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Muslima wrote:The oppressed Niqabi

Sorry, I couldn't view the video.

From the Independent article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/lets-face-it--the-niqab-is-ridiculous-and-the-ideology-behind-it-weird-8831691.html

The niqab is a ridiculous garment, adopted by a small (but growing) number of women and rejected by many mainstream Muslims. When I see someone wearing it, I'm torn between laughing at the absurdity and irritation with the ideology it represents. In secular countries, the notion that women have to cover their faces whenever they leave the house is rightly seen as weird, and runs counter to the principle of gender equality. Many brave women in the Middle East and Asia have died for the much more important right not to cover their faces, and I have little patience with women in this country who make a mockery of that struggle by trying to pretend they're the ones suffering oppression.

She's not required to have patience with anything. This is just her opinion. Everybody's got one.

When I see someone wearing shortie shorts, an exposed butt crack or too much cleavage, I am torn between laughing at the absurdity and irritation with the ideology it represents.

Are you equally as disturbed when men walk around with no shirts or wear Speedos at the beach or expose their underwear b/c it's the "cool" thing to do?

Although you may find a miniskirt offensive, at least there's the choice to dress freely - which is offered to both men and women.

Muslim men, however, can walk around freely w/o having to cover their heads. Now, I'll give Muslims props for at least forcing men to cover their chests in front of non-mahram women.

But good Lord - These rules for women are never-ending!

Covering of Women
http://www.al-islam.org/code-ethics-muslim-men-and-women-sayyid-masud-masumi/rules-related-covering

A Woman must cover her entire body, with the exception of her face and hands from non-Mahram men; and in the event that there is any zinat on her face or hands, such as a ring or if she has shaped her eyebrows, or she has applied Surma to her eyes, even if these things are common among old women, it is not wajib to cover them. In other than these scenarios, a woman must cover her zinat from non-Mahram men. However, according to Ihtiyat Mustahab, a woman should cover her face and hands from a non-Mahram, even if there is no zinat on them

I ask, again -what's it to you how adult, consenting members of a particular community decide to dress? No one is asking you to live by these rules.

Anonymous wrote:And they sort of are asking others to live by these rules. Look at the uproar over stupid Selena Gomez showing her ankle in a mosque. The appropriate response to that behavior is an eye roll followed by shaking your head and saying, "Stupid American pop tart!" Nothing more.

Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

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damn right
b/c that's only b/c I was lucky enough to be born into a culture that gives freedom to women

Again, some may think Daisy Duke shorts are for "whores." fine
But there are men who run in fairly skimpy shorts, too, and who walk around with no shirts (both flabby and toned)

But we have choices.

The quran doesn't offer choices now, does it? And even if it's been misinterpreted to some extent, it's been used purposely to subjugate women.

bunch of bull written by MEN

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

According to Ihtiyat Wajib, women must also cover their face and hands from non-Mahram men.

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Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

These aren't lies.

We are a product of our environment. And you're a perfect example of that.

My children are being raised in an atheist household. However, I will indeed encourage them to take a comparative religions class in HS (if offered) and college. I was raised Catholic. So I know the bible. We talk about religion.

And b/c we TALK, my daughter is not being brainwashed into believing that she must walk around covering - and that goes for Amish and sects of Judaism and Islam. can't excite a man! God forbid I should have hormones and a vagina!

You're in such denial that it's simply pathetic.

It's so easy to turn to the quran to find an answer - much easier than finding it in yourself, eh?

Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

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Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

I am interested in knowing where, in this world, women are FORCED to wear a miniskirt or a bikini?????

Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

These aren't lies.

We are a product of our environment. And you're a perfect example of that.

My children are being raised in an atheist household. However, I will indeed encourage them to take a comparative religions class in HS (if offered) and college. I was raised Catholic. So I know the bible. We talk about religion.

And b/c we TALK, my daughter is not being brainwashed into believing that she must walk around covering - and that goes for Amish and sects of Judaism and Islam. can't excite a man! God forbid I should have hormones and a vagina!

You're in such denial that it's simply pathetic.

It's so easy to turn to the quran to find an answer - much easier than finding it in yourself, eh?

No, she is just being brainwashed into whatever sick theories are part of your moral rationale.

Muslima wrote:

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Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

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Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:I am sure the niqbis of the world are biting their nails over your opinion on how they choose to dress....

Again that word "choose," because you can't imagine that some wearers don't have a choice. Actually, the ones who are forced to wear it probably appreciate that somebody, although not you, is concerned on their behalf.

Stop your lies, just because you are too narrow-minded to imagine that millions of women actually CHOOSE to wear a niqab doesn't mean the rest of the world uses your thought process. I have stated many times, that SOME women are forced to dress a certain way EVERYWHERE in the world be it a Niqab, a Hijab, a Miniskirt, or a Bikini. Get a grip and stop thinking the world revolves around what is normalized in your head.

You need to get a grip.

You write that the niqab-wearing women *choose* to dress that way (I bolded it for you). You didn't add any qualification that not *all* the "niqbis of the world" are biting their nails. Then you go beserk when somebody adds the qualification that you yourself neglected to add to your original post.