Math league competition for 2nd grade

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are there other FCPS elementary schools participating in the Continental Math League competition? All of a sudden, our school is participating for 2nd grade. I’m wondering why. My older kids didn’t have this.


You might consider backing off a little and let you kid find things they enjoy on their own.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are there other FCPS elementary schools participating in the Continental Math League competition? All of a sudden, our school is participating for 2nd grade. I’m wondering why. My older kids didn’t have this.


You might consider backing off a little and let you kid find things they enjoy on their own.


CHILL OUT. OP might be wondering why this is all of the sudden coming up since it sounds like her school has never done it before.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm making my point poorly. For math contests, TJ is only going to care about standouts. These would be the kids who are likely to be strong members of TJ's math team and in the top 10 or so in their grade at TJ. These are the kids who are making it to Mathcounts nationals or qualifying for AIME in middle school. TJ is not going to care about elementary school math contests or mediocre results in middle school ones.

If a kid from Longfellow middle school places 10th at Mathcounts chapters, TJ will not likely be interested in that kid. It's an okay result, but most likely achieved by a kid who has been preparing for many years. Perhaps if a kid from Sandburg or Glasgow scored in the top 10, TJ would care, as those kids are unlikely to be the products of extreme prep.

The whole context, though, is that a PP argued that it's unfair for TJ admissions that some kids are getting CML while others aren't. CML is a lesser contest and will not make a difference in the kids' problem solving ability or their ability to access TJ. It's just not an important or good enough test.


Making it to AIME, USAJMO, or MathCounts nationals will not help get into TJ, as they don't look at these items.


Unless you mention it in your essay and then you're in like flynn!


No, TJ does not consider it for admission anymore, many schools do not participate in AMC8/MathCount etc.

Anonymous
If you want your kid doing it in school, you could offer to sponsor it for the whole grade. It is a little under $100 per grade, for 2-6.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm making my point poorly. For math contests, TJ is only going to care about standouts. These would be the kids who are likely to be strong members of TJ's math team and in the top 10 or so in their grade at TJ. These are the kids who are making it to Mathcounts nationals or qualifying for AIME in middle school. TJ is not going to care about elementary school math contests or mediocre results in middle school ones.

If a kid from Longfellow middle school places 10th at Mathcounts chapters, TJ will not likely be interested in that kid. It's an okay result, but most likely achieved by a kid who has been preparing for many years. Perhaps if a kid from Sandburg or Glasgow scored in the top 10, TJ would care, as those kids are unlikely to be the products of extreme prep.

The whole context, though, is that a PP argued that it's unfair for TJ admissions that some kids are getting CML while others aren't. CML is a lesser contest and will not make a difference in the kids' problem solving ability or their ability to access TJ. It's just not an important or good enough test.


Making it to AIME, USAJMO, or MathCounts nationals will not help get into TJ, as they don't look at these items.


Unless you mention it in your essay and then you're in like flynn!


No, TJ does not consider it for admission anymore, many schools do not participate in AMC8/MathCount etc.



But if you had participated and done well you'd be foolish to not mention it on your essays since it would weight heavily in your favor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm making my point poorly. For math contests, TJ is only going to care about standouts. These would be the kids who are likely to be strong members of TJ's math team and in the top 10 or so in their grade at TJ. These are the kids who are making it to Mathcounts nationals or qualifying for AIME in middle school. TJ is not going to care about elementary school math contests or mediocre results in middle school ones.

If a kid from Longfellow middle school places 10th at Mathcounts chapters, TJ will not likely be interested in that kid. It's an okay result, but most likely achieved by a kid who has been preparing for many years. Perhaps if a kid from Sandburg or Glasgow scored in the top 10, TJ would care, as those kids are unlikely to be the products of extreme prep.

The whole context, though, is that a PP argued that it's unfair for TJ admissions that some kids are getting CML while others aren't. CML is a lesser contest and will not make a difference in the kids' problem solving ability or their ability to access TJ. It's just not an important or good enough test.


Making it to AIME, USAJMO, or MathCounts nationals will not help get into TJ, as they don't look at these items.


Unless you mention it in your essay and then you're in like flynn!


If they cared about students who mention these accomplishments in their essays, then lies would be rampant
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are there other FCPS elementary schools participating in the Continental Math League competition? All of a sudden, our school is participating for 2nd grade. I’m wondering why. My older kids didn’t have this.


My kid is grade 4 and he participated in Beestar Online Math Competition in last October and he did well because that competition is goes by grade level so it is suitable for the kids in Elementary to participate in that competition. My son willing to join that competition in coming March.


Math Kangaroo and Beestar which one is the better one for the elementary kids to participate. Your honest answer would be highly appreciated. Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are there other FCPS elementary schools participating in the Continental Math League competition? All of a sudden, our school is participating for 2nd grade. I’m wondering why. My older kids didn’t have this.


My kid is grade 4 and he participated in Beestar Online Math Competition in last October and he did well because that competition is goes by grade level so it is suitable for the kids in Elementary to participate in that competition. My son willing to join that competition in coming March.


Math Kangaroo and Beestar which one is the better one for the elementary kids to participate. Your honest answer would be highly appreciated. Thank you.


I would say Math Olympiad is better, as well as CML.
Anonymous
My kids love math, but I just can't imagine making them do this. Especially not math kangaroo, which is my least favorite competition math program... I think this would spoil it for them. These contents may be somewhat helpful for older kids since the practice may help reinforce some concepts but memorizing a bunch of plug-and-chug problem types seems like a good way to turn math into drudgery.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids love math, but I just can't imagine making them do this. Especially not math kangaroo, which is my least favorite competition math program... I think this would spoil it for them. These contents may be somewhat helpful for older kids since the practice may help reinforce some concepts but memorizing a bunch of plug-and-chug problem types seems like a good way to turn math into drudgery.


Curious which level of Math Kangaroo problems you found to be very plug and chug? The problems I had tried with my kid (level 5-6) seemed to me to be on the opposite spectrum, almost too much puzzle/logic vs computational.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I'm making my point poorly. For math contests, TJ is only going to care about standouts. These would be the kids who are likely to be strong members of TJ's math team and in the top 10 or so in their grade at TJ. These are the kids who are making it to Mathcounts nationals or qualifying for AIME in middle school. TJ is not going to care about elementary school math contests or mediocre results in middle school ones.

If a kid from Longfellow middle school places 10th at Mathcounts chapters, TJ will not likely be interested in that kid. It's an okay result, but most likely achieved by a kid who has been preparing for many years. Perhaps if a kid from Sandburg or Glasgow scored in the top 10, TJ would care, as those kids are unlikely to be the products of extreme prep.

The whole context, though, is that a PP argued that it's unfair for TJ admissions that some kids are getting CML while others aren't. CML is a lesser contest and will not make a difference in the kids' problem solving ability or their ability to access TJ. It's just not an important or good enough test.


Making it to AIME, USAJMO, or MathCounts nationals will not help get into TJ, as they don't look at these items.


Unless you mention it in your essay and then you're in like flynn!


No, TJ does not consider it for admission anymore, many schools do not participate in AMC8/MathCount etc.



That isn't an obstacle for anyone determined to showcase their superior math prowess!
Anonymous
pettifogger wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids love math, but I just can't imagine making them do this. Especially not math kangaroo, which is my least favorite competition math program... I think this would spoil it for them. These contents may be somewhat helpful for older kids since the practice may help reinforce some concepts but memorizing a bunch of plug-and-chug problem types seems like a good way to turn math into drudgery.


Curious which level of Math Kangaroo problems you found to be very plug and chug? The problems I had tried with my kid (level 5-6) seemed to me to be on the opposite spectrum, almost too much puzzle/logic vs computational.


I agree they do favor logic and puzzles, but I find that is also trainable with practice. Is it worth doing? To me sure, I think that has some value but only if you enjoy it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are there other FCPS elementary schools participating in the Continental Math League competition? All of a sudden, our school is participating for 2nd grade. I’m wondering why. My older kids didn’t have this.


My kid is grade 4 and he participated in Beestar Online Math Competition in last October and he did well because that competition is goes by grade level so it is suitable for the kids in Elementary to participate in that competition. My son willing to join that competition in coming March.


Math Kangaroo and Beestar which one is the better one for the elementary kids to participate. Your honest answer would be highly appreciated. Thank you.


My son is doing so well with the Beestar, it only takes 20 mins a week and I could see that there is an improvement in his calculation skills and speed. It is completely free so it is worth to give a try. The teaching techniques are pretty familiar to the kids so not even worry about kids might get bored of it. Parents can also monitor on kids' progress. Anyway good luck and hope it helps u.

I would say Math Olympiad is better, as well as CML.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kids love math, but I just can't imagine making them do this. Especially not math kangaroo, which is my least favorite competition math program... I think this would spoil it for them. These contents may be somewhat helpful for older kids since the practice may help reinforce some concepts but memorizing a bunch of plug-and-chug problem types seems like a good way to turn math into drudgery.

https://www.matematica.pt/en/useful/kangaroo-questions.php
Where are the plug-and-chug problem types?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you want your kid doing it in school, you could offer to sponsor it for the whole grade. It is a little under $100 per grade, for 2-6.
This is things get started at our school. It takes dedicated adult volunteers.
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