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Anonymous
None of the schools my kid wants to attend are one that list. Has the grades/scores to go anywhere. |
Anonymous
I see FC Virgina was at the showcase last year, did they give up their ENCL and do VDA or are they in both? |
Anonymous
FCV gave up ECNL and switched to DA last year. In a new plot twist, VDA gave up its affiliation with DA this year to go to ECNL. No word yet on whether VDA will change its name to VECNL. |
Anonymous
| ........ and then Arlington gobbled up girls DA before any sub-5000 club could, saying adios to its short lived bromance with ECNL. |
Anonymous
Who gives AF besides you? |
Anonymous
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You folks are so pro-DA it is insane. Bethesda is probably one of the top clubs in the area and passed on the DA. There are other clubs who did the same. DA is a great option but is not the only option. Jefferson Cup has an impressive group of coaches visiting.
There are many reasons why a kid would pick ECNL over DA, DA over ECNL or independent over ECNL/DA. If your kid has the talent and work ethic, all of the above provide great opportunities. DA could end up as the best option for many kids but that does not mean that most of the next star is coming out of the program. If you live in MD, you are likely not doing DA (WS is a joke and a logistical nightmare) and I have yet to hear of a stud player leaving their team for the DA. I know of many who have left great independent teams for ECNL I still think it is too early to crown DA as the end-all-be-all but I do recognize that it has the potential to be one of the best options for girls who have zero interest in playing HS. |
Anonymous
not surprised by these #s. we are around all these parents interested in da but if you talk to them they really don't understand it or its pros and cons and just seem to be following the herd. no one even talks about possibly getting better by NOT doing da or loving the game more by postponing it until a girl even can understand stats like this or whether college soccer is even a positive to a girl who may be happy to skip the "admissions boost" everyone is in awe over. it's the draw of eliteness and the herd. the messaging from the clubs is all about eliteness. parents with a great kid can't dare stop the train and really think about life in a da. they do more due diligence when buying a new big screen then they spend understanding whether their kid "needs" da. do you think they objectively present the case for and against? no. they say we will support you and let you live the dream with your friends to make the YNTs. that's the garbage we hear, that is the level of depth they put to all this. feel bad that a certain percentage of these girls will just burn out and hate soccer, quit club, and maybe opt to just play in high school as a social/fun thing. da is great for a very few where the parents can clearly see it is in the eyes of the child and the child has that grit and determination but so, so, so many parents are deluding themselves when they also think they can see all that in their kid too. they don't see that their kid is statistically to be the loser in ussf's wide net - a net that does nothing for you and then the college dream is used as the next knee-jerk rationalization. and da is going to expand down to u12?? just really sad for those girls who don't have any soccer dreams yet but love soccer so their parents blindly sign them up on the path. yes, 10-11 years old girls doing da id sessions someday soon at a club near you! not anti-da but amazed by the conversations among parents who don't understand the pros and cons, or perhaps don't care, or perhaps just don't want to force themselves to think through what are huge lifestyle changes with da that won't all be positive. there will be compromises, but no one discusses that. |
Anonymous
If you are very intelligent it matters. You don’t have this problem in your family. |
Anonymous
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If you don't like DA or ECNL then don't tryout....but stop acting as if they are not the best option for college recruitment. You will never win that argument....no matter how many emotional paragraphs you write.
Your nothing more than a parent with an opinion...facts are facts and stats are stats....but the truth is irrelevant for most |
Anonymous
Then why are you on this forum? Your statement had nothing to do with soccer. It had to do with your child's intelligence. |
Anonymous
What's in your coffee. --- u sound a little crazy, non-sequiturs and all |
Anonymous
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Any recent reports on the GDA breaking out the 16/17s into separate age groups?
Does the GDA more or less have a good mix of u16s and u17s in the combined age group? From what people have heard/seen, is the GDA keeping a good ratio of incoming u16s next year for continuity and development? |
Anonymous
That's a very good point, and one that seems mostly overlooked in this thread. For players who do have the ability to play at the ECNL/DA level, these are the things that make it a better option for their development. It's not just about getting noticed (although yes, that matters), and it's more than just a weeding out process. It is about becoming a better player. Speed of play definitely matters, and there is no substitute for facing that type of pressure every day in training. Over time gaps will open up. |
Anonymous
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Riddle me this
How in the world can Loudoun field ECNL teams? |
Blutarski
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I think Loudoun's top girls are mostly still there probably. FCV did not peel off more than a handful of girls at U14/15. They will also draw some of the second tier girls from FCV, and maybe one or two GDA girls from the bottom of the roster. |