Neighbor in my yard: wwyd?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they use your yard without your permission and your dog bites them, it is their liability.


Why does the OP have a vicious unpredictable dog in the first place? Being a parent, and having kids with friends, I'd never keep such an insane dog.


I agree. Dog owners like this are complete idiots.




Even the most gentle, calm dog will protect his/her domain from a stranger. The house/yard is the dog's territory. You are a stranger violating his/her territory. The dog will act. That doesn't make the dog vicious or unpredictable; it makes the dog a dog.

You're too polite, OP. I wouldn't want my neighbors using my yard either while I was home or wasn't home. That's just weird.
It's also teaching the kid not to respect boundaries. When my DD was younger and saw a swing set, she automatically equated that as a park. We had to teach her that no, not all play equipment is park equipment. One of my favorite memories is of her seeing a very cool playground set up at a daycare and asking, "is that a public park or a private park?" And after explaining it was private, her replying with "that makes me sad. Can we just stand here for a moment so I can close my eyes and pretend I'm playing on it in my head?" It became a joke in our family... "just close your eyes and pretend in your head."


+100000


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Gee- I wouldn't think anything of it, I'd be happy to see the swing set get some extra use. Our old neighbors used to come over regularly and use ours.


They opened your gate, entered your back yard and played on your swing set?



+1

No kidding. Who are these entitled losers?

Anonymous
^^^ that is absolutely precious! Your daughter seems very sweet and smart .
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Do you have a fence? F not, then get one. ASAP. Very weird behavior.


+1
My parents are best friends with their next door neighbors of 45 years, and they'd still never dream of going uninvited into their yard to just hang out. WTH?


+1
Anonymous
When I was a child, decades ago, our neighbors had a swing set and no fence. I would have *never* went over there and played by myself without permission. That is just a no, and it doesn't matter how old you are, you should know that.
doodlebug
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I'd be on the fence with this one. On one hand, if I liked the neighbor and wanted to foster good relations (you can't put a price tag on that) I'd want them to feel comfortable using my swing *occasionally* when the granddaughter was over. I wouldn't want to set a precedent that anytime time was OK though.

On the other hand, it would bug me to know end to know that someone I didn't really even know or have a neighborly relationship with (assuming that's the case) just waltzed over and went into my back yard.

I probably would have paused and said "I'm not really comfortable with that as it stresses the dog out for the rest of the day and oh, did you know there's a playground two doors down? That one is much better maintained than ours and there's benches where all the adults can hang out and talk. Good to see you, your granddaughter sure is getting big!"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^^ that is absolutely precious! Your daughter seems very sweet and smart .


+1

Smarter than some adults!
Anonymous
OP here. We went over and spoke w/the neighbors yesterday, explaining that we thought about it overnight and weren't comfortable with people being in our yard without our being there, with the dog and liability and such. They seemed understanding/remorseful but the grandfather mentioned again "I didn't think you were home" which makes us think that this has happened before when we really just weren't home to witness.

So we also got a lock for the gate, just in case. Better to be safe than sorry.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:0P, people like you make me crazy. See what you mean and mean what you say. Then you won't get into problems like this.


No, you're blaming the wrong person. She sounds like she is reflexively polite. A lot of us were raised to be that way. Sometimes we regret it later but it's still better than walking around without any polite reflexes. OP was caught off guard. The problem was created by the trespasser. I can't stand it when people try to run over other people and then put the blame on them for not saying no more forcefully. No, you shouldn't have tried to take advantage of them to begin with.


+1

PP should behave more like an adult and stop going around trying to push boundaries (like a petulant child would). You can call OP whatever you want, but OP still has more brains than the PP's who think it's acceptable, in any realm, to treat neighbors this way. You are not in the backwoods anymore, so act like it.
Anonymous
Question for those who think that a neighbor letting themselves into your backyard is ok... Would you be ok w/it if you came home to a neighbor who had let themselves into your house? How is a fenced in yard different than a house? Both are private property...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. We went over and spoke w/the neighbors yesterday, explaining that we thought about it overnight and weren't comfortable with people being in our yard without our being there, with the dog and liability and such. They seemed understanding/remorseful but the grandfather mentioned again "I didn't think you were home" which makes us think that this has happened before when we really just weren't home to witness.

So we also got a lock for the gate, just in case. Better to be safe than sorry.


You have probably burned bridges with them, but you had no choice. In the future, though, NEVER mention liability to people. It puts ideas in people's heads.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they use your yard without your permission and your dog bites them, it is their liability.


Actually, I think the owner is liable. My brother lives in NYC. In his neighborhood a young man broke into a row home. Somehow went up to their roof and somehow fell off. Paralyzed for life. Guess who he sued and guess who was liable. The homeowner was. Even though this guy broke in and they weren't even home at the time. It's stunning but it happens. I would love to have an open door policy in my home regarding neighborhood kids. But stories like these make it impossible to allow that.


Case cite, please.


You realize that the vast majority of cases do NOT get cited, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they use your yard without your permission and your dog bites them, it is their liability.


Actually, I think the owner is liable. My brother lives in NYC. In his neighborhood a young man broke into a row home. Somehow went up to their roof and somehow fell off. Paralyzed for life. Guess who he sued and guess who was liable. The homeowner was. Even though this guy broke in and they weren't even home at the time. It's stunning but it happens. I would love to have an open door policy in my home regarding neighborhood kids. But stories like these make it impossible to allow that.


Case cite, please.


You realize that the vast majority of cases do NOT get cited, right?


Or in this case, if it even went to court. Anyway, if I were the homeowner I would have found myself a better lawyer. The homeowner should not be held liable for an unexpected intruder.
Anonymous
MYOB.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MYOB.


Who? OP or the neighbor?
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