Zohran Mamdani...

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What aggravates me is state controlled stores have been tried again and again.

But some thick-headed people ignore it unless they see it for themselves. It's a learning disability and everyone has to suffer because of their idiocy.
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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani’s economic populism isn’t radical - it’s reactive.

After decades of corporate greed, stagnant wages, and soaring costs of housing, food, and everything else, his socialism is a direct response to a broken system that's failed the majority of Americans.


This is true. However, his reactionary policies won't address the causes of these bad economic outcomes but will instead make them worse.


Works just fine in many other countries. NYC is practically its own small country, so it’s a great place to pilot it in the US.


In which country does it work just fine?


Any democratic socialist country works to make things better for its population, and they run many public-private partnerships, as would be the case here.

This is not a radical idea, but it seems that some people have really been conditioned to hate the idea of people getting benefits from their tax money. Pretty weird if you ask me.

https://theweek.com/politics/mamdani-government-run-grocery-stores

https://www.modernretail.co/operations/unpacked-the-history-of-city-owned-grocery-stores-and-how-public-private-partnerships-have-worked-in-other-markets/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2025/06/25/zohran-mamdanis-most-surprising-proposals-from-city-owned-grocery-stores-to-arresting-netanyahu/

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/mamdani-city-run-groceries


LOL



Again, why is there no food in this taxpayer funded grocery store??

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Anonymous wrote:Capitalism not done right is the problem. Anything extreme doesn’t work. Why can’t people accept there are programs called socialist programs that are necessary and working alongside non corrupt capitalism would work.

Capitalism has a huge problem though, it’s greed and corruption. And capitalists are the first ones that want to eliminate regulations to keep corruption and greed in check.

Once the most corrupt broken administration leaves office maybe the country two can work together. Just like the most successful countries in the world


The institutions that make this a first world civilized nation are all socialist (public schools, police, fire departments, city water departments, libraries, public parks, even public restrooms).

The US is not a capitalist country and hasn’t been for over a century now. A real capitalist country is not one where most people would want to live


True there are no 100% capitalistic countries anymore than there are 100% communist countries. However the US is unbalanced. We have foreign oligarchs and billionaires with too much power and too much money and too many people worshiping them.
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Anonymous wrote:Capitalism not done right is the problem. Anything extreme doesn’t work. Why can’t people accept there are programs called socialist programs that are necessary and working alongside non corrupt capitalism would work.

Capitalism has a huge problem though, it’s greed and corruption. And capitalists are the first ones that want to eliminate regulations to keep corruption and greed in check.

Once the most corrupt broken administration leaves office maybe the country two can work together. Just like the most successful countries in the world


The institutions that make this a first world civilized nation are all socialist (public schools, police, fire departments, city water departments, libraries, public parks, even public restrooms).

The US is not a capitalist country and hasn’t been for over a century now. A real capitalist country is not one where most people would want to live


True there are no 100% capitalistic countries anymore than there are 100% communist countries. However the US is unbalanced. We have foreign oligarchs and billionaires with too much power and too much money and too many people worshiping them.

Ban foreigners from buying up multiple properties, especially massive farm acres.
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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani only won the primary because of younger voters - most of whom are well-off and have never known a day of hard work in their lives. This should be fun to watch.
That's what you tell yourself. But also because of people like me and my peers. We're all GenX. Did you think only youngsters voted for him? You would be wrong.


Not PP: This NYC-residing GenXer did NOT rank Mamdani and will NOT be voting for him in the fall. I want to vote for a millennial socialist like a hole in the head. Probably going to write in Adrienne Adams.


Can you explain your dramatics concerning Mamdani?


I’m actually surprised Gen X is so against socialism. I guess they don’t mind that Social security will end for sure with them despite a lifetime of paying taxes


We're not against policies that help other people. We just hate phony virtue signalers like these so-called socialists.


Right. I am totally fine with losing my safety net as long as I’m not governed by some guy who is too virtuous seeming bc it MUST be fake!!! And if he checked the wrong box on his college app at 17 yo, forget it! I will not tolerate a candidate like that, even if he does care about working class and middle class issues. No thanks!! /s


If I am proven wrong eventually, I'll admit it. However, in the meantime I recommend that you prepare yourself for the possibility of being disappointed. No sarcasm.


Proven wrong about what?

And if you hate Mamdani, tell us what’s good about the other candidates?



That he's not up to the job.

I don't hate Mamdani. I just don't think that making engaging videos qualifies someone to be Mayor or indicates that he will be successful at the job.


This is how we keep ending up with 80 year old presidents. Then they elected the least qualified one in history to do it again.

Fresh blood is needed.


DP.

As are fresh ideas. Mandani just bundled a bunch of old, failed ideas in a slick Gen Z hipster-beard and social media package.

He knows his supporters have never seen a taxpayer funded government grocery store, so he plays them for stupid.
Anonymous
I’ve known New Yorkers, especially younger transplants, who never been to a grocery store. They just survive off coffee, deli sandwiches, hot dogs, and pizza. They will go to 100 bars over a year in Ny but only go to a grocery store once if at all
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Anonymous wrote:I’ve known New Yorkers, especially younger transplants, who never been to a grocery store. They just survive off coffee, deli sandwiches, hot dogs, and pizza. They will go to 100 bars over a year in Ny but only go to a grocery store once if at all


Not sure how that contributes to the discussion but ok
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* lies
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Why exactly does he want taxpayer funded grocery stores?
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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani’s economic populism isn’t radical - it’s reactive.

After decades of corporate greed, stagnant wages, and soaring costs of housing, food, and everything else, his socialism is a direct response to a broken system that's failed the majority of Americans.


This is true. However, his reactionary policies won't address the causes of these bad economic outcomes but will instead make them worse.


Works just fine in many other countries. NYC is practically its own small country, so it’s a great place to pilot it in the US.


In which country does it work just fine?


Any democratic socialist country works to make things better for its population, and they run many public-private partnerships, as would be the case here.

This is not a radical idea, but it seems that some people have really been conditioned to hate the idea of people getting benefits from their tax money. Pretty weird if you ask me.

https://theweek.com/politics/mamdani-government-run-grocery-stores

https://www.modernretail.co/operations/unpacked-the-history-of-city-owned-grocery-stores-and-how-public-private-partnerships-have-worked-in-other-markets/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2025/06/25/zohran-mamdanis-most-surprising-proposals-from-city-owned-grocery-stores-to-arresting-netanyahu/

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/mamdani-city-run-groceries


LOL


WHY do Mamdani supporters want government owned empty grocery stores for poor people?


The same reason they hold most of their political views: they feel good "doing something" for poor people. The fact that the policies don't help, or often make it worse, is irrelevant. As long as the person gets a dopamine hit from "doing something," they will always vote for more "doing something."

In this thread, we have a discussion showing that government-run grocery stores don't have a great track record. When modern evidence is presented, one poster even notes it's not radical if they are doing it in KC. The effectiveness could not be less relevant. Should be a real eye-opener for defenders of universal suffrage.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mamdani’s economic populism isn’t radical - it’s reactive.

After decades of corporate greed, stagnant wages, and soaring costs of housing, food, and everything else, his socialism is a direct response to a broken system that's failed the majority of Americans.


This is true. However, his reactionary policies won't address the causes of these bad economic outcomes but will instead make them worse.


Works just fine in many other countries. NYC is practically its own small country, so it’s a great place to pilot it in the US.


In which country does it work just fine?


Any democratic socialist country works to make things better for its population, and they run many public-private partnerships, as would be the case here.

This is not a radical idea, but it seems that some people have really been conditioned to hate the idea of people getting benefits from their tax money. Pretty weird if you ask me.

https://theweek.com/politics/mamdani-government-run-grocery-stores

https://www.modernretail.co/operations/unpacked-the-history-of-city-owned-grocery-stores-and-how-public-private-partnerships-have-worked-in-other-markets/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2025/06/25/zohran-mamdanis-most-surprising-proposals-from-city-owned-grocery-stores-to-arresting-netanyahu/

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/mamdani-city-run-groceries


LOL



Again, why is there no food in this taxpayer funded grocery store??



There appears to be multiple problems with that project. First and foremost, despite much of the narrative around the store, it was not actually built to fill a food desert. Rather, the city bought the entire shopping center and was trying to revitalize it. The grocery store was only one component. The area was not actually a food desert. The Washington Post has an article that repeats the claim that the area is a food desert while simultaneously including multiple pictures of a nearby for-profit grocery store:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/07/18/city-owned-grocery-stores-crime-funding/

The store was first run by a private grocer and things were fine. Then, management was turned over to a non-profit and things turned bad. The non-profit is blaming the pandemic. Regardless of who is to blame for the grocery store specifically, it seems that entire development is doing poorly.

It is not unusual for cities to attempt to revitalize neighborhoods through support for shopping centers. DC has done that in the case of Skyland Town Center, for instance. The District initially hoped that project would be anchored by Walmart, but Walmart backed out after using the project as an incentive to defeat a minimum wage increase. The District later used significant economic incentives to attract Lidl to the location. But that was a true food desert.

The lesson of Kansas City is that redevelopment of an entire shopping center needs more than a grocery store to succeed and that a grocery store might not succeed in the midst of a failed shopping center. Certainly good lessons for other publicly-owned grocery stores, but hardly a verdict on the entire idea.
Anonymous
In the past decade, I have employed a lot of fresh graduates from top universities. Many are now in their 30s and not one has gotten married or had a child. I think only one was able to purchase a home. These are all statistics one cannot ignore and are why Mamdani is magnetic to the youth.
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Anonymous wrote:What aggravates me is state controlled stores have been tried again and again.

But some thick-headed people ignore it unless they see it for themselves. It's a learning disability and everyone has to suffer because of their idiocy.


There's no proposal to take over the existing supermarkets. Merely to create a few cheaper alternatives.

You want to unironically talk about being thick-headed and ignorant and idiocy and learning disabilities yet you seem to have missed that key nuance and distinction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In the past decade, I have employed a lot of fresh graduates from top universities. Many are now in their 30s and not one has gotten married or had a child. I think only one was able to purchase a home. These are all statistics one cannot ignore and are why Mamdani is magnetic to the youth.

Why didn’t you pay them more?
Because if they get married and have children, they’ll have less time/energy for you.
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Anonymous wrote:What aggravates me is state controlled stores have been tried again and again.

But some thick-headed people ignore it unless they see it for themselves. It's a learning disability and everyone has to suffer because of their idiocy.


There's no proposal to take over the existing supermarkets. Merely to create a few cheaper alternatives.

You want to unironically talk about being thick-headed and ignorant and idiocy and learning disabilities yet you seem to have missed that key nuance and distinction.


The maga cultists are not exactly sharp.
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