St. Albans and working moms

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Anonymous wrote:I've never understand why both parents choose to work full time in soulless work when only one has to. Greed is the only explanation I can come up with.[/quot

Spoken like a true clueless stay at home parent. Some people actually have meaningful jobs and also get to help others. Ie it has nothing to do with greed. Thinking of and helping others, not just who won the CCC tennis tournament, is invaluable to shaping productive members of society. And lots have to work.


Read much? I said I've never understand why both parents choose to work full time in soulless work when only one has to. I didn't say "meaningful" jobs. I didn't say "have to." I said two soulless jobs when only one has to.

Yes, greed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well educated liberal moms are supposed to work until they die? I didn't know that.


If they want to practice what they preach...


AMEN.


Which is what exactly?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of St. Albans mom work? It seems like once women hit their mid-30's at all the area private schools. many choose to stay home. That's always surprising to me considering how many extremely well educated and liberal moms are at these schools.


Well your premise is in incorrect. St. Albans is not mostly liberal moms. It is mostly republicans in my two sons grades. The administration and Cathedral may be more liberal leaning but the current parents and boys are not. NCS, Sidwell, Holton, and GDS are where you will find more liberal moms.


If this is true, then it makes sense that they would be more likely to prescribe to more traditional gender roles than some other schools.


How silly. True feminism is when women have the CHOICE to work or not work and can choose what is best for them without feeling societal pressures one way or the other. Get with the times. I have done both and now choose not to work and I am liberal and educated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of St. Albans mom work? It seems like once women hit their mid-30's at all the area private schools. many choose to stay home. That's always surprising to me considering how many extremely well educated and liberal moms are at these schools.


Well your premise is in incorrect. St. Albans is not mostly liberal moms. It is mostly republicans in my two sons grades. The administration and Cathedral may be more liberal leaning but the current parents and boys are not. NCS, Sidwell, Holton, and GDS are where you will find more liberal moms.


This may be your experience, and I have no doubt you are relaying your experience, but it is not my experience nor my son's. We have found that there is a small, albeit vocal, minority of hard-core Republicans, and within that some Trump supporters as well as some never-Trumpers. These families often live in NoVA. Overall, however, here are far more moderate and liberal-leaning boys and families (often socially liberal but fiscally conservative). I would agree that there are few hard-core liberals at STA but the majority of families are liberal-leaning moderates. I also do agree there are more girls at NCS who are truly liberal.

If your son is in the upper school, suggest he join Gov Club. Gov Club is co-ed and gives the best snap-shot into the political disposition of the Close high school students as it requires the kids (so both STA and NCS here) declare their political affiliation. I can tell you that the liberal, Democrats camp is always much larger than the conservative group, and its not just NCS girls. There have even been instances when the "Republican/conservative group" has had to ask some "independents" (or kids who move back and forth based on issues) to stand with them to even out numbers for various exercises.

Too often people presume that the Cathedral schools have a majority of conservative families based only on appearances. This is not a good way to judge anyone's political affiliation. In Washington at least, preppy does not equal conservative.
Anonymous


How silly. True feminism is when women have the CHOICE to work or not work and can choose what is best for them without feeling societal pressures one way or the other. Get with the times. I have done both and now choose not to work and I am liberal and educated.


+1000. Feminism is about giving women the choice to do what they want with their lives. There's a significant difference between telling a woman she must stay at home versus pursue a career and allowing her to make the choice as she sees fit.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of St. Albans mom work? It seems like once women hit their mid-30's at all the area private schools. many choose to stay home. That's always surprising to me considering how many extremely well educated and liberal moms are at these schools.


Well your premise is in incorrect. St. Albans is not mostly liberal moms. It is mostly republicans in my two sons grades. The administration and Cathedral may be more liberal leaning but the current parents and boys are not. NCS, Sidwell, Holton, and GDS are where you will find more liberal moms.


This may be your experience, and I have no doubt you are relaying your experience, but it is not my experience nor my son's. We have found that there is a small, albeit vocal, minority of hard-core Republicans, and within that some Trump supporters as well as some never-Trumpers. These families often live in NoVA. Overall, however, here are far more moderate and liberal-leaning boys and families (often socially liberal but fiscally conservative). I would agree that there are few hard-core liberals at STA but the majority of families are liberal-leaning moderates. I also do agree there are more girls at NCS who are truly liberal.

If your son is in the upper school, suggest he join Gov Club. Gov Club is co-ed and gives the best snap-shot into the political disposition of the Close high school students as it requires the kids (so both STA and NCS here) declare their political affiliation. I can tell you that the liberal, Democrats camp is always much larger than the conservative group, and its not just NCS girls. There have even been instances when the "Republican/conservative group" has had to ask some "independents" (or kids who move back and forth based on issues) to stand with them to even out numbers for various exercises.

Too often people presume that the Cathedral schools have a majority of conservative families based only on appearances. This is not a good way to judge anyone's political affiliation. In Washington at least, preppy does not equal conservative.


I am a liberal, Democrat, full-time working mom with a son at STA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of St. Albans mom work? It seems like once women hit their mid-30's at all the area private schools. many choose to stay home. That's always surprising to me considering how many extremely well educated and liberal moms are at these schools.


Well your premise is in incorrect. St. Albans is not mostly liberal moms. It is mostly republicans in my two sons grades. The administration and Cathedral may be more liberal leaning but the current parents and boys are not. NCS, Sidwell, Holton, and GDS are where you will find more liberal moms.


This may be your experience, and I have no doubt you are relaying your experience, but it is not my experience nor my son's. We have found that there is a small, albeit vocal, minority of hard-core Republicans, and within that some Trump supporters as well as some never-Trumpers. These families often live in NoVA. Overall, however, here are far more moderate and liberal-leaning boys and families (often socially liberal but fiscally conservative). I would agree that there are few hard-core liberals at STA but the majority of families are liberal-leaning moderates. I also do agree there are more girls at NCS who are truly liberal.

If your son is in the upper school, suggest he join Gov Club. Gov Club is co-ed and gives the best snap-shot into the political disposition of the Close high school students as it requires the kids (so both STA and NCS here) declare their political affiliation. I can tell you that the liberal, Democrats camp is always much larger than the conservative group, and its not just NCS girls. There have even been instances when the "Republican/conservative group" has had to ask some "independents" (or kids who move back and forth based on issues) to stand with them to even out numbers for various exercises.

Too often people presume that the Cathedral schools have a majority of conservative families based only on appearances. This is not a good way to judge anyone's political affiliation. In Washington at least, preppy does not equal conservative.


I am a liberal, Democrat, full-time working mom with a son at STA.


I am too. But I know a lot of conservative Republicans there. And they're not "DC conservative" (i.e. moderates). Many are very conservative and full-on Trump-conservative.
It's my only intersection with Trump supporters in DC. I'm sure it varies by grade like everything else. I don't have a kid in upper (high) school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Well educated liberal moms are supposed to work until they die? I didn't know that.


If they want to practice what they preach...


I did practiced what I preach. I worked, made partner, had kids, stayed home with them, and now do pro bono to help others have the opportunities I have had.

Anonymous
No one should ever judge the choices made by others. Some women have fulfilling jobs that they enjoy. Others think they want to be there 24/7 for their kids when they are young. Neither is wrong. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn’t mean you are playing tennis at the club all day—mostly it means spending time with your kids, driving them around to enrichment classes, taking them to the park, wiping poopy butts, etc. Maybe that’s your thing and maybe it isn’t. Maybe you feel like a nanny could do that just as well, and maybe you don’t. To spread broad generalizations about laziness vs greed is just wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No one should ever judge the choices made by others. Some women have fulfilling jobs that they enjoy. Others think they want to be there 24/7 for their kids when they are young. Neither is wrong. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn’t mean you are playing tennis at the club all day—mostly it means spending time with your kids, driving them around to enrichment classes, taking them to the park, wiping poopy butts, etc. Maybe that’s your thing and maybe it isn’t. Maybe you feel like a nanny could do that just as well, and maybe you don’t. To spread broad generalizations about laziness vs greed is just wrong.


Maybe when the kids are young but a lot of stay home moms with means have full time help and don't spend that much time with their kids. Their full time job is in fact social climbing. And yes, feminism is having the choice to pursue ones life goals but there is some hypocrisy in liberal moms espousing equality in the work force when many have barely worked. In essence, they should walk the line. There is some condescension in the idea that a working mother is great for the working class but somewhat declasse and appalling for the liberal elite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one should ever judge the choices made by others. Some women have fulfilling jobs that they enjoy. Others think they want to be there 24/7 for their kids when they are young. Neither is wrong. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn’t mean you are playing tennis at the club all day—mostly it means spending time with your kids, driving them around to enrichment classes, taking them to the park, wiping poopy butts, etc. Maybe that’s your thing and maybe it isn’t. Maybe you feel like a nanny could do that just as well, and maybe you don’t. To spread broad generalizations about laziness vs greed is just wrong.


Maybe when the kids are young but a lot of stay home moms with means have full time help and don't spend that much time with their kids. Their full time job is in fact social climbing. And yes, feminism is having the choice to pursue ones life goals but there is some hypocrisy in liberal moms espousing equality in the work force when many have barely worked. In essence, they should walk the line. There is some condescension in the idea that a working mother is great for the working class but somewhat declasse and appalling for the liberal elite.


Who ever expressed that point of view?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one should ever judge the choices made by others. Some women have fulfilling jobs that they enjoy. Others think they want to be there 24/7 for their kids when they are young. Neither is wrong. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn’t mean you are playing tennis at the club all day—mostly it means spending time with your kids, driving them around to enrichment classes, taking them to the park, wiping poopy butts, etc. Maybe that’s your thing and maybe it isn’t. Maybe you feel like a nanny could do that just as well, and maybe you don’t. To spread broad generalizations about laziness vs greed is just wrong.


Maybe when the kids are young but a lot of stay home moms with means have full time help and don't spend that much time with their kids. Their full time job is in fact social climbing. And yes, feminism is having the choice to pursue ones life goals but there is some hypocrisy in liberal moms espousing equality in the work force when many have barely worked. In essence, they should walk the line. There is some condescension in the idea that a working mother is great for the working class but somewhat declasse and appalling for the liberal elite.


You must live in a bubble ot think "a lot" of women are in that position. I don't know one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one should ever judge the choices made by others. Some women have fulfilling jobs that they enjoy. Others think they want to be there 24/7 for their kids when they are young. Neither is wrong. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn’t mean you are playing tennis at the club all day—mostly it means spending time with your kids, driving them around to enrichment classes, taking them to the park, wiping poopy butts, etc. Maybe that’s your thing and maybe it isn’t. Maybe you feel like a nanny could do that just as well, and maybe you don’t. To spread broad generalizations about laziness vs greed is just wrong.


Maybe when the kids are young but a lot of stay home moms with means have full time help and don't spend that much time with their kids. Their full time job is in fact social climbing. And yes, feminism is having the choice to pursue ones life goals but there is some hypocrisy in liberal moms espousing equality in the work force when many have barely worked. In essence, they should walk the line. There is some condescension in the idea that a working mother is great for the working class but somewhat declasse and appalling for the liberal elite.


You must live in a bubble ot think "a lot" of women are in that position. I don't know one.


Yup the bubble of private schools. Thus, the private school forum.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What percentage of St. Albans mom work? It seems like once women hit their mid-30's at all the area private schools. many choose to stay home. That's always surprising to me considering how many extremely well educated and liberal moms are at these schools.


Well your premise is in incorrect. St. Albans is not mostly liberal moms. It is mostly republicans in my two sons grades. The administration and Cathedral may be more liberal leaning but the current parents and boys are not. NCS, Sidwell, Holton, and GDS are where you will find more liberal moms.


Agree with this as well. It is a very conservative student (family) body. NCS is different--much more liberal. STA is very, very republican, including Trump republican. It has been an eye opener to us.


I’m wondering which grades pp’s are referring to. I get about 65-70/30 vibe (70 Democrats) and about half of 30 Trump Republicans. Others more Reagan/Bush thank goodness.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one should ever judge the choices made by others. Some women have fulfilling jobs that they enjoy. Others think they want to be there 24/7 for their kids when they are young. Neither is wrong. Being a stay-at-home mom doesn’t mean you are playing tennis at the club all day—mostly it means spending time with your kids, driving them around to enrichment classes, taking them to the park, wiping poopy butts, etc. Maybe that’s your thing and maybe it isn’t. Maybe you feel like a nanny could do that just as well, and maybe you don’t. To spread broad generalizations about laziness vs greed is just wrong.


Maybe when the kids are young but a lot of stay home moms with means have full time help and don't spend that much time with their kids. Their full time job is in fact social climbing. And yes, feminism is having the choice to pursue ones life goals but there is some hypocrisy in liberal moms espousing equality in the work force when many have barely worked. In essence, they should walk the line. There is some condescension in the idea that a working mother is great for the working class but somewhat declasse and appalling for the liberal elite.


You must live in a bubble ot think "a lot" of women are in that position. I don't know one.


I only joined the private school world this year (previously kid was in public) but I've lived in upper NW since my kids were born (10 years) and it's the norm for SAHM to have close to full-time help if not 40+ hours a week. Plus preschool hours. It surprised me when I first had kids but almost everyone who stays at home in NW/Chevy Chase/close-in Bethesda has a sitter/nanny for close to full time hours or more. No one is driving their own kids around to everything
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