Why doesn't MCPS seem to have a covid plan for the fall?

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't really make any sense given that so many other vaccines stay effective for years

This virus is RNA virus, mutating very fast. Think about flu vaccine, which lasts only 6 months

This is painful. You mean it's an mRNA vaccine. A virus is a virus. There are no mRNA viruses.

Seriously, go polish your knowledge about RNA virus and DNA virus.

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Here's the flaw in your response:
Vaccines are highly effective .................But they lose.effectiveness past the 6 month mark. I don't know about you but my 6 month mark is in September. It's going to be shit show if they don't allow a booster to all adults in September or October. I suspect they will do just that unless children are able to be vaccinated by that time (which seems more unlikely)
If less adults take the Fall Booster, which is also probable, you can't count t on the vaccine to keep schools open

[citation needed]

Is there something wrong with your Google??
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers-ceo-says-covid-vaccine-effectiveness-drops-to-84percent-after-six-months.html

So, according to Pfizer's CEO, the effectiveness drops from the upper 90%s to 84%. In other words, after 6 months, it's still a highly effective vaccine.

Outdated information. The trial was done pre-delta. There are multiple studies saying Pfizer has only 30-50% efficacy toward delta. The ones inoculated early have much lower immunity.

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1425798861591777284?s=21

Yes, but Moderna didn't drop that low and many scientists think it is because the dosage is higher than Pfizer's.

Probably also because moderna was given at a later time than Pfizer. It also takes 4 weeks for two doses. So I’m expecting moderna efficacy may drop to 40% in a month or 2. Efficacy toward covid infection correlates well with circulating antibody levels and by 6 months the levels have one log reduction.

When will Moderna be available for kids age 12-17?

Why isn’t Moderna available under EUA for that age group now?

The 'E' in EUA stands for emergency. And there's not currently an emergency for that age group.

It's actually good to see the FDA showing some restraint in approving.

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Mcps should have added.hepa filters throughout the school and in every classroom. Have they?

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Here's the flaw in your response:
Vaccines are highly effective .................But they lose.effectiveness past the 6 month mark. I don't know about you but my 6 month mark is in September. It's going to be shit show if they don't allow a booster to all adults in September or October. I suspect they will do just that unless children are able to be vaccinated by that time (which seems more unlikely)
If less adults take the Fall Booster, which is also probable, you can't count t on the vaccine to keep schools open

[citation needed]

Is there something wrong with your Google??
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers-ceo-says-covid-vaccine-effectiveness-drops-to-84percent-after-six-months.html

So, according to Pfizer's CEO, the effectiveness drops from the upper 90%s to 84%. In other words, after 6 months, it's still a highly effective vaccine.

Outdated information. The trial was done pre-delta. There are multiple studies saying Pfizer has only 30-50% efficacy toward delta. The ones inoculated early have much lower immunity.

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1425798861591777284?s=21

Yes, but Moderna didn't drop that low and many scientists think it is because the dosage is higher than Pfizer's.

Probably also because moderna was given at a later time than Pfizer. It also takes 4 weeks for two doses. So I’m expecting moderna efficacy may drop to 40% in a month or 2. Efficacy toward covid infection correlates well with circulating antibody levels and by 6 months the levels have one log reduction.

When will Moderna be available for kids age 12-17?

Why isn’t Moderna available under EUA for that age group now?

The 'E' in EUA stands for emergency. And there's not currently an emergency for that age group.

It's actually good to see the FDA showing some restraint in approving.

Please keep up. ICU's are now full of kids because of delta.

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Anonymous wrote:They could provide virtual option for elementary school at least. I think lots of parents would like that. MS and HS students, yes, have the vaccine available and they should be in person and keep wearing masks.

Last year, elementary parents were the ones yelling loudest about how kids can't learn via zoom. That it wasn't developmentally appropriate, that they had to rearrange, modify, or even leave their own jobs to supervise online learning, that their kids were agitated, depressed, developing eye issues. There was a huge outcry to at least send elementary kids back in person if MCPS couldn't manage to open all the schools, because that age were least likely to be able to adapt to virtual learning.

I doubt "lots" of parents would be willing to go through that again. Many, many more would prefer in-person with appropriate precautions.

until their kids start getting sick on week #3

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Anonymous wrote:They could provide virtual option for elementary school at least. I think lots of parents would like that. MS and HS students, yes, have the vaccine available and they should be in person and keep wearing masks.

Last year, elementary parents were the ones yelling loudest about how kids can't learn via zoom. That it wasn't developmentally appropriate, that they had to rearrange, modify, or even leave their own jobs to supervise online learning, that their kids were agitated, depressed, developing eye issues. There was a huge outcry to at least send elementary kids back in person if MCPS couldn't manage to open all the schools, because that age were least likely to be able to adapt to virtual learning.

I doubt "lots" of parents would be willing to go through that again. Many, many more would prefer in-person with appropriate precautions.

until their kids start getting sick on week #3

Yeah school will start in person, but then will be forced to switch to hybrid or virtual when pediatric ICU is full.

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Here's the flaw in your response:
Vaccines are highly effective .................But they lose.effectiveness past the 6 month mark. I don't know about you but my 6 month mark is in September. It's going to be shit show if they don't allow a booster to all adults in September or October. I suspect they will do just that unless children are able to be vaccinated by that time (which seems more unlikely)
If less adults take the Fall Booster, which is also probable, you can't count t on the vaccine to keep schools open

[citation needed]

Is there something wrong with your Google??
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers-ceo-says-covid-vaccine-effectiveness-drops-to-84percent-after-six-months.html

So, according to Pfizer's CEO, the effectiveness drops from the upper 90%s to 84%. In other words, after 6 months, it's still a highly effective vaccine.

Outdated information. The trial was done pre-delta. There are multiple studies saying Pfizer has only 30-50% efficacy toward delta. The ones inoculated early have much lower immunity.

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1425798861591777284?s=21

Yes, but Moderna didn't drop that low and many scientists think it is because the dosage is higher than Pfizer's.

Probably also because moderna was given at a later time than Pfizer. It also takes 4 weeks for two doses. So I’m expecting moderna efficacy may drop to 40% in a month or 2. Efficacy toward covid infection correlates well with circulating antibody levels and by 6 months the levels have one log reduction.

When will Moderna be available for kids age 12-17?

Why isn’t Moderna available under EUA for that age group now?

The 'E' in EUA stands for emergency. And there's not currently an emergency for that age group.

It's actually good to see the FDA showing some restraint in approving.

Please keep up. ICU's are now full of kids because of delta.

The "please keep up" response is so tiresome and unclever. A big reason why the EUA has been slow for the 5-11 age group is because the FDA was weighing how much of an emergency it was vs. the potential side vaccine side effects. They asked for more trial participants so that they could collect more diverse safety data. What percentage of ICU's are full with kids? And how much of that is Delta-related? Help me "keep up".

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Anonymous wrote:I blame Hogan. He promised people 180 days of in person school but hasn’t been any help in making that a safe reality. [/quote

I know why can't he be more like Ron DeSantis!

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Here's the flaw in your response:
Vaccines are highly effective .................But they lose.effectiveness past the 6 month mark. I don't know about you but my 6 month mark is in September. It's going to be shit show if they don't allow a booster to all adults in September or October. I suspect they will do just that unless children are able to be vaccinated by that time (which seems more unlikely)
If less adults take the Fall Booster, which is also probable, you can't count t on the vaccine to keep schools open

[citation needed]

Is there something wrong with your Google??
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/pfizers-ceo-says-covid-vaccine-effectiveness-drops-to-84percent-after-six-months.html

So, according to Pfizer's CEO, the effectiveness drops from the upper 90%s to 84%. In other words, after 6 months, it's still a highly effective vaccine.

Outdated information. The trial was done pre-delta. There are multiple studies saying Pfizer has only 30-50% efficacy toward delta. The ones inoculated early have much lower immunity.

https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1425798861591777284?s=21

Yes, but Moderna didn't drop that low and many scientists think it is because the dosage is higher than Pfizer's.

Probably also because moderna was given at a later time than Pfizer. It also takes 4 weeks for two doses. So I’m expecting moderna efficacy may drop to 40% in a month or 2. Efficacy toward covid infection correlates well with circulating antibody levels and by 6 months the levels have one log reduction.

When will Moderna be available for kids age 12-17?

Why isn’t Moderna available under EUA for that age group now?

The 'E' in EUA stands for emergency. And there's not currently an emergency for that age group.

It's actually good to see the FDA showing some restraint in approving.

Please keep up. ICU's are now full of kids because of delta.

The "please keep up" response is so tiresome and unclever. A big reason why the EUA has been slow for the 5-11 age group is because the FDA was weighing how much of an emergency it was vs. the potential side vaccine side effects. They asked for more trial participants so that they could collect more diverse safety data. What percentage of ICU's are full with kids? And how much of that is Delta-related? Help me "keep up".

Pfizer hasn’t even submitted EUA application yet.

[Anonymous]

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spudmqueen wrote:
+1 this is eroding my trust in MCPS. I hope they consider SOCIAL DISTANCING before declaring all full time school for all

They are not going to declare all full time school for all, because there is the Virtual Academy. For students not in the Virtual Academy, they already declared 100% capacity, 5 days a week, months ago.

You’ve repeated yourself at least half a dozen times on this thread.

100% capacity, 5 days a week, with masks.

Yea, we know. We read your post the first time. It’s still not a complete mitigation and contingency plan, no matter how many times you repeat yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did I miss a meeting or announcement? What is the plan for testing? For lunch? For encouraging vaccinations? How will they handle travel and quarantine and informing people of positive cases? Shouldn't there be a comprehensive district wide plan for all these things?

They do! They just haven't told you yet, but let me clue you in. They're going to announce late on Friday, August 27th that children will once again be able to experience the joys of virtual school!

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Anonymous wrote:Did I miss a meeting or announcement? What is the plan for testing? For lunch? For encouraging vaccinations? How will they handle travel and quarantine and informing people of positive cases? Shouldn't there be a comprehensive district wide plan for all these things?

They do! They just haven't told you yet, but let me clue you in. They're going to announce late on Friday, August 27th that children will once again be able to experience the joys of virtual school!

They already announced that in June: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/virtualacademy/ or was it May?