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Anonymous wrote:I think homosexuality is, by definition, not normal. In other words it is NOT the norm. It doesn't mean we should treat them unfairly, but we shouldn't hold them up as an ideal either. Allowing them to get married legitimizes it too much in my opinion. The jury is still out on whether it is a choice, genetic, a mental illness or any number of other possibilities - so until the science is more settled, I'd rather err on the side of caution. Show me the "gay gene" and I'd be inclined to change my mind.

You know I've been saying that for years about left-handed people. Giving them left-handed scissors and left-handed desks just legitimizes them too much in my opinion. It's wrong that right-handed society should have to make any accommodations to left-handed people, especially since we know they can all learn to write with their right hand.

Actually, very few major accommodations are given to left-handed people. Ever see a car for lefties being driven in the USA?

Irrelevant analogy. Ever see a car for righties in the UK?

Silly me. I thought we were talking about unfairness and gay marriages as both relate to the USA.

Let me spell it out for you. The point is that the "handedness" of cars is irrelevant. It has to do do with which side of the road you drive on.

It's certainly relevant as regards lefties in the USA; there's only one choice for driving. We're not talking about England, Scotland, etc. here.

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Anonymous wrote:I think homosexuality is, by definition, not normal. In other words it is NOT the norm. It doesn't mean we should treat them unfairly, but we shouldn't hold them up as an ideal either. Allowing them to get married legitimizes it too much in my opinion. The jury is still out on whether it is a choice, genetic, a mental illness or any number of other possibilities - so until the science is more settled, I'd rather err on the side of caution. Show me the "gay gene" and I'd be inclined to change my mind.

You know I've been saying that for years about left-handed people. Giving them left-handed scissors and left-handed desks just legitimizes them too much in my opinion. It's wrong that right-handed society should have to make any accommodations to left-handed people, especially since we know they can all learn to write with their right hand.

Actually, very few major accommodations are given to left-handed people. Ever see a car for lefties being driven in the USA?

Irrelevant analogy. Ever see a car for righties in the UK?

Silly me. I thought we were talking about unfairness and gay marriages as both relate to the USA.

Let me spell it out for you. The point is that the "handedness" of cars is irrelevant. It has to do do with which side of the road you drive on.

It's certainly relevant as regards lefties in the USA; there's only one choice for driving. We're not talking about England, Scotland, etc. here.

Okay you just don't get that this is not an adequate analogy. I see that.

Anonymous wrote:I think homosexuality is, by definition, not normal. In other words it is NOT the norm. It doesn't mean we should treat them unfairly, but we shouldn't hold them up as an ideal either. Allowing them to get married legitimizes it too much in my opinion. The jury is still out on whether it is a choice, genetic, a mental illness or any number of other possibilities - so until the science is more settled, I'd rather err on the side of caution. Show me the "gay gene" and I'd be inclined to change my mind.

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Anonymous wrote:I think homosexuality is, by definition, not normal. In other words it is NOT the norm. It doesn't mean we should treat them unfairly, but we shouldn't hold them up as an ideal either. Allowing them to get married legitimizes it too much in my opinion. The jury is still out on whether it is a choice, genetic, a mental illness or any number of other possibilities - so until the science is more settled, I'd rather err on the side of caution. Show me the "gay gene" and I'd be inclined to change my mind.

You know I've been saying that for years about left-handed people. Giving them left-handed scissors and left-handed desks just legitimizes them too much in my opinion. It's wrong that right-handed society should have to make any accommodations to left-handed people, especially since we know they can all learn to write with their right hand.

Actually, very few major accommodations are given to left-handed people. Ever see a car for lefties being driven in the USA?

Irrelevant analogy. Ever see a car for righties in the UK?

Silly me. I thought we were talking about unfairness and gay marriages as both relate to the USA.

Let me spell it out for you. The point is that the "handedness" of cars is irrelevant. It has to do do with which side of the road you drive on.

It's certainly relevant as regards lefties in the USA; there's only one choice for driving. We're not talking about England, Scotland, etc. here.

Okay you just don't get that this is not an adequate analogy. I see that.

Btw, I do get your point--nicely sarcastic about the lefties. Quite clever. I really was just trying to give a little aside that lefties (not that there's true discrimination there) don't have it so easy. :0)

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Anonymous wrote:I think homosexuality is, by definition, not normal. In other words it is NOT the norm. It doesn't mean we should treat them unfairly, but we shouldn't hold them up as an ideal either. Allowing them to get married legitimizes it too much in my opinion. The jury is still out on whether it is a choice, genetic, a mental illness or any number of other possibilities - so until the science is more settled, I'd rather err on the side of caution. Show me the "gay gene" and I'd be inclined to change my mind.

You know I've been saying that for years about left-handed people. Giving them left-handed scissors and left-handed desks just legitimizes them too much in my opinion. It's wrong that right-handed society should have to make any accommodations to left-handed people, especially since we know they can all learn to write with their right hand.

Actually, very few major accommodations are given to left-handed people. Ever see a car for lefties being driven in the USA?

Irrelevant analogy. Ever see a car for righties in the UK?

Silly me. I thought we were talking about unfairness and gay marriages as both relate to the USA.

Let me spell it out for you. The point is that the "handedness" of cars is irrelevant. It has to do do with which side of the road you drive on.

It's certainly relevant as regards lefties in the USA; there's only one choice for driving. We're not talking about England, Scotland, etc. here.

Okay you just don't get that this is not an adequate analogy. I see that.

Btw, I do get your point--nicely sarcastic about the lefties. Quite clever. I really was just trying to give a little aside that lefties (not that there's true discrimination there) don't have it so easy. :0)

Really. You think that a scarcity of left handed scissors is the same as not being able to talk to a doctor about your dying spouse or lacking marital inheritance.

You must be purposefully trying not to get what I'm saying. I stated it's not true discrimination against lefties--just a little aside. Oh, well. Hope you have a good day.




The only thing that hurts being a lefty is that shell casings eject in your face when you fire a gun. Other than that, it's just a matter of finding a set of lefty golf clubs and scissors and learning not to smear ink as you write.

Oh, the one other thing that sucks is when people try to force you to be a right hander. That sucks. Don't try to force someone to be straight, either.

Anonymous wrote:Show me the hetero gene, otherwise I am not convinced your straightness is [not] a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Show me the hetero gene, otherwise I am not convinced your straightness is [not] a choice.

I'd like to follow up on that one. Comparing the way society treats gays and straights, it's clear that the only one it makes sense to choose is straight. And there are plenty of examples of gays who choose to be straight (at least in public). It happens at all levels in society, but entertainment and politics are the most visible, going back to Rock Hudson and probably many earlier actors, and recently in politics, Republican Ken Mehlman (and even more recently anti-gay Brooklyn Democrat Carl Kruger http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/anti-gay-state-senators-secret-gay-life-is-revealed-in-bribery-indictment.php).

Can anyone give an example of a straight guy who thought to himself "Gosh, it sure would be fun to go out and get beaten up as a fag!"

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Anonymous wrote:Show me the hetero gene, otherwise I am not convinced your straightness is [not] a choice.

I'd like to follow up on that one. Comparing the way society treats gays and straights, it's clear that the only one it makes sense to choose is straight. And there are plenty of examples of gays who choose to be straight (at least in public). It happens at all levels in society, but entertainment and politics are the most visible, going back to Rock Hudson and probably many earlier actors, and recently in politics, Republican Ken Mehlman (and even more recently anti-gay Brooklyn Democrat Carl Kruger http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/anti-gay-state-senators-secret-gay-life-is-revealed-in-bribery-indictment.php).

Can anyone give an example of a straight guy who thought to himself "Gosh, it sure would be fun to go out and get beaten up as a fag!"

Pedophiles are the same way. Even though society looks down on them and they get beat up in prison they cannot help themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Show me the hetero gene, otherwise I am not convinced your straightness is [not] a choice.

I'd like to follow up on that one. Comparing the way society treats gays and straights, it's clear that the only one it makes sense to choose is straight. And there are plenty of examples of gays who choose to be straight (at least in public). It happens at all levels in society, but entertainment and politics are the most visible, going back to Rock Hudson and probably many earlier actors, and recently in politics, Republican Ken Mehlman (and even more recently anti-gay Brooklyn Democrat Carl Kruger http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/anti-gay-state-senators-secret-gay-life-is-revealed-in-bribery-indictment.php).

Can anyone give an example of a straight guy who thought to himself "Gosh, it sure would be fun to go out and get beaten up as a fag!"

Pedophiles are the same way. Even though society looks down on them and they get beat up in prison they cannot help themselves.