Anonymous wrote:The Christian view on this comment from one of the preceding posters:

It is true that men don’t have to cover their heads, but there is a dress code for them, as well. Men must at least be covered from the navel to the knees with loose fitting clothing. The rules for men are different because women are less likely to ogle men than the other way around. Men also shouldn't cut their beards.

According to Our Lord:

If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. Matthew 5:29-30

Here we see that it is the responsibility of each individual (male or female) to control his or her own urges. If I am "ogling" a member of the opposite sex, I need to work on myself, not expect the object of my ogling to fix him or herself.

I pray for all of us that, with the Lord's help, we can take responsibility for our own actions.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

Anonymous wrote:1. The hijab helps others to distinguish who's a believer and who's not. Why then should that matter in the eyes of God whether others know my belief system? This is essentially saying that God is fine if we judge each other. divisive? I'd say yes.

2. Women are less likely to ogle than men are. I love this. Because men have uncontrollable urges, rather than force them to control those urges, we force women to wear oppressive items of clothing. Only the woman's husband, brother, sons, grandsons and nephews can see her breasts (covered obviously).

3. Men can walk around without a shirt, yet can't wear gold and silk. (b/c gold and silk are flashy on men? draw attention to them?)

I appreciate the effort you put into your posts, but in 2014, I certainly put no faith in the "wisdom" found in an ancient text.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

Way to miss the point.

If it's so comfortable to be covered from heat to toe -- not in a t shirt -- why aren't Muslim men covered from head to toe, whether they are devout or not? Obviously no one would choose to dress that way.

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Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.

Yeah, except the only heretics murdered weren't just put to death by the spanish inquisition. It happened all over Europe. Edward the viii used it as a pretext to divorce his wife; by heheading her for heresy.

Edward VIII abdicated the throne and was succeeded by his brother, George VI, the current queen's father.

HENRY VIII divorced his first wife, Catherine of Aragon, and married Anne Boleyn, who was later beheaded for treason, as it was falsely "proven" she had cheated on him with other men (who were also beheaded). He married 4 more times.

Good lord, learn some basic history before trying to spout off about it,

Anonymous wrote:If you read the above quotation from the New Testament relating to women covering their heads, you will see that it relates specifically to women in Church. Some denominations do still encourage or require women to cover their heads in Church (some Eastern Orthodox denominations, some Protestant denominations). Covering the head in Church used to be more common (e.g., mantillas in Catholic Churches and ladies wearing hats to Church among Protestants). A very few Protestants interpret this to mean women shoukd cover their heads at all times (e.g., some denominations of Mennonites and the Amish).

Most Christians, even very conservative ones, see the head covering injunctions of St. Paul as injunctions that were made against very specific practices of the society in which he was speaking. Thus - they are not applicable today.

The whole point of Mary's pregnancy is that God entered history at a specific time and place. Mary was a woman of her time and yes she did cover her head, but that does not imply that we are required to do that. As Christians, we are not subject to the old law, but Mary was as a Jewish woman.

May God bless us all with increased understanding!

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Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.

I bet they admired the Christians who managed to wipe out whole tribes all over the Americas.

Bzzzzt. The Church advocated - and actually practiced - kindness towards the indigenous people.

Try again, Christianophobe.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

Way to miss the point.

If it's so comfortable to be covered from heat to toe -- not in a t shirt -- why aren't Muslim men covered from head to toe, whether they are devout or not? Obviously no one would choose to dress that way.

WE, Muslim women make that choice, please STOP speaking for us. I made choice to wear the hijab at the age of 25, CHOICE!!!!!! I have lived my life both uncovered and covered .I was a highly educated, independent woman living alone, woke up one day and put a scarf on my head, by my own free will, my life, my choice, please allow me that freedom. Thank you!!!