How much do you pay for overnights?

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[Post New]09/22/2019 12:52
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Anonymous
We pay our nanny’s hourly rate plus overtime for all hours she is working (even if she’s sleeping as she can’t leave, isn’t in her own bed and is on call for the kids’ needs).

I don’t think it’s legal to do it any differently. I could be wrong but it’s what we’ve always done. Especially when traveling where the nanny shares a hotel room with the kids.
[Post New]10/23/2019 23:59
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We pay our usual hourly rate for all hours. Everyone I know does the same. I mean, if the babysitter can’t leave - she’s working.



This!
Everything else is 19 century.
[Post New]10/24/2019 00:10
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We pay our usual hourly rate for all hours. Everyone I know does the same. I mean, if the babysitter can’t leave - she’s working.



But from 8-4 the next day she isn't with the kids nor does she need to be in their house. She can do whatever she wants at her own house or locally with the exception of drugs, alcohol, or child care for someone else. She certainly should be compensated for being available, but i don't think it should be at the same rate as when the kids are with her or she has to be in their house such as overnight.


If she has to be on call in case of an emergency and therefore can’t watch someone’s kids - or work at all really during that time - then yes she needs to be compensated as usual. Otherwise it’s not fair to strip her of availability to other jobs and shortchange her while doing so.
[Post New]10/29/2019 15:17
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Anonymous
According to the IRS, you don’t have to pay a LIVE-IN caregiver for 8 hours overnight if 1. they can get at least 5 hours of consecutive sleep AND 2. they are working full days on both sides of the night. Your situation doesn’t tick the criteria: 1. not a live-in employee, 2. no guarantee of 5 hours of sleep (although possible), and 3. she’s only working part of the day before the overnight.

So, here’s your best scenario. Draw up a power of attorney, authorizing her to start emergency treatment in the case that you can’t be reached. Make sure she knows that she needs to be on call while kids are at daycare. Pay appropriately: $20 for working hours, $10 for on call hours. That means $20 4-10pm is $120, $10 10pm-6am is $60, $20 6-8am is $40, $10 8am-4pm is $80, $20 4pm-when you get home (for the purposes of this, we’ll say 9pm) is roughly $100. Total is $400 (more or less, depending on when you get home). If you can’t or won’t pay for over 24 hours of her time, then you should make arrangements for the kids to stay with relatives or take them with you. On the plus side, unless working hours with kids are 40 or more for the week, you won’t be liable for overtime.
[Post New]10/29/2019 15:19
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:According to the IRS, you don’t have to pay a LIVE-IN caregiver for 8 hours overnight if 1. they can get at least 5 hours of consecutive sleep AND 2. they are working full days on both sides of the night. Your situation doesn’t tick the criteria: 1. not a live-in employee, 2. no guarantee of 5 hours of sleep (although possible), and 3. she’s only working part of the day before the overnight.

So, here’s your best scenario. Draw up a power of attorney, authorizing her to start emergency treatment in the case that you can’t be reached. Make sure she knows that she needs to be on call while kids are at daycare. Pay appropriately: $20 for working hours, $10 for on call hours. That means $20 4-10pm is $120, $10 10pm-6am is $80, $20 6-8am is $40, $10 8am-4pm is $80, $20 4pm-when you get home (for the purposes of this, we’ll say 9pm) is roughly $100. Total is $420 (more or less, depending on when you get home). If you can’t or won’t pay for over 24 hours of her time, then you should make arrangements for the kids to stay with relatives or take them with you. On the plus side, unless working hours with kids are 40 or more for the week, you won’t be liable for overtime.
Oops, pardon my math!
[Post New]11/01/2019 16:00
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We pay our usual hourly rate for all hours. Everyone I know does the same. I mean, if the babysitter can’t leave - she’s working.



But from 8-4 the next day she isn't with the kids nor does she need to be in their house. She can do whatever she wants at her own house or locally with the exception of drugs, alcohol, or child care for someone else. She certainly should be compensated for being available, but i don't think it should be at the same rate as when the kids are with her or she has to be in their house such as overnight.


How would you feel if your boss told you that because the office was being deep cleaned or painted and you would not be needed and you would be paid but only half your normal rate. You would raise holy hell. You pay the full amount. If you can't afford to do so then stay home!
[Post New]11/01/2019 16:13
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We pay our usual hourly rate for all hours. Everyone I know does the same. I mean, if the babysitter can’t leave - she’s working.



But from 8-4 the next day she isn't with the kids nor does she need to be in their house. She can do whatever she wants at her own house or locally with the exception of drugs, alcohol, or child care for someone else. She certainly should be compensated for being available, but i don't think it should be at the same rate as when the kids are with her or she has to be in their house such as overnight.


If you are out of town, she is on call, unless there is someone else who is responsible if, say the kids have an emergency. There is such a thing as on call pay. Look, you are thinking like a person who hires a casual babysitter, but you are an employer. You need to learn the laws that apply to you.
[Post New]11/01/2019 17:06
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Anonymous
Talk about overkill.

We paid half time for the hours she was asleep. She jumped at the chance for the cash. My kids sleep great so it's easy money.
[Post New]11/04/2019 14:03
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We pay our usual hourly rate for all hours. Everyone I know does the same. I mean, if the babysitter can’t leave - she’s working.



But from 8-4 the next day she isn't with the kids nor does she need to be in their house. She can do whatever she wants at her own house or locally with the exception of drugs, alcohol, or child care for someone else. She certainly should be compensated for being available, but i don't think it should be at the same rate as when the kids are with her or she has to be in their house such as overnight.


If you can put restrictions on what she can do, then she is not free during these hours. She is on duty and you pay her her full hourly rate for this time!
[Post New]11/04/2019 14:11
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Anonymous
Here is a resource on the law regarding pay for sleeping time:

https://www.employmentlawhandbook.com/flsa/fai-labor-standards-act-when-sleeping-time-is-considered-hours-worked/

[Post New]12/11/2019 21:42
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prettylittlething
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I'm a nanny. I charge $100 8pm-6am fee. After that I charge my normal hourly rate. Nanny is on call and responsible for anything during these hours
[Post New]12/11/2019 23:17
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Anonymous
Pay her the regular wage ... a 1 and 3 year old may be up in the middle of the night.
[Post New]12/12/2019 06:25
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Anonymous
I have done this for people. I charge my hourly rate until 11pm at night and then again when the kids get up. I charge $75 flat rate for the overnight part.
I would not charge for the hours the kids are at daycare but I think a flat rate to be on call would be nice if you need to her to stay close to where they are and be available in an emergency.
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