Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss Part II

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Please don't think I was trying to say it's the players' fault. They take their cues from their coach, and play according to the coach's plan. I just personally think that because this is YOUTH SOCCER and we are attempting to develop these kids so they can hopefully be the next generation of players, we also need to realize that these kids will play on other teams and for other coaches down the line. Therefore, a coach should try to play the most proactive style possible, as they don't really learn much nor do they become better players by playing long-ball tactics 90% of the time. Any dad with limited to no experience of the game could make a team play like that, so I just don't see the allure in putting your kid on a team that has that particular philosophy. Soccer is a beautiful game and what your kids love the most, they should try to win every game by trying to play WELL, not by playing anti-soccer and clamping down at the back with 9 defenders like the Alamo. Catenaccio stopped being an effective tactic 40 years ago, just my 2 cents.
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Anonymous wrote:Take your player to a local soccer field when he doesn't have practice and let him play pickup with the Hispanic kids that can't afford a team but feel their soccer and are crazy about it. Your player will improve by leaps and bounds on a technical level, might learn some tricks and footwork that he would never learn from a coach, and he will make some soccer friends that are for life. You won't regret it and your player will have a blast getting an occasional reprieve from the shackles of organized soccer.


Anyone care to PM me about where and when some of those pick-up games are played in Northern VA or DC ? I won't repost. I've asked this question several times, and answer still remains elusive since nobody wants to ruin a good thing. I'd like to get my elementary aged travel boys roughed up playing in some pick up games.


Arlington just listed its drop in soccer schedule for the upcoming weeks: http://www.arlingtonsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/DropInFall17edit.pdf


I just checked out the flyer, and I can't help but laugh. First of all, who gets up early in the morning and is ready for pick-up anything. And having the ASA staff choose teams is the worst you can do, wear shin guards??, please don't come on this forum and say the kids didn't enjoy the spontaneously-scheduled organized-fun they were supposed to be having.



It's a good program, no others in the area like it, so no reason to knock it.


Actually ASA summer program is run a whole lot better, this program seems to want manufacture fun. As for other clubs, I know NVSC has a 'street soccer' program but sometimes the coaches try to get too involved it feels like another practice session. FPYC has a similar program, though not sure if it's still going. This program sounds to me like a fun activity for the adults as they get together on days they're off and have the kids play something while the parents catch-up. The informal soccer that was being talked about earlier was for players to actually play soccer and pick-up a few things they wouldn't otherwise see at their practices. It depends on what you're rating the program on to say it's "a good program, no others in the area like it".


Was he saying that because it's open to non-ASA members? Vienna has restarted its Friday night free play, but it's only for players already registered in House or travel.


I think it is exactly like the summer program. The coaches set up small sided fields, pass out pinnies, and break up the major disputes between kids - but otherwise the coaches just watch and will chase the balls when they get kicked out. It is nothing like a practice, and this is where kids make the rules about having goalies, what the penalties are, etc.. Kids will practice what they've learned, and get challenged by much better players, depending on what field you end up on. Half the parents are out doing their own exercise, and maybe a handful know each other -but isn't all that social for the parents.
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NoVaRTP wrote:
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NoVaRTP wrote:
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NoVaRTP wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take your player to a local soccer field when he doesn't have practice and let him play pickup with the Hispanic kids that can't afford a team but feel their soccer and are crazy about it. Your player will improve by leaps and bounds on a technical level, might learn some tricks and footwork that he would never learn from a coach, and he will make some soccer friends that are for life. You won't regret it and your player will have a blast getting an occasional reprieve from the shackles of organized soccer.


Anyone care to PM me about where and when some of those pick-up games are played in Northern VA or DC ? I won't repost. I've asked this question several times, and answer still remains elusive since nobody wants to ruin a good thing. I'd like to get my elementary aged travel boys roughed up playing in some pick up games.


Arlington just listed its drop in soccer schedule for the upcoming weeks: http://www.arlingtonsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/DropInFall17edit.pdf


I just checked out the flyer, and I can't help but laugh. First of all, who gets up early in the morning and is ready for pick-up anything. And having the ASA staff choose teams is the worst you can do, wear shin guards??, please don't come on this forum and say the kids didn't enjoy the spontaneously-scheduled organized-fun they were supposed to be having.



It's a good program, no others in the area like it, so no reason to knock it.


Actually ASA summer program is run a whole lot better, this program seems to want manufacture fun. As for other clubs, I know NVSC has a 'street soccer' program but sometimes the coaches try to get too involved it feels like another practice session. FPYC has a similar program, though not sure if it's still going. This program sounds to me like a fun activity for the adults as they get together on days they're off and have the kids play something while the parents catch-up. The informal soccer that was being talked about earlier was for players to actually play soccer and pick-up a few things they wouldn't otherwise see at their practices. It depends on what you're rating the program on to say it's "a good program, no others in the area like it".


Was he saying that because it's open to non-ASA members? Vienna has restarted its Friday night free play, but it's only for players already registered in House or travel.


I think it is exactly like the summer program. The coaches set up small sided fields, pass out pinnies, and break up the major disputes between kids - but otherwise the coaches just watch and will chase the balls when they get kicked out. It is nothing like a practice, and this is where kids make the rules about having goalies, what the penalties are, etc.. Kids will practice what they've learned, and get challenged by much better players, depending on what field you end up on. Half the parents are out doing their own exercise, and maybe a handful know each other -but isn't all that social for the parents.


Why do coaches need to go get the balls. Are they kicking the balls out of the complex onto the street? SMH.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of clubs have field space set aside for pickup soccer once or twice a week. If your player is high school aged, Draper Park in Fairfax usually has some great pickup games in the evenings, you'll see some real talented players there all the time.
FPYC allocates a full turf field at Draper in the summer and winter twice a week usually Fridays 5:30-7:30 and Sundays 2-4pm. During the seasons (spring and fall), they provide a grass field every Sunday 2-4pm. Very few people have been turning up the past few seasons. Not sure why. Someone even invited everyone on this message board there over the summer on Friday nights and still no one showed. I see that Vienna provides Jones Branch for pick up on Friday nights, but you have to be a member of the club...exclusive pick up! : )


Scheduling pick-up games is kind of like trying to conjure innovation and creativity out-of-nothing. Not sure about you all, but I played a lot of pick-up basketball as a child/teenager, and somedays the court would be me and this other guy, and other days we'd be running 4v4 games with several people waiting to come on. I would say find a place to go to play with your son/daughter and see who shows up. By the way I'm Latino, college-educated, wife and three kids, and find the type of stereotypical comments on this board about pick-up soccer amongst Latinos means your kid will get "roughed up" to be completely ignorant bordering on prejudicial, untrue and have to believe the people posting are misinformed. This is where other whites get the idea that Latino men will violate their women because they are blinded by their rage and are naturally sexually deviant.


Dirtiest play we've seen this year is by entitled white kids on PAC and McLean.


PAC? Really? What age group? Most of their teams are waaaaay too timid. We're talking "flinching when someone five yards away gently passes the ball to someone else" timid.


Yeah, I'll tell you even though it may out me because I feel like people are too secretive about this stuff. PAC 05 Navy Boys. The coach was abusive, and encouraged bad fouls, and seemed to have rubbed off on the boys. One player was ejected and the coach nearly was.


Ah -- OK. I thought someone said "preteen" earlier, so I was thinking U12 and below, in which I would've been totally shocked. I don't know the U13s as well. Was it a tall coach or a medium-height coach?


U13 players are 11 and 12. I don't recall the height of the coach. He was provoked apparently by the play of his own team, not ours. We are not Calverton (though Calverton has zero cautions to PAC's 2).
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I'll tell you even though it may out me because I feel like people are too secretive about this stuff. PAC 05 Navy Boys. The coach was abusive, and encouraged bad fouls, and seemed to have rubbed off on the boys. One player was ejected and the coach nearly was.


Ah -- OK. I thought someone said "preteen" earlier, so I was thinking U12 and below, in which I would've been totally shocked. I don't know the U13s as well. Was it a tall coach or a medium-height coach?


U13 players are 11 and 12. I don't recall the height of the coach. He was provoked apparently by the play of his own team, not ours. We are not Calverton (though Calverton has zero cautions to PAC's 2).


You're right -- my mind just tends to go to U12 when I think "preteen."

Calverton had throttled them 16 hours earlier, though it looks like Calverton is throttling everyone in that division. No wonder they haven't received any cards -- NCSL refs rarely ever card players, and the coach is probably just chilling the whole time while his team dominates.
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I'll tell you even though it may out me because I feel like people are too secretive about this stuff. PAC 05 Navy Boys. The coach was abusive, and encouraged bad fouls, and seemed to have rubbed off on the boys. One player was ejected and the coach nearly was.


Ah -- OK. I thought someone said "preteen" earlier, so I was thinking U12 and below, in which I would've been totally shocked. I don't know the U13s as well. Was it a tall coach or a medium-height coach?


U13 players are 11 and 12. I don't recall the height of the coach. He was provoked apparently by the play of his own team, not ours. We are not Calverton (though Calverton has zero cautions to PAC's 2).


You're right -- my mind just tends to go to U12 when I think "preteen."

Calverton had throttled them 16 hours earlier, though it looks like Calverton is throttling everyone in that division. No wonder they haven't received any cards -- NCSL refs rarely ever card players, and the coach is probably just chilling the whole time while his team dominates.


We played them before they lost to Calverton. We haven't played Calverton yet, so I'll let you know. They certainly seem to be the class of the division.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of clubs have field space set aside for pickup soccer once or twice a week. If your player is high school aged, Draper Park in Fairfax usually has some great pickup games in the evenings, you'll see some real talented players there all the time.
FPYC allocates a full turf field at Draper in the summer and winter twice a week usually Fridays 5:30-7:30 and Sundays 2-4pm. During the seasons (spring and fall), they provide a grass field every Sunday 2-4pm. Very few people have been turning up the past few seasons. Not sure why. Someone even invited everyone on this message board there over the summer on Friday nights and still no one showed. I see that Vienna provides Jones Branch for pick up on Friday nights, but you have to be a member of the club...exclusive pick up! : )


Scheduling pick-up games is kind of like trying to conjure innovation and creativity out-of-nothing. Not sure about you all, but I played a lot of pick-up basketball as a child/teenager, and somedays the court would be me and this other guy, and other days we'd be running 4v4 games with several people waiting to come on. I would say find a place to go to play with your son/daughter and see who shows up. By the way I'm Latino, college-educated, wife and three kids, and find the type of stereotypical comments on this board about pick-up soccer amongst Latinos means your kid will get "roughed up" to be completely ignorant bordering on prejudicial, untrue and have to believe the people posting are misinformed. This is where other whites get the idea that Latino men will violate their women because they are blinded by their rage and are naturally sexually deviant.


Dirtiest play we've seen this year is by entitled white kids on PAC and McLean.


PAC? Really? What age group? Most of their teams are waaaaay too timid. We're talking "flinching when someone five yards away gently passes the ball to someone else" timid.


Yeah, I'll tell you even though it may out me because I feel like people are too secretive about this stuff. PAC 05 Navy Boys. The coach was abusive, and encouraged bad fouls, and seemed to have rubbed off on the boys. One player was ejected and the coach nearly was.


Ah -- OK. I thought someone said "preteen" earlier, so I was thinking U12 and below, in which I would've been totally shocked. I don't know the U13s as well. Was it a tall coach or a medium-height coach?


U13 players are 11 and 12. I don't recall the height of the coach. He was provoked apparently by the play of his own team, not ours. We are not Calverton (though Calverton has zero cautions to PAC's 2).


Actually PAC has 2 yellows and 1 Red. Not sure if the red is via the two yellows but...
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The red card in our game was a straight red. Not sure about any other cards.
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Anyone going to the Battlefield Tournament this weekend?
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Nope, our VISTA team is going to VA Beach.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone going to the Battlefield Tournament this weekend?


PAC teams usually go, but I think most of us are going to (blech) Columbia this weekend. No idea why.
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To make the "possession vs. kick-and-run" debate a bit more concrete, do you have examples of fine youth teams in the area that use effectively the possession approach?
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Anonymous wrote:To make the "possession vs. kick-and-run" debate a bit more concrete, do you have examples of fine youth teams in the area that use effectively the possession approach?

Alexandria
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Anonymous wrote:To make the "possession vs. kick-and-run" debate a bit more concrete, do you have examples of fine youth teams in the area that use effectively the possession approach?

Alexandria


Arlington
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Anonymous wrote:To make the "possession vs. kick-and-run" debate a bit more concrete, do you have examples of fine youth teams in the area that use effectively the possession approach?

Alexandria


Arlington


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