Why doesn't MCPS seem to have a covid plan for the fall?

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Anonymous wrote:Covid is not going away, after delta passes they’ll be some new variant. The vaccines are looking like they’ll be more like flu vaccines, so covid will sometimes spread in schools but hopefully we can minimize it with good ventilation, testing and masks. We need to live with this virus. Kids need in person school not only for academic benefits but for the social benefits too. With virtual school, they lose out on all the socialization that happens during in person school. MCPS absolutely better open 5 days a week with full in person instruction. I personally think any risks of sending my kids in person is far outweighed by the benefit from getting in person instruction and socialization time with their peers.


You want your kids in person school. Some kids need to be in in person school as they have a really bad home life. Others did just fine in virtual. We aren't going to have good ventilation or testing. You may be ok with your child getting it but others of us aren't. I think the rights of in person are not worth it right now as it can be deadly to kids who cannot be vaccinated yet.


So I assume when your kids were babies you kept them totally isolated from going anywhere and everything until they were vaccinated for the flu, and until they were well passed the danger zone for getting seriously ill from rsv? Those were both likely way more dangerous to your kids as babies than covid is to your elementary age kids. I am not saying anyone wants their kid to get covid, but I don’t think parents are being very rational about what they allow their kids to do with covid (now that the most at risk population of adults has been vaccinated) vs what they allowed before covid when all these other viruses that cause serious illness in some were circulating with no precautions at all in place.


Yes, I did keep mine home when they were little and was very careful. You may not think some of us are being rational but our kids aren't vaccinated and covid is ramping up. I think its disappointing that parents like you think its no big deal and don't understand your choices impact our kids health which force us to make difficult choices, including keeping ours home. If you read the treads, at least one (or multiple) parents have been clear that they will send their kids if they have covid and opt out of testing. There are also a lot of breakthrough cases so it puts us adults who are vaccinated at risk too.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.


That's the issue. Such poor communication by MCPS so it fuels the rumor mill. They should state their plans clearly, even if it's "We'll release our plan on XX date".


Nope nope nope. MCPS is not responsible for DCUM rumormongering. DCUM posters are responsible for DCUM rumormongering.


Its August 9th and school is starting in a few weeks. Its not unreasonable to ask MCPS to provide a plan on how they plan to keep our kids safe and healthy. A good education is great but its not particularly helpful if you have a dead child.
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Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.



What’s in the Friday announcement?


We’ll find out on Friday.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Covid is not going away, after delta passes they’ll be some new variant. The vaccines are looking like they’ll be more like flu vaccines, so covid will sometimes spread in schools but hopefully we can minimize it with good ventilation, testing and masks. We need to live with this virus. Kids need in person school not only for academic benefits but for the social benefits too. With virtual school, they lose out on all the socialization that happens during in person school. MCPS absolutely better open 5 days a week with full in person instruction. I personally think any risks of sending my kids in person is far outweighed by the benefit from getting in person instruction and socialization time with their peers.


You want your kids in person school. Some kids need to be in in person school as they have a really bad home life. Others did just fine in virtual. We aren't going to have good ventilation or testing. You may be ok with your child getting it but others of us aren't. I think the rights of in person are not worth it right now as it can be deadly to kids who cannot be vaccinated yet.


So I assume when your kids were babies you kept them totally isolated from going anywhere and everything until they were vaccinated for the flu, and until they were well passed the danger zone for getting seriously ill from rsv? Those were both likely way more dangerous to your kids as babies than covid is to your elementary age kids. I am not saying anyone wants their kid to get covid, but I don’t think parents are being very rational about what they allow their kids to do with covid (now that the most at risk population of adults has been vaccinated) vs what they allowed before covid when all these other viruses that cause serious illness in some were circulating with no precautions at all in place.


Yes, I did keep mine home when they were little and was very careful. You may not think some of us are being rational but our kids aren't vaccinated and covid is ramping up. I think its disappointing that parents like you think its no big deal and don't understand your choices impact our kids health which force us to make difficult choices, including keeping ours home. If you read the treads, at least one (or multiple) parents have been clear that they will send their kids if they have covid and opt out of testing. There are also a lot of breakthrough cases so it puts us adults who are vaccinated at risk too.



I never said it was no big deal, but I do think it’s something we have to learn to live with and can’t keep our kids out of school for another year or two of it. Covid is not going away, and it’s clear the vaccine alone does not stop transmission. Virtual learning is not good for the majority of kids, and not being in school greatly impacts their social development. I have been extremely careful with my kids. So much so besides school, they have maybe been indoors in a public place less than 10 times this entire pandemic.
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Anonymous wrote:Many schools remained open last year through out the country. Right now red states with a high case rates are not even questioning the opening of schools for in-person. What is wrong with the DC area patents? Our area has high vaccination rate plus people are in general cautious. Why can’t we just let our kids go to school ? Why do we have to make this so difficult for mcps that they think about backtracking in person school?
Kids have been in camps all summer. In groups of 25. Yes the counselors were vaccinated and the kids remained safe. We have to try to give our kids a normal school year .. as normal as possible. Stop the hysteria and fear mongering.


I think we all want the same thing. We all want the schools to open! Here’s the difference. Those of us who want a plan and/or want some safety mitigation think if we make schools safer and create thoughtful contingency plans, then schools will actually have a better chance of staying open because transmission will be reduced and mitigated. Others of you just want to open no matter what and think if we plan too much or pay too much attention to safety that somehow this will get in the way of opening. I personally see this POV as irresponsible and lacking in care for our students, school staff and community at large. Communicating protocols in an unprecedented time =/= backtracking in person school!


I don't disagree with the need for a plan, but you are SO condescending that I doubt whatever plan they have would satisfy you. If you are purporting to speak for the "plan" proponents, I'll take my chances with no plan.

Because, yes, putting out a plan months in advance gives people like you the chance to pick it apart and throw a fit when it's not exponentially more restrictive than the CDC or whatever.


MCPS is not following CDC recommendations outside of masking.


I was referring to last school year, when Dr. Gayles mysteriously recommending guidelines that were more restrictive than freaking CHOP, with *zero* justification, and a bunch of us had to fight tooth and nail to get them to change, against the very loud voices of many parents who thought more restrictive than CHOP was better. Again, with no justification.


And you were fighting to be less protective, with no justification. But you think you are right because that’s how you approach everything in life.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid is not going away, after delta passes they’ll be some new variant. The vaccines are looking like they’ll be more like flu vaccines, so covid will sometimes spread in schools but hopefully we can minimize it with good ventilation, testing and masks. We need to live with this virus. Kids need in person school not only for academic benefits but for the social benefits too. With virtual school, they lose out on all the socialization that happens during in person school. MCPS absolutely better open 5 days a week with full in person instruction. I personally think any risks of sending my kids in person is far outweighed by the benefit from getting in person instruction and socialization time with their peers.


You want your kids in person school. Some kids need to be in in person school as they have a really bad home life. Others did just fine in virtual. We aren't going to have good ventilation or testing. You may be ok with your child getting it but others of us aren't. I think the rights of in person are not worth it right now as it can be deadly to kids who cannot be vaccinated yet.


So I assume when your kids were babies you kept them totally isolated from going anywhere and everything until they were vaccinated for the flu, and until they were well passed the danger zone for getting seriously ill from rsv? Those were both likely way more dangerous to your kids as babies than covid is to your elementary age kids. I am not saying anyone wants their kid to get covid, but I don’t think parents are being very rational about what they allow their kids to do with covid (now that the most at risk population of adults has been vaccinated) vs what they allowed before covid when all these other viruses that cause serious illness in some were circulating with no precautions at all in place.


NP here and I’m a parent whose child contracted RSV at two weeks old from an older sibling. My newborn fought for his life in a NICU for four weeks. But had there been a vaccine to protect him from that horror, I would have gladly gotten it or had him get it. And knowing what I discovered through that nightmare would have been far more cautious about where my oldest was during that time.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.


That's the issue. Such poor communication by MCPS so it fuels the rumor mill. They should state their plans clearly, even if it's "We'll release our plan on XX date".


Nope nope nope. MCPS is not responsible for DCUM rumormongering. DCUM posters are responsible for DCUM rumormongering.


Its August 9th and school is starting in a few weeks. Its not unreasonable to ask MCPS to provide a plan on how they plan to keep our kids safe and healthy. A good education is great but its not particularly helpful if you have a dead child.


They have provided the plan. Your issue is that you think their plan is inadequate.
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Here’s my prediction. I think they will add mandatory weekly testing. That’s what Los Angeles is doing. They may also add mandatory MCPS employee vax (or routine test).
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Anonymous wrote:Here’s my prediction. I think they will add mandatory weekly testing. That’s what Los Angeles is doing. They may also add mandatory MCPS employee vax (or routine test).



PP again. This would actually kill two birds with one stone. It will catch most cases before spread happens or enough that people will shut up about lunch. And they don’t have to do anything else. Testing and masks. It’s like maximum benefit for minimum effort. The state has even made money available for testing.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.


That's the issue. Such poor communication by MCPS so it fuels the rumor mill. They should state their plans clearly, even if it's "We'll release our plan on XX date".


Nope nope nope. MCPS is not responsible for DCUM rumormongering. DCUM posters are responsible for DCUM rumormongering.


Its August 9th and school is starting in a few weeks. Its not unreasonable to ask MCPS to provide a plan on how they plan to keep our kids safe and healthy. A good education is great but its not particularly helpful if you have a dead child.


+1 this is eroding my trust in MCPS. I hope they consider SOCIAL DISTANCING before declaring all full time school for all
spudmqueen
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.


That's the issue. Such poor communication by MCPS so it fuels the rumor mill. They should state their plans clearly, even if it's "We'll release our plan on XX date".


Nope nope nope. MCPS is not responsible for DCUM rumormongering. DCUM posters are responsible for DCUM rumormongering.


Its August 9th and school is starting in a few weeks. Its not unreasonable to ask MCPS to provide a plan on how they plan to keep our kids safe and healthy. A good education is great but its not particularly helpful if you have a dead child.


They have provided the plan. Your issue is that you think their plan is inadequate.


Seriously? the plan to pretend Delta isn't 5 times more transmittable? the plan to pretend that kids don't get sick from Covid? Or the "let's be the pilot school in this high risk situation"? Which plan is the one you think they are following?
Anonymous
spudmqueen wrote:
+1 this is eroding my trust in MCPS. I hope they consider SOCIAL DISTANCING before declaring all full time school for all


They are not going to declare all full time school for all, because there is the Virtual Academy. For students not in the Virtual Academy, they already declared 100% capacity, 5 days a week, months ago.
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spudmqueen wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.


That's the issue. Such poor communication by MCPS so it fuels the rumor mill. They should state their plans clearly, even if it's "We'll release our plan on XX date".


Nope nope nope. MCPS is not responsible for DCUM rumormongering. DCUM posters are responsible for DCUM rumormongering.


Its August 9th and school is starting in a few weeks. Its not unreasonable to ask MCPS to provide a plan on how they plan to keep our kids safe and healthy. A good education is great but its not particularly helpful if you have a dead child.


They have provided the plan. Your issue is that you think their plan is inadequate.


Seriously? the plan to pretend Delta isn't 5 times more transmittable? the plan to pretend that kids don't get sick from Covid? Or the "let's be the pilot school in this high risk situation"? Which plan is the one you think they are following?


Yes, your issue is that you think their plan is inadequate.
spudmqueen
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spudmqueen wrote:
+1 this is eroding my trust in MCPS. I hope they consider SOCIAL DISTANCING before declaring all full time school for all


They are not going to declare all full time school for all, because there is the Virtual Academy. For students not in the Virtual Academy, they already declared 100% capacity, 5 days a week, months ago.


Actually it closed in at the end of June. Just before delta got its teeth in the US. And they were underwhelmed by the number of applicants. They anticipated they'd be fuller. And, wow, i didn't know people could predict the future. Sorry I know I'm being snarky but I'm tired of the relentless anxiety of this pandemic (well my anxiety lol).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rumors we will know details on Friday from admin. Lots of rumors right now though. Most agree hybrid sucked the most and was ineffective.


That's the issue. Such poor communication by MCPS so it fuels the rumor mill. They should state their plans clearly, even if it's "We'll release our plan on XX date".


Nope nope nope. MCPS is not responsible for DCUM rumormongering. DCUM posters are responsible for DCUM rumormongering.


The best way to counter rumor-mongering is with facts. If MCPS had a public plan, it would be easy to refer to that.
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