NJ Governor shuts places of worship, but deems liquor stores "essential"

Anonymous
Frankly you can easily watch church on the internet.

People need liquor to cope. Try taking it away and people will riot
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isn't DC the same? Churches closed, liquor stores open?


Maryland too
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Frankly you can easily watch church on the internet.

People need liquor to cope. Try taking it away and people will riot


Plus you can cash checks and buy essential items like chips and lottery tickets. Mainly you don't get crowds of hundreds and most liquor stores the cashier is already protected by plexi-glass. So makes sense, and you can worship at home, set up own facebook group or watch TV preachers. Common sense
Anonymous
so what's the problem?
Anonymous
I really don’t see the problem here...places of worship gather many in a small space, liquor stores generally do not (should not- I support maximum numbers in the store at a time, encourage curbside pickups etc). Places of worship are equivalent to movie theaters risk wise, liquor stores are more equivalent to other small retail stores. I have heard of some churches leaving the bulletin in the narthex for pickup etc and that is fine with me.

I was under the impression the vast majority of religious leaders were onboard with social distancing, TBH.
Anonymous
Alcohol brings in revenue.

Perhaps we should tax churches?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Alcohol brings in revenue.

Perhaps we should tax churches?


Great idea.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:so what's the problem?


OP wants to make this about some sort of "war on religion" when actually restrictions on church assemblies are bipartisan and keeping liquor stores open is actually jut a matter of public health.

Alcohol is one of the few withdrawals that can kill a person. Other withdrawals might make you wish you were dead, but alcohol withdrawal can actually kill you. As a society, we neither need nor want to fill hospitals with detoxxing alcoholics right now.

I'm sorry for those people who feel cut off from their religious observance because of this virus, but the vast majority of religious institutions have brought some elements of the service online.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:so what's the problem?


OP wants to make this about some sort of "war on religion" when actually restrictions on church assemblies are bipartisan and keeping liquor stores open is actually jut a matter of public health.

Alcohol is one of the few withdrawals that can kill a person. Other withdrawals might make you wish you were dead, but alcohol withdrawal can actually kill you. As a society, we neither need nor want to fill hospitals with detoxxing alcoholics right now.

I'm sorry for those people who feel cut off from their religious observance because of this virus, but the vast majority of religious institutions have brought some elements of the service online.


And there is nothing stopping people from praying directly to god -- there never was. That direct line is always open. Religious services provide important camaraderie that has been lost, not only for people who are active members of religious communities, but people who belong to all sorts of non-religious groups that meet in person.

All that will return in time. Meanwhile, if you are religious, there is nothing stopping you from keeping that channel to the divine wide open.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don't be dim.

Many liquor stores also sell food items and may be the only store in a neighborhood.

Also, alcoholics can't just dry up on a whim... then you have angry people stuck at home, taking it out on their families.


But ANY religious organization can live stream their service on Facebook.


This.

OP, stop looking for reasons to be offended about your religion being persecuted.

Signed,
A Christian
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:so what's the problem?


OP wants to make this about some sort of "war on religion" when actually restrictions on church assemblies are bipartisan and keeping liquor stores open is actually jut a matter of public health.

Alcohol is one of the few withdrawals that can kill a person. Other withdrawals might make you wish you were dead, but alcohol withdrawal can actually kill you. As a society, we neither need nor want to fill hospitals with detoxxing alcoholics right now.

I'm sorry for those people who feel cut off from their religious observance because of this virus, but the vast majority of religious institutions have brought some elements of the service online.


This. Alcoholics going through withdrawl clog up emergency rooms and hospitals.
Anonymous
10% of drinkers are alcoholics. 50% of alcohol sales comes from the purchases by alcoholics.

Alcoholics in withdrawl die without alcohol and clog up emergency rooms detoxing. Detox takes several days generally in a hospital setting.
Anonymous
Judeo Christian teachings are okay with a bit of alcohol here and there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Judeo Christian teachings are okay with a bit of alcohol here and there.


2 On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, 2 and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3 When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.”

4 “Woman,[a] why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.”

5 His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.”

6 Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.[b]

7 Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim.

8 Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.”

They did so, 9 and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside 10 and said, “Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now.”

11 What Jesus did here in Cana of Galilee was the first of the signs through which he revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him.
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I personally think that wine shops should not be closed, because wine is fun and a way for people to escape from their daily routine just by enjoying the moment here and now. I think that wine is cool, I order wine myself from time to time. Moreover, I accidentally stumbled upon these people who sell it and did not regret it. And cults are people who are fanatical of non-existent things, therefore they close cults, non-wine shops. If I were a measure, I would fall just like that, just exactly the same. And people who are in cults are just those who can be controlled by faith.
P.s. I just shared my opinion and do not impose it on anyone)
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