No they don't. |
DP: I disagree with you. I don't have a kid at any of those four schools, but I do know for a fact that our oldest could skip high school altogether and nail the SAT test. Your high school education has very little to do with your SAT score; not nothing, but very little. |
Oh Really? LOL. Congrats. |
This just shows that you do not really understand what the SAT and ACT measure. A better indicator of school quality would be student scores on comparable AP exams and SAT subject tests. But even that information would not be very useful, since you would need to know how each school determines eligibility for things like AP courses. If a school restricts entry into AP courses, their average scores are going to be higher than schools with more open policies. The population of students taking a test makes a big difference to the score distribution. That's why AP Human Geography has a much lower rate of 4s and 5s than AP Calculus BC. It's not because Calc BC is easier. It's because generally only very strong math students are taking Calc BC. Really, there's no way to compare schools on the basis of outcomes unless you know a whole lot about the students as they are entering high school. Otherwise there's no way to tell what difference the high school has made. Kids who score very high on high school entrance exams are likely to be high scorers on the SAT and ACT, and probably also AP exams. And kids whose parents have the money to pay for SAT and ACT tutors are going to score higher than similar kids whose parents do not have that money. |
Research will show that you are wrong. You sound very racist that you keep saying Damatha is only about football. Please stop representing yourself as a GZ family you are a complete embarrassment to our community. |
| DeMatha has changed over the last 10 years. All of my brothers went to DeMatha and the school they describe is no longer what it is. Not to say the academics are not strong but, the caliber of student they are willing to accept has changed. I personally know 3 boys who were all accepted last year that came from public school with a C average GPA. No extra-curricular activities other than sports. Low HSPT scores (40-50%). All three were accepted into DeMatha. No other school accepted them. |
I have to say once again that I disagree. When scores differ so significantly, it is a measure of the schools' level of instruction. If the majority of students score low on the ACT and SAT, then we can conclude that the the instruction in various classes would need to cater to that level of student. It doesn't make the instruction bad, it just means it might not be challenging enough for the a bright or gifted student. That is why Gonzaga is a "better" school for a more advanced student. With the regard to AP scores and SAT subject tests, you are correct that those scores would also be an indicator of quality of teaching. However, that data is not available to compare...unless I am missing something. |
Oh please. I said I don't know much about DeMatha beyond the football games--that was the extent of my comment. Hardly racist! |
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I have boys who went to both Gonzaga and DeMatha. Overall, there is a much broader range of ability at DeMatha. There are very smart boys and rigorous honors/AP level classes. There are also kids who are academically average or below average, and there are courses leveled for them also. DeMatha is definitely more racially and economically diverse.
Gonzaga also has honors and AP courses, but their on-level courses are more rigorous than the average on level course at Gonzaga. The homework load is intense. Both have great opportunities for smart kids. DeMatha has more for a kid who struggles academically. Both are very competitive in sports, DeMatha has an amazing music program, Gonzaga has a fabulous theater program. |
I think the PP was referring to the fact that GZ has been winning against DeMatha in the last couple of games, including the infamous WCAC championship last year....that was quite a game. |
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Only on page 4 but these post are terrible... SJC send students to top 15 colleges and majority to top 30. They are also a diverse school who's students are legacy at non-traditional schools (HBCUs). This is the same for DeMatha. SJC has invested a lot into their sports programs and there is no denying that. However, they have also invested a lot into technology and have a strong honors program and Benilde program. I doubt that the school's model is moving to IMG (whatever that is) because they value education and technology. When I was there, the founder of AOL, who was an alum, donated a computer lab. They have been building with strong alum for over a decade.
I am an alum |