are "darn it" and "what the heck" cursing?

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Anonymous wrote:immigrant ESL parent here having a hard time stopping 7-YO DS saying "darn it" and "what the heck". I think they're cursing so should stop but he says they're not. who's right?

also what would be good replacements for them? tks.
OP what is acceptable in your language?. Also if it means anything, I've known daily church going fundamentalist types say "darnit" and "fudge" and "what the heck"
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Anonymous wrote:I'm howling over this thread. I'm so glad that fiddlesticks is being addressed!

I correct my son (almost 6) when he says fart, butt, stupid and dumb. That's about the extent of the bad words he uses, although he loves screaming, "What the heck?!?" all the time. It's a little crass, but I feel that I have bigger fish to fry with him.


So what do you call a fart? When my 2yo farts, he says "excuse me, I farted." I'm not about to make him say "I passed gas" or even worse, "I tooted!" and I'm pretty conservative about language. The same with "butt," which is a body part! What pray tell do you use instead?



Not the pp you are talking to, but my children also don't say fart/pee/doo-doo. They say pass gas/urinate/defecate.


I'm not about to make my 2yo say that. I don't think I could keep a straight face with his little squeaky voice saying "Mama, I need to defecate."

I prefer, "I used the restroom." If he needs to tell me what he did he can say pee or poop. This isn't a hospital.


Does your child have speech difficulties? If not, not seeing how saying defecate/urinate is so different from being able to say pee/doo-doo. My children learned at age 2 and it was never an issue again. When you're potty-training, saying "I used the restroom" doesn't always cut it because it's a natural thing to ask what they did if they say they need help wiping.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm howling over this thread. I'm so glad that fiddlesticks is being addressed!

I correct my son (almost 6) when he says fart, butt, stupid and dumb. That's about the extent of the bad words he uses, although he loves screaming, "What the heck?!?" all the time. It's a little crass, but I feel that I have bigger fish to fry with him.


So what do you call a fart? When my 2yo farts, he says "excuse me, I farted." I'm not about to make him say "I passed gas" or even worse, "I tooted!" and I'm pretty conservative about language. The same with "butt," which is a body part! What pray tell do you use instead?



Not the pp you are talking to, but my children also don't say fart/pee/doo-doo. They say pass gas/urinate/defecate.


I'm not about to make my 2yo say that. I don't think I could keep a straight face with his little squeaky voice saying "Mama, I need to defecate."

I prefer, "I used the restroom." If he needs to tell me what he did he can say pee or poop. This isn't a hospital.


Does your child have speech difficulties? If not, not seeing how saying defecate/urinate is so different from being able to say pee/doo-doo. My children learned at age 2 and it was never an issue again. When you're potty-training, saying "I used the restroom" doesn't always cut it because it's a natural thing to ask what they did if they say they need help wiping.


Honestly, I think hearing the words "urinate" and "defecate" sounds grosser to me than "pee pee" and "doo doo." "Pee pee" and "doo doo" sound like cute little kids' words. "Defecate" and "urinate" make me think of a large man squatting and unloading a huge smelly dump, or p!ssing like a race horse into a hot steamy pile. Yuck. No, thank you.
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Honestly, I think hearing the words "urinate" and "defecate" sounds grosser to me than "pee pee" and "doo doo." "Pee pee" and "doo doo" sound like cute little kids' words. "Defecate" and "urinate" make me think of a large man squatting and unloading a huge smelly dump, or p!ssing like a race horse into a hot steamy pile. Yuck. No, thank you.

I agree. Just a little too visual for me.
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Honestly, I think hearing the words "urinate" and "defecate" sounds grosser to me than "pee pee" and "doo doo." "Pee pee" and "doo doo" sound like cute little kids' words. "Defecate" and "urinate" make me think of a large man squatting and unloading a huge smelly dump, or p!ssing like a race horse into a hot steamy pile. Yuck. No, thank you.

I agree. Just a little too visual for me.


Yes.
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Honestly, I think hearing the words "urinate" and "defecate" sounds grosser to me than "pee pee" and "doo doo." "Pee pee" and "doo doo" sound like cute little kids' words. "Defecate" and "urinate" make me think of a large man squatting and unloading a huge smelly dump, or p!ssing like a race horse into a hot steamy pile. Yuck. No, thank you.

I agree. Just a little too visual for me.


Nothing about pee pee and doo doo is acceptable and it's definitely not cute. Is it still cute when it's said when they're no longer a toddler?

You both sound really juvenile.
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Honestly, I think hearing the words "urinate" and "defecate" sounds grosser to me than "pee pee" and "doo doo." "Pee pee" and "doo doo" sound like cute little kids' words. "Defecate" and "urinate" make me think of a large man squatting and unloading a huge smelly dump, or p!ssing like a race horse into a hot steamy pile. Yuck. No, thank you.

I agree. Just a little too visual for me.


Nothing about pee pee and doo doo is acceptable and it's definitely not cute. Is it still cute when it's said when they're no longer a toddler?

You both sound really juvenile.


Then I'll take it. I am usually one who, IRL, is construed as being serious, responsible, typical oldest child, etc., so this is a new one for me! Weee!
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Wow.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, if these are considered curse words, my family is fucked. Oh well.




Yup. We don't allow name-calling and we do our best to avoid cursing ourselves, but we mostly ignore involuntary outbursts when you injure yourself or drop something or are startled. We redirect "what the [fill in the blank]" because it's kind of rude, and we don't allow casual substitution of curse words (ass, shit, etc.).
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Anonymous wrote:I'm howling over this thread. I'm so glad that fiddlesticks is being addressed!

I correct my son (almost 6) when he says fart, butt, stupid and dumb. That's about the extent of the bad words he uses, although he loves screaming, "What the heck?!?" all the time. It's a little crass, but I feel that I have bigger fish to fry with him.


So what do you call a fart? When my 2yo farts, he says "excuse me, I farted." I'm not about to make him say "I passed gas" or even worse, "I tooted!" and I'm pretty conservative about language. The same with "butt," which is a body part! What pray tell do you use instead?



Not the pp you are talking to, but my children also don't say fart/pee/doo-doo. They say pass gas/urinate/defecate.


I'm not about to make my 2yo say that. I don't think I could keep a straight face with his little squeaky voice saying "Mama, I need to defecate."

I prefer, "I used the restroom." If he needs to tell me what he did he can say pee or poop. This isn't a hospital.


Does your child have speech difficulties? If not, not seeing how saying defecate/urinate is so different from being able to say pee/doo-doo. My children learned at age 2 and it was never an issue again. When you're potty-training, saying "I used the restroom" doesn't always cut it because it's a natural thing to ask what they did if they say they need help wiping.


Are you for real? Your point about using clinical terminology is duly noted, but real society and real people don't talk that way, so unless you want your child to be a freak, get used to "I need to pee" or "I went poo-poo." And, delightfully, later when they are older, "I need to take a monster dump" or "I need to drop the kids off at the pool."

Urinate and defecate simply do not belong in casual conversation.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm howling over this thread. I'm so glad that fiddlesticks is being addressed!

I correct my son (almost 6) when he says fart, butt, stupid and dumb. That's about the extent of the bad words he uses, although he loves screaming, "What the heck?!?" all the time. It's a little crass, but I feel that I have bigger fish to fry with him.


So what do you call a fart? When my 2yo farts, he says "excuse me, I farted." I'm not about to make him say "I passed gas" or even worse, "I tooted!" and I'm pretty conservative about language. The same with "butt," which is a body part! What pray tell do you use instead?



Not the pp you are talking to, but my children also don't say fart/pee/doo-doo. They say pass gas/urinate/defecate.


I'm not about to make my 2yo say that. I don't think I could keep a straight face with his little squeaky voice saying "Mama, I need to defecate."

I prefer, "I used the restroom." If he needs to tell me what he did he can say pee or poop. This isn't a hospital.


Does your child have speech difficulties? If not, not seeing how saying defecate/urinate is so different from being able to say pee/doo-doo. My children learned at age 2 and it was never an issue again. When you're potty-training, saying "I used the restroom" doesn't always cut it because it's a natural thing to ask what they did if they say they need help wiping.


Are you for real? Your point about using clinical terminology is duly noted, but real society and real people don't talk that way, so unless you want your child to be a freak, get used to "I need to pee" or "I went poo-poo." And, delightfully, later when they are older, "I need to take a monster dump" or "I need to drop the kids off at the pool."

Urinate and defecate simply do not belong in casual conversation.


Dumbest thing I've ever heard. Has nothing to do with wanting to sound "clinical". I was raised this way and, as such, find the use of pee/doo-doo pretty...crass. I personally say "take a piss/shit", but that's not an option for the kids, so let me stick with what works for me and you do what works for you, shall we?
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