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[Post New]12/01/2021 08:40
Anonymous
Thanks Brandon!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/november-private-payrolls-adp-employment-131551829.html

November private payrolls rose by 534,000 topping expectations: ADP
[Post New]12/01/2021 08:41
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Down 650 points today, but don't you worry another 3 trillion of fiscal spending will take care of it.


The Dow was down on concerns over Omicron. If everyone would get vaccinated, it would help mitigate any economic impact. But since the GOP refuses writ large to do so, people like you don't get to complain about paper market losses.



BTW, how much is the market up since Jan 20? Or to use Trump's metric, since November 6, 2020?
[Post New]12/01/2021 08:56
BlueFredneck
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Down 650 points today, but don't you worry another 3 trillion of fiscal spending will take care of it.


The Dow was down on concerns over Omicron. If everyone would get vaccinated, it would help mitigate any economic impact. But since the GOP refuses writ large to do so, people like you don't get to complain about paper market losses.



BTW, how much is the market up since Jan 20? Or to use Trump's metric, since November 6, 2020?


We can't force people in other countries to get vaccinated. We also can't do anything about the immuno-compromised in other countries, which (from the most preliminary research) it seems Omicron (and other variants) can thrive.

At this point, the focus needs to be on post-infection treatment, which for some reason, the vaccine skeptics seem eager to take. If people want to give Big Pharma $5k for some monoclonal antibodies or $500 for some pills, instead of the $50 I gave Big Pharma for the booster I got Monday, why is it so important that I stop them?
[Post New]12/01/2021 08:58
Anonymous
My booster was free to me.

And yes, I will never understand the "i would rather be treated for an illness than just avoid getting sick in the first place" but that is the intellect and rationale of the modern GOP.
[Post New]12/01/2021 09:06
BlueFredneck
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Anonymous wrote:My booster was free to me.

And yes, I will never understand the "i would rather be treated for an illness than just avoid getting sick in the first place" but that is the intellect and rationale of the modern GOP.


It was free to me, too, but I figure someone, somewhere along the line gave Big Pharma $50.

For some reason, the vaccine skeptics have decided they'd rather hit up taxpayers and insurance companies an extra $450 or $4,950. I suppose eventually we'll run into some real money. But the thing is, we can't do a thing about vaccine skeptics outside the US.

I don't understand their willingness to subject themselves to experimental treatments, but I guess they're convinced the 1.5 billion plus people that've gotten a vaccine will regret it Any Day Now.

I still wish I had enhanced 5G, though. That'd have been cool.
[Post New]12/01/2021 09:08
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Down 650 points today, but don't you worry another 3 trillion of fiscal spending will take care of it.


The Dow was down on concerns over Omicron. If everyone would get vaccinated, it would help mitigate any economic impact. But since the GOP refuses writ large to do so, people like you don't get to complain about paper market losses.



BTW, how much is the market up since Jan 20? Or to use Trump's metric, since November 6, 2020?


My portfolio is booming and already made up the losses when Omicron was announced. Thanks Brandon!
[Post New]12/01/2021 09:11
Anonymous
BlueFredneck wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My booster was free to me.

And yes, I will never understand the "i would rather be treated for an illness than just avoid getting sick in the first place" but that is the intellect and rationale of the modern GOP.


It was free to me, too, but I figure someone, somewhere along the line gave Big Pharma $50.

For some reason, the vaccine skeptics have decided they'd rather hit up taxpayers and insurance companies an extra $450 or $4,950. I suppose eventually we'll run into some real money. But the thing is, we can't do a thing about vaccine skeptics outside the US.

I don't understand their willingness to subject themselves to experimental treatments, but I guess they're convinced the 1.5 billion plus people that've gotten a vaccine will regret it Any Day Now.

I still wish I had enhanced 5G, though. That'd have been cool.


Astounding how they consider the approved vaccines with hundreds of millions of doses administered with astronomically small (less than 0.001%) proven incidences of serious side effects to be "experimental" while happily going in whole hog on far more experimental and far-less studied things like horse paste and hydroxy chloroquine and monoclonal antibodies.
[Post New]12/01/2021 09:14
BlueFredneck
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Anonymous wrote:
BlueFredneck wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My booster was free to me.

And yes, I will never understand the "i would rather be treated for an illness than just avoid getting sick in the first place" but that is the intellect and rationale of the modern GOP.


It was free to me, too, but I figure someone, somewhere along the line gave Big Pharma $50.

For some reason, the vaccine skeptics have decided they'd rather hit up taxpayers and insurance companies an extra $450 or $4,950. I suppose eventually we'll run into some real money. But the thing is, we can't do a thing about vaccine skeptics outside the US.

I don't understand their willingness to subject themselves to experimental treatments, but I guess they're convinced the 1.5 billion plus people that've gotten a vaccine will regret it Any Day Now.

I still wish I had enhanced 5G, though. That'd have been cool.


Astounding how they consider the approved vaccines with hundreds of millions of doses administered with astronomically small (less than 0.001%) proven incidences of serious side effects to be "experimental" while happily going in whole hog on far more experimental and far-less studied things like horse paste and hydroxy chloroquine and monoclonal antibodies.


And don't forget how actually getting COVID has worse side effects than the vaccines in many/most cases (there might be some legit debate about getting the vaccine for the 16 and under crowd, but most of the strongly anti-vax folks I know are 40+, obese, and/or in otherwise poor health.)
[Post New]12/01/2021 16:24
Anonymous
Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.
[Post New]12/01/2021 16:27
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.


Sounds like I'm buying.
[Post New]12/01/2021 19:32
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.


Sounds like I'm buying.

+1 Gonna be wacky this week until the debt ceiling is resolved.
[Post New]12/01/2021 20:06
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.


1) how much is the DOW up since Jan 20?
2) every bull market lays steam. It is never a straight line.
3) Market is concerned about Omicron. If the GOP got vaccinated, it wouldn't impact the US economy so much.
[Post New]12/02/2021 08:12
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.


1) how much is the DOW up since Jan 20?
2) every bull market lays steam. It is never a straight line.
3) Market is concerned about Omicron. If the GOP got vaccinated, it wouldn't impact the US economy so much.


And there it is. Why do you think rightwing pushing anti-VAX? (I’m talking Fox, pols, not rightwing radio hosts who didn’t get the memo that this is all a grift). The GOP understands the Biden admin success rides on getting COVID under control so they push this farce. And don’t call me tin foil hat. There is no bottom to the GOP’s hatred of American and disdain for their supporters.
[Post New]12/02/2021 08:57
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.


1) how much is the DOW up since Jan 20?
2) every bull market lays steam. It is never a straight line.
3) Market is concerned about Omicron. If the GOP got vaccinated, it wouldn't impact the US economy so much.


And there it is. Why do you think rightwing pushing anti-VAX? (I’m talking Fox, pols, not rightwing radio hosts who didn’t get the memo that this is all a grift). The GOP understands the Biden admin success rides on getting COVID under control so they push this farce. And don’t call me tin foil hat. There is no bottom to the GOP’s hatred of American and disdain for their supporters.

+1
[Post New]12/02/2021 15:42
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another day, another 460 point drop in the djia. In the past four trading days that's about a 1,700 point drop.


1) how much is the DOW up since Jan 20?
2) every bull market lays steam. It is never a straight line.
3) Market is concerned about Omicron. If the GOP got vaccinated, it wouldn't impact the US economy so much.


And there it is. Why do you think rightwing pushing anti-VAX? (I’m talking Fox, pols, not rightwing radio hosts who didn’t get the memo that this is all a grift). The GOP understands the Biden admin success rides on getting COVID under control so they push this farce. And don’t call me tin foil hat. There is no bottom to the GOP’s hatred of American and disdain for their supporters.

+2
The GOP will absolutely keep covid going as long as is humanly possible to extract maximum damage. Of course they’re now extracting maximum damage primarily from their own constituents, but they’re still committing damage.

Much like how businesses are using all the talk about inflation as cover to raise prices to make inflation look worse. They don’t care, it’s a game to them.
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