Who should pay?

[Anonymous]

OP here. Gosh I'm glad most of the responders aren't my employers, however I'd never work for rude and thoughtless people, because they insisted on paying the whole ticket as they said it wasn't my fault. The mom said she had no clue that I was arriving 10 to 15 minutes early to pick her daughter up so I wouldn't be late. Which is why those rude commenters saying I need to get there earlier are being ridiculous. Do you show up to your job more than 20 minutes early every day? Also, I was never going to demand my boss pay me more. It was worded poorly because I only had 15 minutes between dropping one charge off and picking up the next. I have great relationship with my nanny family and am very thankful to work for such great employers. And I know they feel the same way as they are always very generous with me, just two weeks ago I celebrated my birthday and they gave me a $120 gift card to a really nice restaurant. I will just remember that next time something comes up and go straight to my MB instead of on here, where rude and ridiculous people tend to post. It really is a shame how bad posters are ruining this site. For the few commenters who were reasonable, thank you for your responses.

[Anonymous]

I didn't think people were all that rude...

[Anonymous]

I only work afternoons with this family. My charge gets out at 1:05 and my compensated hours start at 1. I live 15-20 minutes away but sometimes there is traffic and parking is sometimes a problem, so I always leave my house by 12:15. I don't think it's fair to me to leave any earlier without pay. I'm already overly generous as it is because I would rather be 10 minutes early than 2 minutes late when going anywhere. I realize this is my personal issue with needing to be early so I never charged my nanny family for the extra time as I didn't want them to feel taken advantage of because I'm getting paid extra to essentially play on my phone in the car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Gosh I'm glad most of the responders aren't my employers, however I'd never work for rude and thoughtless people, because they insisted on paying the whole ticket as they said it wasn't my fault. The mom said she had no clue that I was arriving 10 to 15 minutes early to pick her daughter up so I wouldn't be late. Which is why those rude commenters saying I need to get there earlier are being ridiculous. Do you show up to your job more than 20 minutes early every day? Also, I was never going to demand my boss pay me more. It was worded poorly because I only had 15 minutes between dropping one charge off and picking up the next. I have great relationship with my nanny family and am very thankful to work for such great employers. And I know they feel the same way as they are always very generous with me, just two weeks ago I celebrated my birthday and they gave me a $120 gift card to a really nice restaurant. I will just remember that next time something comes up and go straight to my MB instead of on here, where rude and ridiculous people tend to post. It really is a shame how bad posters are ruining this site. For the few commenters who were reasonable, thank you for your responses.

I can't help but laugh. OP, most people were not very mean. Your tone was fairly petulant though.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Gosh I'm glad most of the responders aren't my employers, however I'd never work for rude and thoughtless people, because they insisted on paying the whole ticket as they said it wasn't my fault. The mom said she had no clue that I was arriving 10 to 15 minutes early to pick her daughter up so I wouldn't be late. Which is why those rude commenters saying I need to get there earlier are being ridiculous. Do you show up to your job more than 20 minutes early every day? Also, I was never going to demand my boss pay me more. It was worded poorly because I only had 15 minutes between dropping one charge off and picking up the next. I have great relationship with my nanny family and am very thankful to work for such great employers. And I know they feel the same way as they are always very generous with me, just two weeks ago I celebrated my birthday and they gave me a $120 gift card to a really nice restaurant. I will just remember that next time something comes up and go straight to my MB instead of on here, where rude and ridiculous people tend to post. It really is a shame how bad posters are ruining this site. For the few commenters who were reasonable, thank you for your responses.

To be fair, OP, your post WAS confusing. I was going to give you advice but I couldn't tell if you worked for one employer or two. You didn't mention that there was a second child until later. By the way, it doesn't matter how long your commute is or how bad the traffic is. Your employers expect you to be there ON TIME at the beginning of your work period. If your commute time varies from day to day due to traffic, you should assume that traffic will take the longest time and leave early enough so as not to be late. If you are early, you can sit in the car and entertain yourself on your phone or read.

[Anonymous]

Ethically it would be the family's responsibility to pay for your parking ticket. You wouldn't have received it if you had not been there picking up their child. That was the sole reason you parked your car there.

You don't have to mention outright that they should pay, I would just casually mention the incident to your bosses and if they are decent bosses they will immediately jump in and either offer to pay it or at the very least offer to pony up half of the cost. If they do not, then that is not a very good character trait on them....However it would be up to you to decide if that is a deal-breaker for you or not.

Keep in mind that if they do offer to pay for your parking ticket, if you do incur add'l tickets in the future, you will most likely be responsible for paying them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Gosh I'm glad most of the responders aren't my employers, however I'd never work for rude and thoughtless people, because they insisted on paying the whole ticket as they said it wasn't my fault. The mom said she had no clue that I was arriving 10 to 15 minutes early to pick her daughter up so I wouldn't be late. Which is why those rude commenters saying I need to get there earlier are being ridiculous. Do you show up to your job more than 20 minutes early every day? Also, I was never going to demand my boss pay me more. It was worded poorly because I only had 15 minutes between dropping one charge off and picking up the next. I have great relationship with my nanny family and am very thankful to work for such great employers. And I know they feel the same way as they are always very generous with me, just two weeks ago I celebrated my birthday and they gave me a $120 gift card to a really nice restaurant. I will just remember that next time something comes up and go straight to my MB instead of on here, where rude and ridiculous people tend to post. It really is a shame how bad posters are ruining this site. For the few commenters who were reasonable, thank you for your responses.

To be fair, OP, your post WAS confusing. I was going to give you advice but I couldn't tell if you worked for one employer or two. You didn't mention that there was a second child until later. By the way, it doesn't matter how long your commute is or how bad the traffic is. Your employers expect you to be there ON TIME at the beginning of your work period. If your commute time varies from day to day due to traffic, you should assume that traffic will take the longest time and leave early enough so as not to be late. If you are early, you can sit in the car and entertain yourself on your phone or read.

+1. I don't think anyone was really being rude (and there are plenty of rude posters on DCUM just not on this thread). You are being WAY overly sensitive because some people disagreed with you. Your first post was unclear so a lot of the advice you disagree with is because those posters didn't understand the situation. With that said, I think it's fair for the family to pay your parking ticket since you got it because you were picking up their child. I really don't think they need to pay you to leave your house earlier though just because of traffic. No one gets paid for the time it takes them to commute to work. If it's a long drive and people don't want to do it then they take another job. If your employers are paying you for that time I hope you are incredibly kind and helpful to them in return because they are amazing employers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I only work afternoons with this family. My charge gets out at 1:05 and my compensated hours start at 1. I live 15-20 minutes away but sometimes there is traffic and parking is sometimes a problem, so I always leave my house by 12:15. I don't think it's fair to me to leave any earlier without pay. I'm already overly generous as it is because I would rather be 10 minutes early than 2 minutes late when going anywhere. I realize this is my personal issue with needing to be early so I never charged my nanny family for the extra time as I didn't want them to feel taken advantage of because I'm getting paid extra to essentially play on my phone in the car.

How far away you live and how early you leave are not your NF's concern. Find me one other person in ANY field who gets to factor fluctuations in commute time into their pay and maybe you'd have a point. You are not being overly generous by showing up to your job early as opposed to late. It is no one's responsibility besides your own to ensure that you are on time to work and, yes, finding legal parking needs to be factored into that. I (and many employees all over the country) show up to my job 30 min early each day to find parking and walk from however far that may be, I would never dream of asking an employer to compensate me for that time. If you bring this issue up, be prepared to find a new job.

[Anonymous]

My nanny did not stop at a red light before making a right turn and was caught by a red light camera. She was driving our nanny car with our child as a passenger. Thankfully, there was no accident but we expect to receive a citation in the mail soon. She was very apologetic and said she will pay for the ticket and go to traffic school to remove the point. The ticket will be in the high $300s. They were on their way to grab lunch so there was no reason to rush. WWYD? This is her second such ticket, the first being in her own car alone a few months ago.

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Anonymous wrote:My nanny did not stop at a red light before making a right turn and was caught by a red light camera. She was driving our nanny car with our child as a passenger. Thankfully, there was no accident but we expect to receive a citation in the mail soon. She was very apologetic and said she will pay for the ticket and go to traffic school to remove the point. The ticket will be in the high $300s. They were on their way to grab lunch so there was no reason to rush. WWYD? This is her second such ticket, the first being in her own car alone a few months ago.

She pays and the car is revoked. What if they had been hit? There is no excuse for any lapse in driving judgement with kids in the car.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My nanny did not stop at a red light before making a right turn and was caught by a red light camera. She was driving our nanny car with our child as a passenger. Thankfully, there was no accident but we expect to receive a citation in the mail soon. She was very apologetic and said she will pay for the ticket and go to traffic school to remove the point. The ticket will be in the high $300s. They were on their way to grab lunch so there was no reason to rush. WWYD? This is her second such ticket, the first being in her own car alone a few months ago.

She pays and the car is revoked. What if they had been hit? There is no excuse for any lapse in driving judgement with kids in the car.

But the job requires that she drive our child and we don't want her using her car for liability/insurance reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't think people were all that rude...

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Relax OP. No one was nasty. You sound really defensive.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My nanny did not stop at a red light before making a right turn and was caught by a red light camera. She was driving our nanny car with our child as a passenger. Thankfully, there was no accident but we expect to receive a citation in the mail soon. She was very apologetic and said she will pay for the ticket and go to traffic school to remove the point. The ticket will be in the high $300s. They were on their way to grab lunch so there was no reason to rush. WWYD? This is her second such ticket, the first being in her own car alone a few months ago.

She pays and the car is revoked. What if they had been hit? There is no excuse for any lapse in driving judgement with kids in the car.

But the job requires that she drive our child and we don't want her using her car for liability/insurance reasons.

In that case, in addition to traffic school and paying the ticket, she needs to be on notice that a third ticket means she will lose her job because an unsafe driver is not able to fulfill the duties of the position. If you think she might hide a ticket in her personal vehicle, then you should also tell her you will be checking her driving record every three months for the next year.

HOWEVER, this was not the most serious traffic violation, so depending on what the other one was for, I might not worry so much. I just got a ticket the same way -- rolled through a red light to make a right turn, got caught by the camera. The fine was only $75, though, and no points.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My nanny did not stop at a red light before making a right turn and was caught by a red light camera. She was driving our nanny car with our child as a passenger. Thankfully, there was no accident but we expect to receive a citation in the mail soon. She was very apologetic and said she will pay for the ticket and go to traffic school to remove the point. The ticket will be in the high $300s. They were on their way to grab lunch so there was no reason to rush. WWYD? This is her second such ticket, the first being in her own car alone a few months ago.

She pays and the car is revoked. What if they had been hit? There is no excuse for any lapse in driving judgement with kids in the car.

She should follow the laws and not get tickets of course, but you are overreacting for sure. We all know most of the traffic laws are just money grabs for the police, you don't need to come to a complete stop to make a legal right on red much of the time, especially when there is no traffic. The nanny likely didn't put the child in ANY danger.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't think people were all that rude...

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Relax OP. No one was nasty. You sound really defensive.

NP. Yes, you were ms nasty.