your business away and into the cheaper solution, daycare. Most people don't hire nannies because of safety but because it's so expensive.

[Anonymous]

Annyomous,

Did you read either of these reports? also I don't see a scare tactic being placed. I see the efforts of a company to answer your statement that they do more harm then good by offering services. Regardless of what you believe if this is a company hosted post then you are right and that is lame. I wont know this but those that posted will.

As a parent who has hired nannies I have to say that if I were to present this NannySure as a requirement to hire and any nanny said half of what you said. i would look somewhere else because i would wonder what do you have to hide?

Ryan, How does your company support me while i am in the process of hiring a nanny or how do you recemend i start this conversation? Also as the links show all In-Home care suffers from this.

[Anonymous]

Oh lord he isn't done yet. Worst marketing scheme ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Annyomous,

Did you read either of these reports? also I don't see a scare tactic being placed. I see the efforts of a company to answer your statement that they do more harm then good by offering services. Regardless of what you believe if this is a company hosted post then you are right and that is lame. I wont know this but those that posted will.

As a parent who has hired nannies I have to say that if I were to present this NannySure as a requirement to hire and any nanny said half of what you said. i would look somewhere else because i would wonder what do you have to hide?

Ryan, How does your company support me while i am in the process of hiring a nanny or how do you recemend i start this conversation? Also as the links show all In-Home care suffers from this.

This is sooooo obvious!

[RyanNannySure]

To the individual who does have concerns hiring a nanny, if you would like additional details or support that is separate from this thread feel free to contact me at [e-mail] and we can discuss further.

Ryan

[Anonymous]

RyanNannySure wrote:To the individual who does have concerns hiring a nanny, if you would like additional details or support that is separate from this thread feel free to contact me at [e-mail] and we can discuss further.

Ryan

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