Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they WANT to wear it (except maybe Iran). Read their posts online. The hijab is the least of a Saudi woman's concern. They wear it because they believe they should. Not because they are told to.

Do you honestly believe OP that all the Muslim women in America wear the hijab for their husbands? It isn't so. I'm Christian but I am surrounded by Muslim women everyday. One day, ask one if they like to wear it.

Exactly. Like one sheikh said, I invite every person, I invite every woman here, every non-Muslim woman who thinks Muslim Women are wearing the scarf because their husbands told them or someone forced them to wear it , to stop the next muslim woman you meet on the street, you know that one in Tysons, and ask her. I mean, let's not ask Barbara Walters about how Muslim women feel, let's not ask CNN, ABC, FOX, let's not ask the London Times or the NYTimes, let's not ask Non-Muslims about how Muslim women feel, how they live, what are their principles , what are their challenges. If you want to be fair, ask a Muslim woman, ask a Muslim woman that knows her religion, who has a relationship with her creator, ask her. But the problem is no one really wants to ask Muslim women, we want to take pictures of women in Afghanistan, and pictures of women in Iran, and pictures of women in Pakistan, and add our own bias to it. Where you find women oppressed, women exploited ,women mistreated, among Muslims that's because those Muslims themselves are not representing the principles of the religion, and in every religion you have the black sheep, the fundamentalists and the right wings.

So as I understand, in the US women are wearing because they want to, to express faith in their religion. I can accept that.

In other Muslim (vs Islamic) countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and countless more, women are wearing because they are oppressed. So I am assuming they are being forced to wear it and they have no other option. And this is all man made and not dictated by religion. Islam says women are free to wear or not wear, and the religion imposes no punishment or stigmatization for not wearing the hijab?

And then these Muslim(vs Islamic) countries that force oppression on women are all under Western influence?

Anonymous wrote:IMO, there is a HUGE difference between wearing Hijab/headscarf/modest clothes and completely OBLITERATING your identity by wearing Ni'qab/facial veil.

I'm totally cool with hijab and modest dress. Not cool with veiling your face.

There is such a wide range of how women wear hijab. For examply, during my evening walk I saw:

1. a young muslim woman in a headscarf, but wearing a form fitting spandex tank dress. She had an incredible body and I couldn't help but think, what is the purpose of covering your hair and neck if you are going to wear something like that? Her friend was also wearing a head scarf, but had on skin tight stretch jeans and a skin tight shirt that left nothing to the imagination.

2. a woman wearing modest pants, a tunic, and a headscarf.

3. a group of (I'm assuming) tourists. The women were all wearing full facial veil and even gloves, while the men were wearing regular tanks/tees and shorts. They were taking pictures - but what is the point of taking a photo of yourself if you can't even see your face to know that it is you in the photo later?

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they WANT to wear it (except maybe Iran). Read their posts online. The hijab is the least of a Saudi woman's concern. They wear it because they believe they should. Not because they are told to.

Do you honestly believe OP that all the Muslim women in America wear the hijab for their husbands? It isn't so. I'm Christian but I am surrounded by Muslim women everyday. One day, ask one if they like to wear it.

Exactly. Like one sheikh said, I invite every person, I invite every woman here, every non-Muslim woman who thinks Muslim Women are wearing the scarf because their husbands told them or someone forced them to wear it , to stop the next muslim woman you meet on the street, you know that one in Tysons, and ask her. I mean, let's not ask Barbara Walters about how Muslim women feel, let's not ask CNN, ABC, FOX, let's not ask the London Times or the NYTimes, let's not ask Non-Muslims about how Muslim women feel, how they live, what are their principles , what are their challenges. If you want to be fair, ask a Muslim woman, ask a Muslim woman that knows her religion, who has a relationship with her creator, ask her. But the problem is no one really wants to ask Muslim women, we want to take pictures of women in Afghanistan, and pictures of women in Iran, and pictures of women in Pakistan, and add our own bias to it. Where you find women oppressed, women exploited ,women mistreated, among Muslims that's because those Muslims themselves are not representing the principles of the religion, and in every religion you have the black sheep, the fundamentalists and the right wings.

So as I understand, in the US women are wearing because they want to, to express faith in their religion. I can accept that.

In other Muslim (vs Islamic) countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and countless more, women are wearing because they are oppressed. So I am assuming they are being forced to wear it and they have no other option. And this is all man made and not dictated by religion. Islam says women are free to wear or not wear, and the religion imposes no punishment or stigmatization for not wearing the hijab?

And then these Muslim(vs Islamic) countries that force oppression on women are all under Western influence?

No, not quite. The hijab is actually banned in Turkey, and Tunisia which are muslim majority countries, which I think is as oppressive as forcing people to wear it. Funny enough, the hijab used to be banned in Iran as well , they used to forcibly remove it from women but now it is mandatory there by law. This shows you how is only about politics and fundamentalism in those areas. Iran is the only country that I know that legally requires women to cover. Even in Saudi Arabia, you don't have to wear a hijab if you don't want to, but they expect you in Saudi Arabia to dress modestly.

Yes, there is no punishment in the religion for not wearing the hijab. There isn't a law in the Quran that says if a woman doesnt wear the hijab, beat her up, or put her in jail. The Quran emphasizes modesty for BOTH genders.

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, there is a HUGE difference between wearing Hijab/headscarf/modest clothes and completely OBLITERATING your identity by wearing Ni'qab/facial veil.

I'm totally cool with hijab and modest dress. Not cool with veiling your face.

There is such a wide range of how women wear hijab. For examply, during my evening walk I saw:

1. a young muslim woman in a headscarf, but wearing a form fitting spandex tank dress. She had an incredible body and I couldn't help but think, what is the purpose of covering your hair and neck if you are going to wear something like that? Her friend was also wearing a head scarf, but had on skin tight stretch jeans and a skin tight shirt that left nothing to the imagination.

2. a woman wearing modest pants, a tunic, and a headscarf.

3. a group of (I'm assuming) tourists. The women were all wearing full facial veil and even gloves, while the men were wearing regular tanks/tees and shorts. They were taking pictures - but what is the point of taking a photo of yourself if you can't even see your face to know that it is you in the photo later?

You would still recognize yourself on a picture even if it was covered, right? Allow them that choice ....

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMO, there is a HUGE difference between wearing Hijab/headscarf/modest clothes and completely OBLITERATING your identity by wearing Ni'qab/facial veil.

I'm totally cool with hijab and modest dress. Not cool with veiling your face.

There is such a wide range of how women wear hijab. For examply, during my evening walk I saw:

1. a young muslim woman in a headscarf, but wearing a form fitting spandex tank dress. She had an incredible body and I couldn't help but think, what is the purpose of covering your hair and neck if you are going to wear something like that? Her friend was also wearing a head scarf, but had on skin tight stretch jeans and a skin tight shirt that left nothing to the imagination.

2. a woman wearing modest pants, a tunic, and a headscarf.

3. a group of (I'm assuming) tourists. The women were all wearing full facial veil and even gloves, while the men were wearing regular tanks/tees and shorts. They were taking pictures - but what is the point of taking a photo of yourself if you can't even see your face to know that it is you in the photo later?

You would still recognize yourself on a picture even if it was covered, right? Allow them that choice ....

uh no

A veiled face is a veiled face. I certainly wouldn't recognize myself in a niqab.

Muslima wrote:Well, a lot of women want to go to college. The fact that they have to take their hijab off to go to college or keep the hijab on and not get educated, and the fact that many women in the public sector lost their jobs because they refused to take their hijabs off is an infringement on women’s right to choose to dress the way they wish and also worship the way they choose too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Muslima, I do not know who you are, where you are from, whether you are male or female.

All I am saying is this. I will NEVER wear these OUTFITS no matter whom I marry. Quite frankly, I wouldn't marry anyone who "required" me to dress like that.

Bless you all.

Then stay away from extremist views.

Orthodox and Hasidic Jews are in that category. But I highly doubt they'd welcome you into the family - even if you converted. lol

Muslima wrote: As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Muslima, I do not know who you are, where you are from, whether you are male or female.

All I am saying is this. I will NEVER wear these OUTFITS no matter whom I marry. Quite frankly, I wouldn't marry anyone who "required" me to dress like that.

Bless you all.

Then stay away from extremist views.

Orthodox and Hasidic Jews are in that category. But I highly doubt they'd welcome you into the family - even if you converted. lol

Amish, too. God, I feel so bad for them at the zoo during the height of summer.

Muslima wrote:Get a grip, I'm not dancing around any subject. I have answered every question asked truthfully, sorry it is not to your satisfaction. Iam against abortion because it is against my religious beliefs. That's a law legislated by the God I believe in. Unless it is for a medical reason, abortion is forbidden in Islam. But muslims still do it, that's where the freedom of choice comes in. Allah is the only Judge so on this life, you are free to do whatever you want, you won't answer to me or any other human being, you have to answer to Him and Him only, so do as you please. As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

Anonymous wrote:

Muslima wrote:Get a grip, I'm not dancing around any subject. I have answered every question asked truthfully, sorry it is not to your satisfaction. Iam against abortion because it is against my religious beliefs. That's a law legislated by the God I believe in. Unless it is for a medical reason, abortion is forbidden in Islam. But muslims still do it, that's where the freedom of choice comes in. Allah is the only Judge so on this life, you are free to do whatever you want, you won't answer to me or any other human being, you have to answer to Him and Him only, so do as you please. As far as the example of your cat, maybe you consider yourself on the same reasoning level than a cat , again your choice. I choose to believe that human beings are superior to animals since they have the ability to reason so how your cat behaves is irrelevant ...

You're just mad b/c your four choices for all answers asked of you are:

A. Allah
B. Allah
C. Allah
D. All of the Above

Anonymous wrote:headscarves/hijabs can be attractive on women - those with amazing facial beauty/eyes/bonestructure as it really accents that part of a woman.

but not the robes- just headscarves/hijabs. banging body/form fitting clothes/hijab combo is nice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/08/fashion/share-your-hijab-fashion-on-instagram.html