Beauvoir Head has resigned with over a year's advance notice

Anonymous
I agree with the poster above. We knew both, and saw the officer everyday. Our interactions with him were very positive, nothing else. What happened at the home of the teacher is a complete mystery to us. To the extent that he was having issues, I certainly wish I had known. We, of course, were also at loss by the death of the teacher.
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Anonymous wrote:My DC is an alum. Sadly, when we think of Beauvoir, Eric T, the homicidal Cathedral police officer, and his ex-lover, a first grade teacher at the school come to mind. So much going on right under her nose.

End of that year, was a better time to resign. I guess the goal was to hit the 20-year retirement mark.


This is completely unfair. Our child was at the school at the time and knew all 3 individuals of these individuals. Paula handled it just fine. I know many people kept asking the school for info on these events, but these events were being investigated by the police. And police investigations take time, and, for law enforcement reasons, the school was not and should not have been kept updated on every bit of info. In terms of Eric T, B did exactly what PennState did not do. B reported it immediately to the police, and allowed the police to handle it from there.



Well...didn't she tell this same Cathedral police officer who later killed the first grade teacher to escort Eric T off the grounds? How many years has Eric been on the run since that decision was made? I guess this is what you mean by her handling it just fine.



yes, one of the many security guards hired by the Episcopal Cathedral Foundation that oversees all schools( not specifically hired by the Beauvoir Head) passed a security back ground check in that he had no criminal record in all his years as an NYC police officer. He did, unfortunately, develop an obsessive relationship with another adult he met at work. As a security officer at the school he was warm, kind and welcoming. His character, like all of ours, was not one dimensional. Had both returned to the school in the fall and a restraining order was in place by the teacher against the security guard, the school would have had to act accordingly. Time and events intervened and the school was never a part of any procedural event.

Your seizing on something that happened 4 years ago when the Head was on sabatical and bringing it up in this context, suggests that you have an AX to grind and, your choice to complain anon in a public forum in which the Head is named is cowardly. State your full name please and stand behind your words or don't post. My guess is that you will not meet this challenge. Odd then, that in your post you accuse others of not rising to theirs.


She went on sabbatical that fall. Toth was escorted out the last day of school. And no, I don't have an ax to grind. Several parents and I have attempted to talk to the head about the Toth situation and was told that it would be discussed during a public forum.

Nothing that I have stated is made up. Since you're providing PR for the school, why don't you go ahead and publish your full name, home address and telephone for any additional comments or questions on the handling of both situations.


Above poster : you quoted me along with several different posters above. I am not providing PR for the school and don't think the other parents posting think that they are either. We are just Beauvoir parents who see the situation in a balanced way. Why do you ask for my address ? You sound unhinged. Why are you waiting in wings and eager to jump on Beauvoir any chance you get ? If you don't like a school for your DC, there is always the door. Given that you persist FOR YEARS in writing these posts, suggests that you do have an agenda.
Anonymous
Actually, the security guard was fatally shot by two police officers during the standoff after he killed the teacher.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=75336
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Anonymous wrote:there is also not some huge cathedral police force. some PP made it seem like this loony was one of many. He was as a different PP said, the one with the most familiar face at Beauvoir. And to be honest, he should have known better when escorting Toth off the grounds, but was not told any details by Beauvoir.


The security guards are vetted through the PECF and assigned by them to either Beauvoir, NCS or STA. I saw the officer that you are describing everyday. He was always warm, friendly and gracious. There was no volatility, moodiness or temper there that I ever witnessed. You seem to want to reduce this man's whole life to one dimension. Life is more complex than that as are people. To their credit, the teachers were deeply saddened by both losses with many feeling badly that they did not know that the security officer that they saw everyday was struggling internally to such a degree and they were not given opportunity to help because they did not know.
Everyone reading this , please know that that alone tells you what kind of place Beauvoir is.



Did the school and community reach out to his wife and son?


I don't know what the formal approach of the school was vis a vis the family of the security officer as I am a parent, not a faculty member. Beauvoir has its own chaplain, so I imagine that that would have been the person to reach out to the officer's family.
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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the security guard was fatally shot by two police officers during the standoff after he killed the teacher.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=75336


Yes, this was in the media 4 years ago and everyone knows the sad and tragic details. Why are you waiting with baited breath to stir the pot ? These two adults met at work. Many people have other aspects to their lives beyond where they work. Had the school been asked to honor a restraining order and failed to and had she been shot on school property then you might have some grounds. This tragedy happened in the last week of summer before the school year started. It happened 30 miles from the school. THe teacher's brother was the Atty General of MD at the time. If the school was culpable in any way, it would have been made very public . It was a tragedy, period. Let the families have some peace and don't dredge this up for your own selfish motives.
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Wow. I cannot believe some of the Beauvoir supporters on this site who would defame X on this Board. I am probably one of the X's as I know I have been less supportive of the school and its leadership, but I would also never stoop so low as to blame the victims of the pedophile no matter what (nor have I ever blamed the admin, but I do believe they could/should have done things differently. blame is with Toth himself!). Just remember that there are parents who have to live every single day of their lives knowing that their sons/daughters (ok daughters not so much) have been forever affected by interaction with such a manipulative creep, knowing that they paid for this privilege in more ways than one.

Don't ever judge another parent until you've walked in their shoes. I know that there are many families affected by this tragedy -- not just 1 or 2. He was there for 3 years and had relationships with many kids from those 3 years. There are several mothers who were close to him -- but because he ingratiated himself into their lives, invited himself over, helped their kids, babysat for them on weekends, tutored their kids, coached their kids and more. Some of us still talk to each other so I know for sure that there are multiple families who feel the same way we do. It is a shame, and there are still kids who are sad and confused and afraid.

My beef with the admin of the school is the lack of follow up. It is laughable to me that one of you could post such venomous untrue things and make it seem like there is one crazy family out there that hates the school and has distorted the truth. There isn't.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I cannot believe some of the Beauvoir supporters on this site who would defame X on this Board. I am probably one of the X's as I know I have been less supportive of the school and its leadership, but I would also never stoop so low as to blame the victims of the pedophile no matter what (nor have I ever blamed the admin, but I do believe they could/should have done things differently. blame is with Toth himself!).


I have to say that this is pretty rich. I removed at least two of your posts in an attempt to keep this thread focused narrowing on the retirement of the Beauvoir head. For that, I suffered your castigations including obscene insinuations. Like a petulant child, you kept trying until you finally got your way. Now, all of a sudden you don't like the idea that an anonymous poster might defame a named individual (or, in this case, not even named). A few pages back you wrote that I was being "grossly unjust". Grossly unjust! Well, I guess now we have justice. How do you like it?

Anonymous
Although Paula cannot be replaced, it is important that the board's choice to lead its search for a new head be inclusive of, and kind, warm and welcoming to, everyone in the community. Or, if we're lucky, Paula will call the shots. Time will tell, but the stakes are high.
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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the security guard was fatally shot by two police officers during the standoff after he killed the teacher.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=75336


Yes, this was in the media 4 years ago and everyone knows the sad and tragic details. Why are you waiting with baited breath to stir the pot ? These two adults met at work. Many people have other aspects to their lives beyond where they work. Had the school been asked to honor a restraining order and failed to and had she been shot on school property then you might have some grounds. This tragedy happened in the last week of summer before the school year started. It happened 30 miles from the school. THe teacher's brother was the Atty General of MD at the time. If the school was culpable in any way, it would have been made very public . It was a tragedy, period. Let the families have some peace and don't dredge this up for your own selfish motives.


Actually, I saw this clip many years ago as well. Its statement of facts simply does not make sense. The issue here is that no thorough investigation was done. The clip was taken only a few days after the incident. The security guard had no one to speak up for him. He had/has one teenage son, and no spouse. I continue to question whether the MC police officers, one of whom was relatively young to my recollection, allowed things to get out of hand. Not intentionally, of course. But, with multiple people holding guns, and with tempers flaring, the situation easily could have gotten out of hand. I simply do not believe that the facts happened the way the MC police presented them. They had every reason (and ability here) to keep any mishaps quite.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually, the security guard was fatally shot by two police officers during the standoff after he killed the teacher.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=75336


Yes, this was in the media 4 years ago and everyone knows the sad and tragic details. Why are you waiting with baited breath to stir the pot ? These two adults met at work. Many people have other aspects to their lives beyond where they work. Had the school been asked to honor a restraining order and failed to and had she been shot on school property then you might have some grounds. This tragedy happened in the last week of summer before the school year started. It happened 30 miles from the school. THe teacher's brother was the Atty General of MD at the time. If the school was culpable in any way, it would have been made very public . It was a tragedy, period. Let the families have some peace and don't dredge this up for your own selfish motives.


Actually, I saw this clip many years ago as well. Its statement of facts simply does not make sense. The issue here is that no thorough investigation was done. The clip was taken only a few days after the incident. The security guard had no one to speak up for him. He had/has one teenage son, and no spouse. I continue to question whether the MC police officers, one of whom was relatively young to my recollection, allowed things to get out of hand. Not intentionally, of course. But, with multiple people holding guns, and with tempers flaring, the situation easily could have gotten out of hand. I simply do not believe that the facts happened the way the MC police presented them. They had every reason (and ability here) to keep any mishaps quite.


Michael was living with his wife and teenage son. Clearly the teacher was afraid as she asked neighbors to call the police if they spotted him in the neighborhood. I remember an interview soon afterwards with her neighbor sharing that Cathy was quite afraid of him.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually, the security guard was fatally shot by two police officers during the standoff after he killed the teacher.

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=75336


Yes, this was in the media 4 years ago and everyone knows the sad and tragic details. Why are you waiting with baited breath to stir the pot ? These two adults met at work. Many people have other aspects to their lives beyond where they work. Had the school been asked to honor a restraining order and failed to and had she been shot on school property then you might have some grounds. This tragedy happened in the last week of summer before the school year started. It happened 30 miles from the school. THe teacher's brother was the Atty General of MD at the time. If the school was culpable in any way, it would have been made very public . It was a tragedy, period. Let the families have some peace and don't dredge this up for your own selfish motives.


Sorry, my mistake: I meant to say Lt. Governor of MD, not Atty General. The gist is same however in that, if the school had been at fault in even the smallest respect, there would have been hell to pay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow. I cannot believe some of the Beauvoir supporters on this site who would defame X on this Board. I am probably one of the X's as I know I have been less supportive of the school and its leadership, but I would also never stoop so low as to blame the victims of the pedophile no matter what (nor have I ever blamed the admin, but I do believe they could/should have done things differently. blame is with Toth himself!). Just remember that there are parents who have to live every single day of their lives knowing that their sons/daughters (ok daughters not so much) have been forever affected by interaction with such a manipulative creep, knowing that they paid for this privilege in more ways than one.

Don't ever judge another parent until you've walked in their shoes. I know that there are many families affected by this tragedy -- not just 1 or 2. He was there for 3 years and had relationships with many kids from those 3 years. There are several mothers who were close to him -- but because he ingratiated himself into their lives, invited himself over, helped their kids, babysat for them on weekends, tutored their kids, coached their kids and more. Some of us still talk to each other so I know for sure that there are multiple families who feel the same way we do. It is a shame, and there are still kids who are sad and confused and afraid.

My beef with the admin of the school is the lack of follow up. It is laughable to me that one of you could post such venomous untrue things and make it seem like there is one crazy family out there that hates the school and has distorted the truth. There isn't.



I see a pattern in your post that perhaps you need to reflect on: you state above that you allowed this man into your home even though he invited himself, that you allowed him to babysit, and allowed him to ingratiate himself. All of these things happened in YOUR home after school hours correct? Where were you? This was your home and your children, correct ? Where was your sense of boundaries ? It seems to me that you did not set any or perhaps you were asleep at the wheel ? You don't seem to be willing to take a hard look at how you allowed this person unfettered access to your child, yet you castigate the Head of school for not catching what you missed as a parent. She was supposed to know what was going on in your home and do your job for you, I suppose . Why ? "because I pay all that money" . Protecting your child is your primary responsibility above every other thing in your life: career, relationship with spouse, personal needs, your child's safety comes first. So, where were you? All to happy to pawn your kid off on some one else, I imagine, and now all to eager to blame another for that poor judgement as a parent.

Here is what I think: if a male teacher showed up on my door step looking for my son , having invited himself over, the hair would stand up on the back of my neck and I would step outside, close the door ,look him right in the eye and tell him that he was intruding and that I thought it was inappropriate. I would then go inside and look him up on the sex offender registry, paying my $45 fee or whatever for a full back ground check. At 9AM the next day, I would place a call to the school, followed by a letter highlighting my concerns. Unless you did this and got nowhere, you should look in the mirror before you are so quick to cast blame.

He had no record. It is not like the school didn't check his back ground AND not enough people spoke up. He was a sick person, but too many kids in this town have parents who farm out their child rearing to a whole host of "hired help" instead of paying more attention.
Anonymous
The first time I met Eric Toth, I thought he was weird. Never expected a pedophile to be on the staff at sunny, happy Beauvoir. Silly me, I trusted the administrative staff. I know several families who had relationships with teachers for summer tutoring and who even hired the after-school prog workers for babysitting.

Fortunately, my son wasn't assigned to his 3rd grade class. PPs who sons were exposed to this creep, my heart goes out to you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The first time I met Eric Toth, I thought he was weird. Never expected a pedophile to be on the staff at sunny, happy Beauvoir. Silly me, I trusted the administrative staff. I know several families who had relationships with teachers for summer tutoring and who even hired the after-school prog workers for babysitting.

Fortunately, my son wasn't assigned to his 3rd grade class. PPs who sons were exposed to this creep, my heart goes out to you.



Well, all of above is inappropriate. These are employees of the school who are paid to work with your kids during school hours. Any tutoring should be done on school property with an open door if it is a male teacher. No, you should not ask a teacher to babysit your kid. If alone for the fact that you become their employer and then how do they then objectively grade your child. That is a conflict of interest. As many teachers are young and poor and most private school parents are well off, asking a school employee to babysit is a messed up power dynamic as well. Inappropriate all around. Bottom line, ANY time any one is far too interested in your kid, you need to wake up. It might not be because little john is sooooo special, after all. Many pedophiles prey on a parent's vanity over their child, or the parent's narcissism. They do target certain kids for a reason.
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Anonymous wrote:The first time I met Eric Toth, I thought he was weird. Never expected a pedophile to be on the staff at sunny, happy Beauvoir. Silly me, I trusted the administrative staff. I know several families who had relationships with teachers for summer tutoring and who even hired the after-school prog workers for babysitting.

Fortunately, my son wasn't assigned to his 3rd grade class. PPs who sons were exposed to this creep, my heart goes out to you.



Well, all of above is inappropriate. These are employees of the school who are paid to work with your kids during school hours. Any tutoring should be done on school property with an open door if it is a male teacher. No, you should not ask a teacher to babysit your kid. If alone for the fact that you become their employer and then how do they then objectively grade your child. That is a conflict of interest. As many teachers are young and poor and most private school parents are well off, asking a school employee to babysit is a messed up power dynamic as well. Inappropriate all around. Bottom line, ANY time any one is far too interested in your kid, you need to wake up. It might not be because little john is sooooo special, after all. Many pedophiles prey on a parent's vanity over their child, or the parent's narcissism. They do target certain kids for a reason.


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