Can We Fix the Endless Frustration Here ?

[Anonymous]

16:23 is very strange. She doesn't know that some nannies are very highly paid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What is all the anger/rage really about?

It seems like some nannies are just jealous of their employer's lifestyle. The bizarre expectation that some nannies have that they should get a% of the employer's net worth rather than be paid market rates isn't something you see in other fields. You may see employees in other fields want more money but the nanny perspective here is just very strange.

Nanny positions are not high paying jobs. If you want to make more money you need to find a different field of work. This will require more education, skills, and the ability to compete against other people who also want to make more money.

This is certainly true for some nannies, but I don't think even the majority feel that way.

And FWIW, I make more money as a nanny than I did as a (successful) teacher and work far fewer hours. I turned down a new teaching job in order to return to nannying and am so thankful I did. (Although what this says about how we pay our teachers is likely more important than the distinction between how "high paying" nanny jobs are!)

[Anonymous]

Some parents simply want the best education for their child, and can afford it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a lot of this stems from jealousy, lack of standards and the fact that nanny jobs are not long term so nannies are always starting over and never getting much farther than when they started.

Nannies don't have co-workers who are in the same job with the same terms as they are and there are no real standard since every job is different. They hear one nanny brag about getting to watch NetFlix all day, getting an extra five weeks of paid vacation, and getting a high salary without knowing whether she is telling the truth or not. They get pissed off that they don't have all these amazing perks too.

Nannies are not dumber than other entry level employees but since they are working for an individual employer rather than a company they need to know how to ask or negotiate up front for benefits and compensation. If you go work at a daycare, the schedule, pay, PTO and any benefits is defined for you upfront by the company. You don't really have much room to negotiate but its clear what the terms are when you are hired. Individual employers don't know or think to do this and nannies don't know or think to ask before they are hired.

It is a dead end job. You can love it and there is nothing wrong with having a job rather than a career. However, it is what it is. A nanny job will last a few years and then you start over. You may be more marketable but you are stuck within the types of jobs that are offered in your market.

The field attracts a lot of people who failed at teaching or are generally not employable in other fields. The problems that led them to fail in other areas make them just as unhappy in their nanny job.

[phone] ------- I COMPLETELY agree. Not all nannies are like this but a good majority of them come on these boards with a fragile ego and it shows more than they think. I do think alot lie as well. There was one nanny on one of these posts last year who claimed to have gotten a 12,000 bonus. I've seen threads with people claiming to have worked for celebrities but left because they were highly unhappy with the demanding job and pressure of outsiders and paparazzi. It might be true but when more than one person leaves a similar comment you start to wonder, are they just making this up to look like they have the opportunity to work for high-profile families that weren't 'up to their standards' but turned it down. -- It's this kinda stuff that makes SOME nannies look pathetic almost. Not all, I have nothing against the Nanny career. Just my take on things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some parents simply want the best education for their child, and can afford it.

Some of you are plain jealous. Shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The prevalence of this idea by many MBs on this board also leads to a lot of the frustration. There is an assumption that none of us are educated, qualified, or have any work experience outside of nannying. There is an assumption that we are all stupid poor and foreign, and in some people's eyes lower class and not worthy of the respect they show their peers. There is of course nannies who may fall into these stereotypes (not that they are unworthy of respect) but it is not all of us, as you can see from the many educated, professional, and experienced nannies represented on this board.

As a nanny, you've never conducted a nanny search. You receive over 100 responses to one ad. You need to throw out 80 of them because the candidates are people who just aren't qualified for anything else! You do see a good number of teaching rejects who just can't find a job teaching so are looking to be a nanny until they find a teaching job or who were actually just daycare workers calling themselves teachers looking for more money and less supervision work. They can probably do the job fine but this isn't what they want or wanted to do which probably makes them bitter.

A good majority of the nanny posts on this board do not present nannies in a flattering light at all! It may be a few bad apples but most of the nanny posts here are bitter, angry, entitled, and uneducated. They give the impression that nannies are generally incompetent people with bad work ethics and a big chip on their shoulder.

PP, reread your first paragraph and then your second. If you don't see some irony in your own statements you probably should refrain from making any further comments.

[Anonymous]

6:04 should refrain from her untethered urge to control other adults.

[Anonymous]

6:51 should try being coherent when he/she posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:6:51 should try being coherent when he/she posts.

Is there anything you need help with, dear, or is it just that time of day for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6:51 should try being coherent when he/she posts.

Is there anything you need help with, dear, or is it just that time of day for you?

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

The consensus with MBs is that nannies are lazy, stupid, and overpaid.
MBs are jealous and have a lot of guilt about leaving their children for most of their waking hours to a nanny who is the surrogate mother. This jealous and guilt is manifested by treating the nanny as a servant, maid, and babysitter but not treated as a nanny.

If nannies, APs, babysitters were treated with courtesy and respect the frustration might end. FWIW, I am not a nanny but my sympathies are witb them.

[Anonymous]

15:29 nailed it.

[Anonymous]

I actually don't think that moms think that their own nanny is lazy, stupid, or overpaid. (Unless of course they made a first hiring mistake and did hire someone who is dumb and lazy.) I do think that many of the nanny posts on this board make you all look dumb, lazy and overpaid which is too bad. There are great nannies out there.

MBs don't offer jobs that include light housekeeping because they feel guilty. The offer jobs with light housekeeping because they don't have time to do laundry and have decided to outsource it. There's really no psychodrama to it all.

If you don't want to do anything for 3-4 hours a day while being paid don't take jobs that include light housekeeping. Nannies get pissed off more because its hard to find jobs that allow this much downtime and don't require much real work. Too bad for you.

[Anonymous]

15:20, don't presume to speak for a group of which you are not a member.

If everyone on these boards were capable of treating each other w/ some respect, courtesy and professional this would be a much more useful and humane space.

The nasty generalizing about nannies or MBs serve no one at all, except those who get thrills from generating tension.

[Anonymous]

15:55, too bad for you, for not understanding the basic difference between a nanny and a housekeeper.

There is no job description of a nanny that says to keep herself busy, unless it's yours.

A Nanny cares for children.

A housekeeper keeps house.

Notice the difference?